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How do you feel about reparations?????

 
 
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Wed 26 Oct, 2011 02:14 pm
@mt774,
I read that the last person held as a slave in the United States died in 1979. If Charlie Smith wasn't the last (dying at something like 137 years of age), then I doubt too many have survived him to this day.

The question, therefore, seems moot.

I've wondered how any reparations scheme might work out.

1)Would a single determined sum be paid to everyone and anyone who could prove they were the descendant of a slave? Is that fair? Should the descendents of slaves be expected to have the ability to trace their decendency? I can't believe the birth records involved can be expected to be entirely reliable.

2)Would a single determined sum be set aside for every documented slave in US history and then allow their descendents to fight it out as to how much they got? What a mess that would be.

3)Would the total of #2 be paid to a foundation that had the goal of improving african-american lives?

What do you think mt774?
contrex
 
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Reply Wed 26 Oct, 2011 02:44 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
I can't believe the birth records involved can be expected to be entirely reliable.


I'll print 'em up... for a fee... that's the American way, the can-do attitude!
Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 26 Oct, 2011 02:51 pm
@mt774,
Yeah, we're calling you racist. What Jews in the United States were paid reparations, and by whom, and for what?

Putz.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Wed 26 Oct, 2011 03:07 pm
@contrex,
There's a cottage industry opportunity for you.

Perhaps you should start investing your money now. I'm sure it will be well spent.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 26 Oct, 2011 03:24 pm
respiration for all, I say, without predjudice
Ragman
 
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Reply Wed 26 Oct, 2011 03:48 pm
@mt774,
When you stick to reading comic books or quoting from people who make up history, you'll be constantly misled. You seem to be happy with your illegitimate and illiterate sources with comic explanations for American history.

You pose as someone who asks questions, yet it's clear that you've made up your mind with no factual info about American history and its culture.
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Ragman
 
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Reply Wed 26 Oct, 2011 03:51 pm
@mt774,
I've not seen a single racist comment other than your's in this thread.
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Ragman
 
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Reply Wed 26 Oct, 2011 03:53 pm
@edgarblythe,
A breathe of fresh air, I must say.
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Ragman
 
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Reply Wed 26 Oct, 2011 04:00 pm
@mt774,
mt774 wrote:

Well, Khalid Muhammad said Jews recieved some form of reparations, and Natives with their casinos and such...


So to add to your impeccable credibility, you're quoting from the former head of the New Black Panther Party? Also, the very same man who was kicked out of Nation of Islam by none-other than Farrakhan himself.

"Khalid Abdul Muhammad (born Harold Moore, Jr.; January 12, 1948 – February 17, 2001) was an African American activist who came to prominence as the National Assistant to Louis Farrakhan of the Nation of Islam (NOI). After a 1993 speech at Kean College Khalid was condemned and removed from his position in the Nation of Islam by Louis Farrakhan. He was also censured by the United States House of Representatives.

After being removed from the Nation of Islam he served as the National Chairman of the New Black Panther Party until his death in 2001. His views were considered controversial among most Americans, but his angry condemnations of white power gained him the support of many black youth."
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Wed 26 Oct, 2011 04:11 pm
@mt774,
Quote:
How do you feel about reparations?????


I don't feel anything about them. As others have said, find some living slaves and their owners and let the payouts begin. Since slavery has been abolished over 150 years ago I don't see anything happening that isn't a political ploy.

Quote:
Would you support that government idea for giving black Americans reparations?


I do not support the idea of reparations for American blacks. Reason No1. there are no black people today who were slaves.

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mysteryman
 
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Reply Wed 26 Oct, 2011 04:20 pm
@mt774,
I will gladly pay reparations to anyone, provided they can PROVE that they were once a slave in the USA or CSA at any time.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Wed 26 Oct, 2011 04:41 pm
@mysteryman,
If they do pay reparations I think I will patetion Italy for some cash. My relatives were slaves 2000 years ago. I think im right.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Wed 26 Oct, 2011 05:22 pm
@mt774,
Jewish holocaust victims did receive reparations...in Germany.

The US government didn't directly pay for the "casinos and such", and unless you consider the US government compensating Indian tribes for land it seized as reparations, your claim is baseless.

Do a little research and you won't have to keep making gross mistakes.

Google: Japanese reparations
Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 26 Oct, 2011 05:22 pm
I had forgotten--this clown thinks Louis Farrakhan is a righteous man. That tells you about all you need to know.
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msolga
 
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Reply Wed 26 Oct, 2011 10:33 pm
@edgarblythe,
Agreeing with you, edgar. And also with GreenWitch, CoastalRat & Ragman.

My mother was a recipient (after my father's death), for the time he spent in Germany working in a munitions factory, as one of the many Ukrainians who endured forced labor during WW11.

I don't know the all details, because she refused to talk about it before her death. But it certainly seems fair enough to me that she received financial compensation for that experience . They lived in a camp in Germany for something like 10 years. I was born in their last year there & we all came to Australia as refugees/"displaced people" after the conclusion of the war.
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mt774
 
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Reply Thu 27 Oct, 2011 07:29 am
I think most white Americans don't like people like Farrakhan and Khalid Muhammad (and others who have called for reparations) because they will seem to come across as "aggressive militant" black men, and since there a little racism in all American whites this is why they will tolerate people like Obama and Michael Steele because they are easily a tool for the establishment and zionists.

Anytime a black man speaks how he feels with a certain conviction he is labeled as a militant and radical by white America: Khalid Muhammad, Fred Hampton, Louis Farrakhan, Bobby Seale, George Jackson and so many more that we could mention.

Well, then i can just label Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Michael Savage, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly and Mike Huckabee as racist white militants.

So hey Ragman, will you agree for me to do that? That is fair right?
Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 27 Oct, 2011 07:40 am
@mt774,
There is more than a little racism in Louis Farrakhan, not the least of which is in the form of his vitriolic anti-semitism. I have no problem with you labeling those conservative douchebags as racist.

Upon what basis do you allege that there is "a little racism in all American whites?" You know so goddamned much about the United States and Americans, right? That's really rich coming from a blatant racist such as you.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 27 Oct, 2011 07:42 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
In fact, payments to European Jews by Germany and Switzerland were the restitution of money and valuables stolen from them or their parents and grandparents, which could be documented.
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Ragman
 
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Reply Thu 27 Oct, 2011 07:46 am
@mt774,
No, I don't agree. There's an adage that even a stopped clock can be correct twice a day. You have failed as of yet to have exhibited any such accuracy. Ordinarily I'd say keep trying, but there's really no hope this will happen. I, for one, won't be reading your comments if you do.

You have no concept of what most or even many Americans think or feel because you constantly try to stereotype and spread the lies of infamous racist liars. Racist lairs exist having many skin shades. Shows like Hannity and Colmes and Limbaugh and the like are media clowns and IMHO are dangerous with their words due to a gullible public that will buty anything sensational. Their audience ... built on fears...just like you..are pawns for such manipulators.

Lastly, you've exhibited a clear interest and energy focused on projecting white Americans with the racist hatred you feel. Regardless of all this, I wish you well. Even racists are entitled to have a good day.
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mt774
 
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Reply Thu 27 Oct, 2011 09:06 am
Do you guys know the difference between being anti- Zionist and anti-Jewish? Farrakhan is anti-Zionist, not anti-Jewish. Farrakhan has spoke to those Jews in community platforms before and he doesn't have such problem with Jewish who aren't Zionists.

Well, I agree with Farrakhan on many things about Libya war, Iraq war, Banking sector, crimes of Europeans and Americans against Africa and Asia.

He talks about the American and C.I.A overthrowing Sukarno; most public speakers will not even give that such an attention. This is an issue i care about passionately so that's why.
 

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