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Question to those who do or do not doubt Christianity

 
 
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 22 Apr, 2012 09:47 am
@spendius,
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There are new myths. America, the State, Media as parent, celebrity cults. History itself in a myth. Science is a myth.


Are you making up some new myths? How are you able to make science a myth or America a myth?
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 22 Apr, 2012 09:48 am
@reasoning logic,
You could mention just exactly what was involved in your study of the history of religions. As you don't read books, it can't have been very in depth. Your response to Spademaster's suggestion that Pagan religions have a monotheistic element was ridicule. In fact the tone used was similar to that one would use addressing a small child.

You did not ask him how he came to that conclusion, or even state that you merely disagreed. I wanted to know what you based that ridicule on. You've not been able to name one text that would support such a reaction, just some nebulous study.

It would seem that your reaction was not based on reason and logic but on uniformed opinion.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 22 Apr, 2012 09:50 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
we will have to change her epitaph


Should have mentioned this before. Very funny fm. That made me laugh, I appreciate it.
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 22 Apr, 2012 09:56 am
I think that someone has incorrectly tagged this thread "Spades Journey To Atheism".

I do not think that if God himself came down out of heaven and told Spade in person that "there are no Gods, it is only your imagination" "it still would not matter because he has to much faith. 2 Cents
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 22 Apr, 2012 09:57 am
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:

I think that someone has incorrectly tagged this thread "Spades Journey To Atheism".

I do not think that if God himself came down out of heaven and told Spade in person that "there are no Gods, it is only your imagination" "it still would not matter because he has to much faith. 2 Cents


That scenario is illogical to say the least. If there are no gods, how could God come down to say such a thing?
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 22 Apr, 2012 10:02 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
That scenario is illogical to say the least. If there are no gods, how could God come down to say such a thing?


Wow you got it. I guess you did not find it funny? By the way that is a tag I must have put on there.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 22 Apr, 2012 10:14 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
Your response to Spademaster's suggestion that Pagan religions have a monotheistic element was ridicule.


I am not sure how you came to this conclusion because I think that many Pagan religions have a monotheistic element. You seem to need to know that "pagan is in the eye of the beholder.

Being that you are the great Historian that you are, tell me how Jesus was spelled 500 years ago in English. That should be easy being that you can use a computer and not have to use a book "like back in the old days.
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XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sun 22 Apr, 2012 10:35 am
@reasoning logic,
Quote:
I think you may be correct about Monotheism and the one God part. But for all of the pagan religions to point to the same truth, is to have one hell of an imagination.

Did I not say I could be completely wrong about it>>? 2 Cents
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 22 Apr, 2012 10:42 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
Quote:
Did I not say I could be completely wrong about it>>?


You could have said it in the past but I did not see it there but you did say

Quote:
I do not know how or where it started from...


I guess that could be close to saying I could be completely wrong about it
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sun 22 Apr, 2012 10:43 am
@reasoning logic,
No, back last page, or a few pages ago, when I was taking to found Soul about the Pagan religions...I went into detail....and said I could be completely wrong about the Pagan religions....Go back and reread....

I do not believe I am wrong, that almost every major monotheism points to one divine God....Nice try to do that, and throw that out there like that....
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 22 Apr, 2012 10:51 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
Quote:
No back last page or a few pages ago, when I was taking to found Soul about the Pagan religions...I went into detail....and said I could be completely wrong about the Pagan religions....Go back and reread....


I do not need to go back because I think that I can trust you on that spade and you are saying now that you could be wrong and that is good enough for me to know that you mean it.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 22 Apr, 2012 11:04 am
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:
Wow you got it. I guess you did not find it funny?


You guessed correctly.
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spendius
 
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Reply Sun 22 Apr, 2012 11:13 am
@reasoning logic,
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How are you able to make science a myth or America a myth?


Scientifically. Both are artificial constructions of mankind just as all other myths are. And they serve a purpose in time and space for those who created them and who believe in them.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 22 Apr, 2012 12:05 pm
@spendius,
Quote:
Scientifically. Both are artificial constructions of mankind just as all other myths are. And they serve a purpose in time and space for those who created them and who believe in them.


What do you think about this read Spendius?

http://www.textetc.com/theory/myth-of-science.html
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sun 22 Apr, 2012 01:22 pm
@reasoning logic,
Quote:
I do not need to go back because I think that I can trust you on that spade and you are saying now that you could be wrong and that is good enough for me to know that you mean it.

But you should also trust the fact then, that it could be right....There is no reason a person would be logical, then switch the logical switch off...
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 22 Apr, 2012 01:24 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
I think all the switches are off.
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spendius
 
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Reply Sun 22 Apr, 2012 01:35 pm
@reasoning logic,
Nobody can think about that lot in one go.

Quote:
"God" is the mystical idea of the vegetative harmony of the self with nature. If and when God represents nothing but the personification of the natural laws which govern man and make him part of the universal natural process, then---and only then---can natural science and religion come to terms.


Wilhelm Reich. The Function of the Orgasm.
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sun 22 Apr, 2012 02:11 pm
@reasoning logic,
And if You think I switch the switch off and said those posts...

Then it has really nothing to do with me being logical, illogical, and switching a switch on and then off...It has much more to do with the fact that You are agreeing when you hear I say things that met your approval...And what you want to hear...and disagreeing, or calling it Illogical, or switching the logical switch off, when what I say does not meet you approval....

If this is the case...It is not really being open-minded....

Could I be thinking illogically about those posts and be wrong? Yes...

But then it would be the same for me to think this is an illogical question...

"Can you demonstrate a way to show a spaghetti Monster?"

I do not feel that people are split with logic and illogical....Very smart people just say some dumb things sometimes
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FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Sun 22 Apr, 2012 03:43 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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Bad luck if there is a few hours to go RYAN, a girl's gotta do what she's gotta do, when she wannna do it ya know? Smile Wishing you a fantastic 30th birthday. Hope all your dreams come true and that you have your cake and eat it as well Smile Kel x
spendius
 
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Reply Sun 22 Apr, 2012 05:02 pm
@FOUND SOUL,
How can a birthday be happy when it is a reminder that another year has gone and there is one less to play with and that all the biological systems are that bit more useless.
 

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