Which Assassination do you feel most tragic about??

@mt774,

Lumumba.

I was more affected at the time by JFK.....but look at the results.

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Why must we choose? In both cases it was not a good thing. Do you think if they could these men would say to themselves, "My assassination is bigger than his?"

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@mt774,

On November 22, 1963 President John F. Kennedy was shot and killed in Dallas, Texas. No one then alive can forget where they were when they heard the news. The shock and sorrow of that event and the three subsequent days became embedded in the national consciousness.

Images of the funeral, the boy's salute, the widow's composure, these are tucked away but never forgotten.

Here you will find the story of those four days in November when a nation stopped to mourn. You will read the first person recollections of those of us who remember it all so well. Where we were and what we felt is part of this history. See sidebar at right.

What is captured here is about this unique time, about the Kennedys, the Johnsons and Lee Harvey Oswald. The events of those days are sealed in an emotional time capsule shared by all who experienced them. Hopefully this will bring back those vivid days.

For those too young to recall, this will serve to tell you about four tragic days in November of 1963.

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@BredyHeron,

HUH? sidebar?

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@dlowan,

Julian Assange.

Too early?

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@Eorl,

Whoa

Good joke, but I suppose you could be serious as well.

Does anyone care about him anymore?

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@Eorl,

Nah too much little-country syndrome. If it happens it will be an Aussie trying to deify him.

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@BredyHeron,

BredyHeron wrote:

n November 22, 1963 President John F. Kennedy was shot and killed in Dallas, Texas. No one then alive can forget where they were when they heard the news.

Strangely, I have absolutely no idea where I was and I was quite alive at the time.
Was I dismissed early from school? Was I at home looking at maps? I have no idea.

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@Eorl,

Somebody killed him?

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@Robert Gentel,

I'm interested in a fuller explication of your views on Assange and wikileaks, if you have time.

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@Sturgis,

Sturgis wrote:

BredyHeron wrote:
n November 22, 1963 President John F. Kennedy was shot and killed in Dallas, Texas. No one then alive can forget where they were when they heard the news.

Strangely, I have absolutely no idea where I was and I was quite alive at the time.
Was I dismissed early from school? Was I at home looking at maps? I have no idea.

You must be a really unusual person, Sturgis. I would have agreed with that statement. But perhaps it applies only to Americans or people living in the USA at the time or serving in the US Armed Forces at the time.

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Which Assassination do you feel most tragic about??

General Augusto Pinochet; he was not exactly assassinated,
but he shoud have been treated with better respect, adulation & GRATITUDE than he was toward the end of his life.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

Pinochet should have been assassinated. Nobody would have missed the son of a bitch.

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@Lustig Andrei,

Lustig Andrei wrote:

Pinochet should have been assassinated. Nobody would have missed the son of a bitch.

That is very false. I certainly woud have missed him,
as woud have all anti-communists, but the OTHER killings listed in this thread
were pretty good n cheerful, for fellows that deserved them.

Only filthy communists opposed him.

Pinochet did a very fine job on them.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

Oh, go blow it out your ass, David. Wave your flag and peddle your extremist horseshit elsewhere. Please.

Pinochet was a bloody dictator, undoubtedly guity of the brutal extermination of a significant number of his own people. That he also happened to oppose Communism (possibly because it was quite expedient for him to do so vis-a-vis the then-current USA policy) does not excuse criminal behavior that rises to the level of crimes against humanity. When Castro does it, he's a filthy Communist. When someone like Pinochet does it, to you he's a freedom fighter.

Get real, you poor hopeless idiot.

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@Lustig Andrei,

Lustig Andrei wrote:

Oh, go blow it out your ass, David.

U shoud not
take an interest in my ass, Lustig.
That is none of your business. I don 't even want u cleaning it.

Lustig Andrei wrote:

Wave your flag and peddle your extremist horseshit elsewhere. Please.

Be damned!
When I begin to take orders from U, I 'll wave my flag where u tell me to.

Lustig Andrei wrote:

Pinochet was a bloody dictator, undoubtedly guity of the brutal extermination of a significant number of his own people.

Yes; communists. For that, he has earned the gratitude of any and every decent person
(obviously that does not include U) in the world.
Because of people whose hearts were like Pinochet, as anti-communists, the good side won the Third World War and we live in Freedom. (Admittedly: it shoud be MORE freedom, laissez faire free enterprize, but still. . . . )

Lustig Andrei wrote:

That he also happened to oppose Communism (possibly because it was quite expedient for him to do so vis-a-vis the then-current USA policy) does not excuse criminal behavior that rises to the level of crimes against humanity.

He deserved tons of GOLD in recognition thereof!
I never met Gen. Pinochet, but I really loved him & admired him, for his good works in killing commies.
I wish I coud have had the high honor of shaking his hand.

I shoud have had the presence of mind to write to him,
telling him of my approval thanking him, urging him on in hearty CONTINUATION
of greater anti-communist successes and asking for an autografed picture for framing.
If I coud go back in time, to correct my mistakes,
I 'd write to him expressing my THANKS and good wishes,
as I ask for his image for my wall.

Lustig Andrei wrote:

When Castro does it, he's a filthy Communist.

Even when he is busy eating, he is a filthy communist.
Until he blesses us with his death he will be a filthy communist.

Lustig Andrei wrote:

When someone like Pinochet does it, to you he's a freedom fighter.

Yes; well said!!! Thank u, for your special eloquence!

David

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@Finn dAbuzz,

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

RFK's assassination had the most emotional impact for me.
I was in 9th grade and he was my choice for President.

I well remember that night.
I watched the California primary election returns.
I sickeningly remembered the nightmare of the Kennedy Administration.
I deemed Robert Kennedy further to the left than his brother.
I 'd be less than candid, in failing to admit that I was thrilled
that the danger of Robert Kennedy was gone.
He was an enemy of America.
He was an enemy of personal freedom; he was a liberal, a dangerous liberal.

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

It's tough to judge which was the most tragic from an historical standpoint because it's impossible to know
how differently events would have unfolded if the person hadn't been killed.

If foiling the assassination of Franz Ferdinand had prevented WWI from taking place,
the number of lives saved would have been in the millions, and imagine how different the world might be.

The overthrow of the Czar (because of WWI) gave rise to communism,
which in very significant part, gave rise to the 2nd World War.
Your mention of the assassination of Franz Ferdinand Habsburg was well done.
He was a big lover of the US Constitution.
When the Black Hand found out about that,
it contributed very significantly in its plot to kill him.

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

Of course, WWI was going to transpire with or without the Arch Duke's demise.

I respectfully dissent from all that certainty.

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

Considering how much of a turning point the years 1965-1975 represented to American history,
it's interesting to consider how differently things would have turned out if JFK and survived the attempt to kill him.

Yes; we 'd have had a more intensely leftist leader.

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

I suppose for any assassination to be tragic in a historical sense an argument needs to be made that the opportunity for good or great things was extinguished along with the person's life. I tend to think that a continuation of the strong and largely principled leadership of MLK could have led to a more comprehensive and balanced societal advancement for African-Americans.

We know from the recently released Jackie Kennedy tapes,
that your idol, Bobby, did not join in your approval of King.
She quoted him as saying that he was "a terrible man" as I remember.

David

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Didn't Ted Kennedy leave a woman to die, why many still sad over his death?

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@mt774,

mt774 wrote:

Didn't Ted Kennedy leave a woman to die,

He did. Yes.

mt774 wrote:

why many still sad over his death?

Because of class warfare. He was against free enterprize.
As a leftist, he wanted to rob the rich and give some of the loot to the poor.
Some people LIKE that. I don 't.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

let the poor rot, right dave?

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