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How do you feel about reparations?????

 
 
mt774
 
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Reply Thu 27 Oct, 2011 09:20 am
“Let's look at President Sukarno in Indonesia. He was a man who called all African and Asian nations, and nations of color together in the Bandung Conference of 1955, to discuss the wickedness of the West against the poorer and weaker nations of the Earth. How many hundreds and thousands of lives when Sukarno was overthrown in a CIA-sponsored coup? Estimates range from between 250,000 to 500,000 deaths!” Minister Farrakhan continued. “Assassination plots against Fidel Castro, Patrice Lumumba, Papa Doc Duvalier of Haiti, are you a ‘new and better' France, a ‘new and better' England, a ‘new and better' Germany, a ‘new and better' Italy, and a ‘new and better'America, that you could sentence another man to death with your history written in the blood of Black, Brown, Red, Yellow, and the blood of your own Caucasian people? This is why the Bible calls you the blood shedder.”

^^^See

This is why Farrakhan speaks that truth.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 27 Oct, 2011 09:42 am
@mt774,
God, what a bullshit artist.

Many of the Jews who owned the homes, the apartments in the black community, we considered them bloodsuckers because they took from our community and built their community but didn't offer anything back to our community.

The Jews don't like Farrakhan, so they call me Hitler. Well, that's a good name. Hitler was a very great man.

Those are examples of Farrakhan's attitude toward Jews. This is an example of the quality of his judgement:

Qaddafi is hated because he is the leader of a small country that is rich, but he uses his money to finance liberation struggles.

Oh yeah, the Libyans themselves really admired Qaddafi.

Source

This is another example of his attitude toward the Jews, taken from a video of him speaking publicly:

"Do you know some of these satanic Jews have taken over BET? They got BET. They got our hair product people. They got Motown. Everything that we built, THEY got it. But the mind of Satan now is running the record industry. Running the movie industry. Running television."

As reported in the New York Times:

Toward the end of that portion of his speech that was recorded, Mr. Farrakhan said: "Now that nation called Israel never has had any peace in 40 years and she will never have any peace because there can be no peace structured on injustice, thievery, lying and deceit and using the name of God to shield your dirty religion under His holy and righteous name."


This is the complete record of his remarks about Hitler, which was broadcast and recorded by a radio station in Chicago:

So I said to the members of the press, 'Why won't you go and look into what we are saying about the threats on Reverend Jackson's life?' Here the Jews don't like Farrakhan and so they call me 'Hitler'. Well that's a good name. Hitler was a very great man. He wasn't great for me as a Black man but he was a great German and he rose Germany up from the ashes of her defeat by the united force of all of Europe and America after the First World War. Yet Hitler took Germany from the ashes and rose her up and made her the greatest fighting machine of the twentieth century, brothers and sisters, and even though Europe and America had deciphered the code that Hitler was using to speak to his chiefs of staff, they still had trouble defeating Hitler even after knowing his plans in advance. Now I'm not proud of Hitler's evil toward Jewish people, but that's a matter of record. He rose Germany up from nothing. Well, in a sense you could say there is a similarity in that we are rising our people up from nothing, but don't compare me with your wicked killers.

Louis Farrakhan has blamed the Jews for the slave trade--a quick search will yield several videos of him saying just that. In fact, the West African slave trade was started by Muslims, but you'll never hear Farrakhan say that.

You admire Farrakhan because, with his "Satanic Jews" and "White devils" rhetoric, he says just exactly what you believe yourself.

Racist Pig.
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djjd62
 
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Reply Thu 27 Oct, 2011 09:59 am
@mt774,
mt774 wrote:
Well, then i can just label Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Michael Savage, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly and Mike Huckabee as racist white militants.


the other crap you say aside, you're right on with this line (i'd add the talking heads from all political spectrums though)
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mt774
 
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Reply Thu 27 Oct, 2011 10:11 am
Many of the Jews who owned the homes, the apartments in the black community, we considered them bloodsuckers because they took from our community and built their community but didn't offer anything back to our community.

setanta, this is not racist this is the truth but i wouldn't expect your understanding due to never living in the black impoverished community.
and many blacks have said that about asians too, (Ice Cube - Black Korea) doesn't mean they despise asians.

prove him wrong then.

and i don't despise Jews because Roman Polanski is one of my favorite directors. Tell me, if i despised those Jews; why i would watch Polanski movies? hahaha
Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 27 Oct, 2011 10:19 am
@mt774,
So other forms of racism justify that form of racism? You're one sick ****. Farrakhan's remarks are not the truth, and your claim that they are is just further evidence that you're a racist.

That crap about Roman Polanski is the equivalent of racists who say "some of my best friends are black." A lot of people were glad to see Jackie Robinson play ball for the Brooklyn Dodgers, but that didn't mean they wanted him to sit at the front of the bus, or eat in their restaurants or stay in their hotels.

You are a sick racist ****, and you deserve the worst comments anyone can make about you.
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djjd62
 
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Reply Thu 27 Oct, 2011 10:21 am
@mt774,
mt774 wrote:
if i despised those Jews; why i would watch Polanski movies? hahaha


maybe you like pedophiles
mt774
 
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Reply Thu 27 Oct, 2011 10:38 am
Setanta, so why can't you prove what Farrakhan says is wrong then?

Is he lying about those zionists?

you call me racist, i call you racist for shooting down any black man who tries to advance his people. Lawdy, i bet u hated the black panthers too?

because he said some racist things in his past it means we can't agree when he talks on those current issues?
mt774
 
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Reply Thu 27 Oct, 2011 10:40 am
@djjd62,
djjd62 wrote:

mt774 wrote:
if i despised those Jews; why i would watch Polanski movies? hahaha


maybe you like pedophiles

I do not think of Polanski as pedophile due to girl agreeing to that sex act.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 27 Oct, 2011 11:51 am
@mt774,
What an idiot. I don't have to prove anybody wrong, and i'm not going to waste my time. Anyone who makes a claim, especially a bizarre and idiotic claim like that one, has the burden of proof, no one has to disprove it.

Where i grew up, there weren't any Jews within a hundred miles, maybe more. Who do you and your asshole buddy Farrakhan allege was renting to them, exploiting them? He's not talking about "current issues," he's trading in fairy tales, hateful racist lies.

Calling Judaism a gutter religion, making idiotic claims about landlords, motion picture and television producers, recording companies--those have nothing to do with Zionism. Calling Jews Satanists has nothing to do with Zionism.

You claim i've shot black people? Liar, racist pig-******. You're pathetic and disgusting.
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mt774
 
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Reply Thu 27 Oct, 2011 12:13 pm
Nevermind. My meaning is you like to shoot down the OPINIONS and CHARACTER of black commentators who try to enlighten their own people, not LITERALLY shoot black people hahaha

Well, you can't understand what Farrakhan means about sucking blood from the communities unless you have lived in the communities he is speaking of.
Rockhead
 
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Reply Thu 27 Oct, 2011 12:14 pm
@mt774,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3FnpaWQJO0
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Thu 27 Oct, 2011 03:12 pm
@mt774,
The "blood sucking" metaphor is just stupid.

Presumably the people in the black communities in which Jewish and Korean storeowners do business obtain some value from the money ("blood") they are spending. If not, why are they spending it? Are Jewish and Korean vampires glamoring the locals and making them give up their money for nothing in return?

While you can make a case that it might be good for business and their self-interest, if Korean and Jewish storeowners invested some of their profit in the health of the communities in which they operate, what legal or moral obligation are they under to do so?

The answer is simple: None.

They pay taxes which, theoretically, will find their way into the black communities. If you don't think they are, you have a problem with your governments, not the storeowners.

Why should they pay an additional premium for the privilege of providing the community with goods and services it needs and desires?

Are you and Farrakhan suggesting the Jewish and Korean shop owners are somehow taking advantage of the black communities and price gouging or selling defective goods?

The fact of the matter is that there is a reason why Jewish and Korean storeowners operate in black communities to an extent where their numbers have created identifiable groups: A lot of other shop owners left and don't want to come back.

You can label this racism but if black communities were unusually favorable to merchants there would be a flood of new businesses opening, and if they were simply as hospitable as any other communities they wouldn't be serviced only by hard scrabble, tightly knit ethnic groups that have found a way to adapt to the environment.

Your leaders who attempt to "enlighten" you by turning your greatest plague - racism - against other groups are not helping you.

The Jews and Koreans in black communities have not formed organized crime syndicates. If other business want to operate in your community they can; the Koreans and Jews will not firebomb their stores. Which means black owned businesses can operate in black communities. I've no doubt that this is the already the case, but what your leaders should be doing is "enlightening" more of you to the ways of education, hard work and capitalism so that if you don't want to, you won't have to depend upon businesses without roots in your community, and so you will have the means to serve and profit from your neighbors and, if you desire, give something more back to them.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 27 Oct, 2011 03:53 pm
@mt774,
You don't know a goddamned thing about me. You don't know what my experience is of any neighborhood. I guarantee you i know more about it than you do. People in poor neighborhoods, without regard to their skin color, get exploited.

Your bullshit about "shoot-down" is just that, bullshit. I am "shooting down" Farrakhan's alleged character because he is a hate-monger who spreads racist lies; he is deluding anyone who buys his line of horse ****, not enlightening them. Far from doing anything to aid black people, he simply widens the divide between people with different skin colors. He does not one constructive thing to improve the lives of black people.

You loony racist pig.
Green Witch
 
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Reply Thu 27 Oct, 2011 06:31 pm
@mt774,
Quote:
Well, you can't understand what Farrakhan means about sucking blood from the communities unless you have lived in the communities he is speaking of.


I lived in Crown Heights Brooklyn for a couple of years. Sometimes I was the only white face for blocks around or on the subway car. The only blood sucking I saw was black against black. Nice middle class blacks trying to make a living and raise families while other (mostly young male) blacks tormented them by stealing from their stores, trying to get their kids interested in drugs and knocking up their daughters. At some point we all have to take responsibility for ourselves and our communities and stop blaming others for our own failures. All races/ethnic groups have suffered at sometime in history and most have endured and proven themselves better than their oppressors. It's people like you that hold others back.
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mt774
 
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Reply Fri 28 Oct, 2011 05:42 am
Finn, you make some good points and you sound very learned. Have you travelled many the world and study a lot of cultures? Can i know your ethnic?

By the way, i am not black but have my life always lived in mostly black neighborhoods; so i just have concern for this issue.
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spendius
 
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Reply Fri 28 Oct, 2011 07:14 am
@Setanta,
But Farrakhan needs to widen the divide between people with different skin colours. It's his job.
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snood
 
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Reply Tue 1 Nov, 2011 10:43 am
I lived a homeless and near-homeless existence in DC in the late 80's. During that time I started hanging out with a young man who had recently committed himself to The Nation of Islam. I started reading the Qu'uran; I read the Final Call newspaper. I learned a couple of Islamic prayers in Arabic. I started trying to listen to Farrakhan with an open mind (as open as someone whose mind was somewhat muddled with alcohol and substances could be).

After months of that, I came to the same conclusion about Farrakhan and Black Muslims as Setanta has expressed, as related to Farrakhan's positive contributions to black people. Farrakhan is a wildly intelligent and persuasive man who has dedicated his life to feeding the fires of racial discord, and perverting the religion of Islam into a science that justifies the hatred of white people.

Although the ongoing NOI outreach to down-and-out black men has doubtless caused some men to lead more responsible, productive lives, this is far outweighed by the poison that Farrakhan has fed black people for decades. It's the same poison Elijah Muhammad pushed, before him. It's poison that El-hajj Malk El-Shabazz (Malcolm-X) started to denounce just before being killed.

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