Question to those who do or do not doubt Christianity

@XXSpadeMasterXX,

Sure it was, and it was an appropriate response to your continual hatefulness. I'm not christian, i don't subscribe to that turn the other cheek bullshit (and, apparently, neither do you). So if you talk to me or about me in a hateful manner, you can expect an equivalent response.

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@Setanta,

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I'm not christian, i don't subscribe to that turn the other cheek bullshit (and, apparently, neither do you)

Oh, I disagree....

First post: I will indeed be a man and admit, I was acting like, and in distasteful manner by arguing with you, yesterday, and the previous day...Which is why I chose to avoid, or dodge you because I do not wish to continue this type of behavior...

Second Post: What more do you want me to say?? If it makes you feel better than for your sake I will say, I guess I do then...Does this make you feel better and bury the hatchet??

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

So I will "prove" I am for embracing the turn the other cheek...If you respond in another negative manner toward me, then the last thing possible for me to do so that we do not fight anymore is to block you....end of story....No more fights...at least not on my behalf...

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

I hate to make it seem like I'm helping Setanta to gang up on you, but as per post #4,833,198 (your own post)

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To quote other atheists on here, The burden of proof lies on the person claiming these things....So please provide evidence

You made the claim that you have heard atheists asking for signs of God's existence:

Post #4,830,897 (again, your post)

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I have heard atheists on here say for God to give a sign

Therefore the burden of proof lies on you to provide evidence of this if asked.

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@RexDraconis111,

Absolutely agreed upon...and my mistake for posting that, when the majority of atheists don't feel this way...(asking for a sign) but since I'm genuine in my posts, and it's not impossible to be asked...(as an atheist on here has backed it up and even asked for a sign) It should not be hard to fathom that atheists out there feel this way...and that my understandings were based this way from atheists who did in fact say that they wished for a sign to embrace....Absolutely 100% my fault for "believing this" without asking first, but once I felt that Setanta took it to a nasty manner, I did not feel compelled to throw these atheists to the curb because Setanta, or others disagree, and Setanta calls them pituative....

The fact of the matter is it happened, and I learned to ask, rather than assume for the majority of people out there....

And to quote my post...

To quote other atheists on here, The burden of proof lies on the person claiming these things....So please provide evidence

I said it the way I did, because I do not solely religh on proof...they do, so if that is their view then use your view to prove your view...I do not religh on burdens of proof, therefor, I won't ask others to provide proof, other than in this case which was to prove a point...of proving your proof...not of me, proving my proof...I don't religh on proof, and there is no way for to me prove my proof...etc...

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Just out of curiosity, for whoever is Atheist, and feels bold enough to explain this to me...What is the difference between Looking for a sign? And asking for evidence??

Do you guys and girls believe that asking is not looking???

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Any rational person who reads this article should immediately reject all of modern Christianity as fictional bullshit. Biblical scholars readily admit the bible is not accurate and was written decades or centuries after the events it describes. The story changes and gets distorted to the point of being irrelevant. If the details aren't important, we might as well worship Harry Potter.

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/29/my-take-the-3-biggest-biblical-misconceptions/

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The Bible is both a reservoir of spiritual insight and a cultural icon to which lip service is still paid in the Western world. Yet when the Bible is talked about in public by both believers and critics, it becomes clear that misconceptions abound.

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@jcboy,

Do you really need to go that far to look and see if Jesus Christ for humanity is a good thing apposed to a bad thing??

If you can see he was a good thing, then there is no need to try to disect and scruntinze every word written in the Bible...

If you believe He was a bad thing, then please explain to me, how so??

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

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Do you really need to go that far to look and see if Jesus Christ for humanity is a good thing apposed to a bad thing??

If you can see he was a good thing, then there is no need to try to disect and scruntinze every word written in the Bible...

If you believe He was a bad thing, then please explain to me, how so??

Sorry you can not cut out a small part of an evil religion and declare it not evil due to being able to pointed out quotes that priest love instead of the bulk of the religion that priested hate and killings on a massive scale.

As far as Jesus being a good thing given the numbers of believers that was kill over the fighting on how must he was a part of the god head and how must he was human, for that reason alone the myth of a Jesus was a bad thing.

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@jcboy,

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Any rational person who reads this article should immediately reject all of modern Christianity as fictional bullshit. Biblical scholars readily admit the bible is not accurate and was written decades or centuries after the events it describes. The story changes and gets distorted to the point of being irrelevant. If the details aren't important, we might as well worship Harry Potter.

I disagree with your take of this article. and if your not willing to except his further positions as relevant, than why should we believe your position is the most relevant?>?

In other words if your using this article to dispel your doubts, than you should also take in what he says concerning the misunderstandings, and what they in fact mean (according to him)...He is not saying the Bible is still not a guide to live your life by, but that the words should not be disected and scrutinized, and you can see the light in each person who knows God....with which I agree with him....and it goes far beyond Christianity....(according to me)

And the goal is to have people personify this light or magnify it, with which I agree....You may be able to do it without religion, a lot can't...The fact you made this post tells me that you already have convictions with your consciousness and God, and your trying to dispel them...If that is the case Only you can sort that out, and likewise others who feel the same way as you....

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@BillRM,

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Sorry you can not cut out a small part of an evil religion and declare it not evil due to being able to pointed out quotes that priest love instead of the bulk of the religion that priested hate and killings on a massive scale.

Where do you get your facts from??? Where is there proof that more are evil, than less are evil?? as far as Priests are concerned, it has been shown that around 1 to less than 1% molest children....Which is still 1% too high, but in any event it shows that the majority of Christians are for betting of humanity than making people suffer or be evil.....

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As far as Jesus being a good thing given the numbers of believers that was kill over the fighting on how must he was a part of the god head and how must he was human, for that reason alone the myth of a Jesus was a bad thing.

I don't really understand what your saying, but if your saying what I think you mean, which is people kill in his name, and that shows he is evil. then explain to me how martyrs or paytron saints are horrificilly killed trying to spread his words or piece, mercy, love, acceptance etc...does not validate that it is also the flip side around...and I have explained evil who do evil in a God's name...Who ever they are, and whoever they say they embrace = THEY DO NOT KNOW HIM!!! And the SAME exact thing as atheists who claim to be atheists who kill for the sake of killing...they do not symbolize people who actually work to progress humanity....which is light that can be seen in every person living....evil=evil...Light=Light...no matter what they do or speak....when you and a few others on here understand this. It will be a lot easier to talk about this....

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

Yes it is not true Christians that are the killers however that would mean that the true Christians in all of history could fit into an old fashion phone booth.

Either that or they were all in deep hiding when the non true Christians was out killings all over the planet in his name.

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

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As far as Jesus being a good thing given the numbers of believers that was kill over the fighting on how must he was a part of the god head and how must he was human, for that reason alone the myth of a Jesus was a bad thing.

And even if this is true, (which I don't believe so) than it's not Jesus that is a bad thing, but people who try to embrace Jesus who are bad hypocrites....

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@BillRM,

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Yes it is not true Christians that are the killers however that would mean that the true Christians in all of history could fit into an old fashion phone booth.

Why?? do you fit in the same phone booth as atheists who kill and are gang members>>?

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Either that or they were all in deep hiding when the non true Christians was out killings all over the planet in his name.

What do you want or expect them to do??? All the more reason why a God, rights the wrongs, and why people may have to at least be purged, rather than believing life is what you make of it, and then you rot anyways...

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

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What do you want or expect them to do???

Why give true witness to their faith and do their best to stop the killings being done in their savior name.

It they consider that risking or even losing their lives on this earth is not worth the price then why would anyone respect their believes or faith?

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@BillRM,

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Why give true witness to their faith and do their best to stop the killings being done in their savior name.

It they consider that risking or even losing their lives on this earth is not worth the price then why would anyone respect their believes or faith?

So is it fair to say then (according to you) that You fit in the same both as atheists who kill for the sake of killing rather than ones who are for progressing humanity, and = Light??

And is it fair to say that (according to you) your in hiding right now, and should do these same exact things for your fellow atheists brothers and sisters, So that you show your willing to give up your prize (life) in order to save others beliefs/lack of beliefs??

If your not any different why would you believe others who embrace God would do otherwise? They are faithful believers but not Messiah's

And even when the Messiah did this, he was sent to the cross...So the object is not to die to preserve their lives, but that to take a warrior stance, and in the end, tell them they are going to get what they deserve...Which to me, telling them they may be purged, or sent to hell for their actions is already a right step in doing appropriate actions rather than believing your free to do as you please, and you rot in the ground in the end anyways...

Jesus died to save, and they and all of us may be saved, but if some are purged, or sent to hell, than it is justified...if I was to try to fight them to over come them, I would be a murderer, rather than faithful, and if I died, I would not be able to go and spread the words to the ones who may or may not be totally lost....What would be more beneficial??

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

My fellows atheists had organize into large groups and are killing whole peoples in the name of atheism?

Strange I had not hear of this happening.

Sorry but the Jesus myth had been shown to had been far more harmful then helpful in the last two thousands years.

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@BillRM,

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My fellows atheists had organize into large groups and are killing whole peoples in the name of atheism?

Yes, go look up gangs in America, and what there spiritual beliefs are...there not doing it, solely in the name of atheism, but many gangs murder, and claim/or are founded on some disbelief or lack of belief in a God/or claim to be atheists....which basically is the same exact thing...

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Strange I had not hear of this happening.

Because you haven't heard or unaware does not mean it is non-existent...(same exact thing with a God)

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Sorry but the Jesus myth can been shown to had been far more harmful then helpful in the last two thousands years.

harmful or helpful? why would it show anything if it was a Myth?? And I disagree, there are a Plenthora of people from the beginning to the end who will utterly do wicked in his name, and make no mistake about it...But the majority, will take it, use him, and be responsible, good natured people...

So therefor, it is the people who act irresponsible with the message, and not the basis of the fact or myth of Jesus and his message that are in fact corrupt...and I say to you, the same exact exists with any belief or lack of belief....As in an atheists who chose to kill to kill, compared to ones who "progress humanity"...It would be completely wrong for me to embrace atheism, and go out, contort your words, or others on here, and kill people etc...So it is not the messinger, but the followers who contort....and their job to understand, and diferentiate, and put truth, knowledge, wisdom, power to work etc...

If Christianity has gone astray it is not Jesus to blame but people who claim to "know him" but do not take the time to get to know Jesus Christ...As is with any belief....and being Atheist and believing this only happens with religious, and atheists out there kill to kill...just like religious do....So it is these wicked ones who distort reality, and corrupt others, and others words and minds, not that the one whole body itself, is complete corruption....And if that is how you feel than again I disagree, there is much more sanity in the one body of Christ than there is of corruption....If you disagree, I am willing to listen to some article, that shows that more of Christian people are corrupt, rather than the majority being good, honest people, with a few nutters out there.....

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

XXSpadeMasterXX wrote:

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My fellows atheists had organize into large groups and are killing whole peoples in the name of atheism?

Yes, go look up gangs in America, and what there spiritual beliefs are...there not doing it, solely in the name of atheism, but many gangs murder, and claim/or are founded on some disbelief or lack of belief in a God/or claim to be atheists....which basically is the same exact thing...

you need to talk another look at gangs in America. Take a look at the crosses the members are wearing.

You're not going to find many atheists in America at all. It's a very Christian country.

They may not be Christians of the sort you'd like them to be, but they likely feel the same way about you.

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