A constitutional amendment barring gay marriage!!

kjvtrue wrote:

ebrown_p wrote:

I only wish that "Christians" were a bit more like Christ.

How do you know what Christ is like?

The only record we have of Jesus is the Bible. We have a record of his life and his words. If Christians started here, I would be happy.

For starters. The Jesus of the Bible preached and lived a life of love. He associated with "sinners" and accepted everyone. He taught that you should not judge others. (Luke 6:37 , Matt 9:10-11).

Your posts, and those of many "Christians" are quite the opposite. You talk of hating homosexuals and you make constant judgements of people.

The words of Christ challenged his followers to be "righteous" themselves. The Christians job was never to attack the actions. (Luke 11:39).

Jesus spoke of "selling you possessions and giving to the poor". He and the early Christians were socialists. They believed that wealth should be shared. (Matt 19:21, Acts 2:38).

You attack anyone who wants to help the poor, you support those who want to allow the wealthy to keep more and more wealth.

It seems that todays "Christians" aren't interested in following Christ at all. They only pick out the passages of the Bible that allow them to justify their hatred and greed.

I would go on, but I want to stay somewhat on target. I have deep respect for those who strive to live like Christ. They strive to live lives of compassion, self-control and forgiveness.

Your posts are filled with hatred and judgement. They are nothing like Christ.

It is sad that people hear your the hatred in your words and think they represent Christ..

[size=25]King James I, who commissioned the new translation, was homosexual . . . [/size]
Real life, ya can't make this stuff up ! ! !

His great granddaughter (edit: meaning James I's great grand-daughter, for those not so swift on the up-take) married Monsieur de France, the brother of Louis XIV. He, Monsieur, was well known to be homosexual, made not the least effort to hide it, and was completely accepted in French society, so long as he fulfilled his duty, which was to produce an heir--and he had several children by a wife who could possibly have been the sweetest woman he could have married. He despised her; he practiced what ever cruelties were open to him in dealing with her. Such were the results of the ethos which governed the sexual behavior of monarchical and aristocratic men and women in the age of Kings--their only legitimate sexual function was reproduction. No one care about, nor usually interferred with their extra-curricular sexual antics, so long as they did their "duty" to reproduce. That meant mounting the wife, no matter how repugnant physically to the husband, or enduring the unwated attentions of the husband.

The "honor roll" of the bi-sexual and the homosexual among famous men of history is long indeed, and quite a few of them produced children. Some names which come quickly to mind are Iulius Caesar (his legionaries used to say he was "every woman's man, and every man's woman"), Alexander III of Macedon (mis-named "the Great"); Matilda of Tuscany may have been a lesbian, no one knows, she never married and seems to have remained a virgin all of her life--unlike Jeanne la Pucelle (Joan the Maiden, Joan of Arc), she lived a long and harrowing life in combat, personally hacking as many of the enemy to little bits as she was able--Joan probably just wanted to remain "pure," a virgin, and it would be foolish to assert what her sexuality may have been, while Matilda does make one wonder. Richard Coeur de Lion (Richard I of England, "Lionheart") was so comfortable as a homicidal homosexual (and i make no implication that the juxtaposition was inevitable--it in fact is very rare), that he ignored his mother, Eleanor of Acquitaine when she attempted to ridicule him in front of his army for being homosexual and failing to produce an heir. That was the bad thing about it to her mind, that he had not assured the succession--and there is some suspicion that she may have been bi-sexual or homosexual herself. Edward II is reasonably considered to have been homosexual, and he produced children by his wife, known affectionately by the English as "The She-wolf of France," which wife had him imprisoned and then strangled. I've mentioned James I and Louis XIV's brother.

That homosexuals in the monarchical or aristocratic classes in Europe married and produced children means nothing. They were just doing the job all members of their caste inherited at birth.