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Question to those who do or do not doubt Christianity

 
 
FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2012 03:39 am
@voiceindarkness,
StarCraft II - Voiceindarkness.....

Has voiceindarkness and XXS - well that's also a "game" .. You trying to compete with a "forum game" that you can not win?



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voiceindarkness
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2012 05:31 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
XXSpadeMasterXX wrote:

He won't answer you...He is either going to be sarcastic, and answer your questions with questions...Or he will dodge them altogether...

I have been down this path before...and asked he specifically to answer 2 questions I had for him...It took about 5 posts of that back and forth, before he gave me his direct opinion about the questions...

I personally feel like your wasting your time...

But if you think you can reason with Voice...I wish you the best of luck, and admire the determination...I have it, and had it toward him, but realized...it isn't going to happen with him...for the reasons I have said before...He is either sick, and unaware...Or is personally trying to get a rive out of all of us...


XXSpadeMasterXX wrote:


I have done that, and reconciled myself to voice in those ways, and will continue to do so!! thank you for the reply!!

Funny you mention the Prophet, ill thing...I have said on here I think Voice has a gift but is unaware of it....and second I am a Prophet of God....and am currently deemed ill by the world....

Who's deemed ill you say by the world. takes one to know one I guess...
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2012 03:01 pm
@voiceindarkness,
look around you...almost every atheist who disagrees with me labels me as ill, or delusional...

It is the same with you, that is why I said you could have a prophetic gift...and maybe are a sick person...

But I do not believe your the Messiah...

cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2012 03:08 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
Show me where I said such a thing? You have a persecution complex.
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2012 03:55 pm
@cicerone imposter,
If you did not say it to me, then you fit under the category of almost every atheist...and not the atheist who has or does...

Seems like for you to respond like that to me, when you haven't ever said it...Seems like you have some kind of guilty conscience thing, not me having a persecution complexion...

If you did not say it, It wasn't referring to you...

Matter of fact, you did not even cross my mind when I made my response...
Chights47
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2012 05:58 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
XXSpadeMasterXX wrote:
look around you...almost every atheist who disagrees with me labels me as ill, or delusional...

It is the same with you, that is why I said you could have a prophetic gift...and maybe are a sick person...

But I do not believe your the Messiah...
Just to clarify, if I am guilty of this (which I do think that I have said this) I don't mean that you are mentally ill, or are deserving to be placed in a mental institution or anything. I say this as an easier way of expressing that I believe that you are misinterpreting certain experiences in support of an idea that was created by bronze age nomads who didn't have the scientific knowledge of the world that we have today...voice on the other hand is something else...
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2012 06:02 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
I don't have a guilty conscience, and to prove it, **** off!
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2012 06:17 pm
@cicerone imposter,
lol, ok...thanks for the reply!

All that really proved, is that your acting like a jerk...not that you don't have a guilty conscience or anything...

P.S. I am not so big into the proving, not proving thing, so you don't have to prove it to me...and saying **** off...isn't proof anyways...only proof, of some kind of hate, or dislike...
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2012 06:32 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
No, you're the ****'n jerk implying I responded as I did because of guilt. You're full of bull shite!

You also desecrate the painting of your "savior."
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2012 06:56 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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No, you're the ****'n jerk implying I responded as I did because of guilt. You're full of bull shite!

I said that because that is the way it seemed to me...What ever made you think I meant you if I never heard or said you call me insane or delusional, I still don't know...

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You also desecrate the painting of your "savior."

If Jesus is real, lets not point fingers as to who desecrates him or not...huh?

And if he doesn't exist, it really doesn't made a dam difference one way or another now does it??? Wink Wink Wink Very Happy
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2012 07:03 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
Is this something real that you can believe in?

XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2012 10:07 pm
@reasoning logic,
Isn't it true in that movie he goes on to kill people to get his way??

even if he is right, he is wrong...if you catch my drift!! Wink Wink Very Happy
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Thu 9 Feb, 2012 01:48 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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Isn't it true in that movie he goes on to kill people to get his way??


I must not have seen the movie, what was the name of it?


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even if he is right, he is wrong...if you catch my drift!! Wink Wink Very Happy


What is your drift? I guess I would need to see the movie.
Chights47
 
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Reply Thu 9 Feb, 2012 05:40 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
The movie is V for Vendetta and he doesn't kill people to get his way, he kills people for 2 reasons. The first is for vigilanty justice against an oppressive dictatorship after what the did to him at a concentration camp type place and using him (and many other people) for experiments and also to overthrow the oppressive and manipulative government.

Or at least that's what I gathered from the movie.
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Thu 9 Feb, 2012 06:12 am
@reasoning logic,
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What is your drift? I guess I would need to see the movie.

That you can never expect people to take you seriously, or accept you as being right if you wish to force your will on people or use opposition to get there or prove it...

The Christian, Atheist thing, it is perfectly summed up as well...First, forget that there are people who kill in the name of a God, they don't know God, never have, and are as good as Satanists, not embracing any God who exists...Because these Christian people who do this kill, and the second most important commandment is to love thy neighbor as thyself, which it is clear their not doing, and have no clue about Jesus Christ, and his teachings...

With that, Christians for the most part, (and survey this website) take steps back, and turn the other cheek constantly...While atheists in general do not, they post what they want, when they want, and feel submission is wrong to do...and in the process they are forcing opposition to get their points across, which if they were right, or were truly free thinkers, and skeptics, rather than closet worshipers, they would easily be able to see, and realize this...

But they still don't seem to grasp this concept, which tells me, religion of Christ will never disappear, no matter what, and atheism, won't last, (example: Atheist theology) or there in for one hell of some kind of awaking some day...

As far as myself acting hateful at times...I do not condone it, nor do I think it is exactly what Christ would do himself, but I am not perfect, and am not him, I can trap people with their words, but they do not confess up about it, and I am not the person Jesus is, to make them be self-honest about it like he was, and is, and going to be...So if I act hateful, (again not saying I like to do it, nor is it 100% correct), but there is a snapping point, when you must take a warrior stance in order to show these people who act like this, that opposition, and force is not ever going to work, and if it takes being distasteful, and hateful, to realize, their distasteful, hateful ways, then my positions toward them have merit, and they realize what the feeling is like, that they so often overlook...and at least if nothing else, they get my attention, and respect me...I am not their punching bag, nor are they mine...Once they realize what it is like to be treated like that, they stop?? How come?? could it be because they realize how much of a dick their being? I am doing it with one sole reason, to give it as I receive it, nothing more nothing less...Once they stop, I will gladly stop...and even then, most times I am still he bigger man and walk away...which shows I am being truthful, and genuine...

They on the other hand can not say the same thing...For they really have no business even arguing with theists, if they truly believe their crazy, or insane...
(I honestly do not believe that, and so it is a different argument, but I am going by what they claim) If they truly believe believers are loony, and insane and post to laugh at them or get entertainment out of it, they are vain douche bags, or doing exploitation, what they should be doing is avoiding theists, and discussing matters with other atheists then... and ones who actually act like they care about "humanity" and not themselves, or others who feel like they do...would, and should post to theists...for theists would openly listen to atheists who act like they actually care about "humanity"....

That is why I said I value, yours, Chights, and Izzy's opinions because you guys teach, and well as listen to be taught, or learn...
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XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Thu 9 Feb, 2012 06:19 am
@Chights47,
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The movie is V for Vendetta and he doesn't kill people to get his way, he kills people for 2 reasons. The first is for vigilanty justice against an oppressive dictatorship after what the did to him at a concentration camp type place and using him (and many other people) for experiments and also to overthrow the oppressive and manipulative government.

Still, like I said, Right thing, wrong way...
djjd62
 
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Reply Thu 9 Feb, 2012 06:27 am
@Chights47,
the movie was good, but the comic books were better

V for Vendetta is a ten-issue comic book series written by Alan Moore and illustrated mostly by David Lloyd, set in a dystopian future United Kingdom imagined from the 1980s to about the 1990s. A mysterious masked revolutionary who calls himself "V" works to destroy the totalitarian government, profoundly affecting the people he encounters. Warner Bros. released a film adaptation of V for Vendetta in 2005.

The series depicts a near-future UK after a nuclear war, which has left much of the world destroyed, though most of the damage to the country is indirect, via floods and crop failures. In this future, a fascist party called Norsefire has exterminated its opponents in concentration camps and now rules the country as a police state. V, an anarchist revolutionary dressed in a Guy Fawkes mask, begins an elaborate, violent, and intentionally theatrical campaign to murder his former captors, bring down the government, and convince the people to rule themselves.
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Thu 9 Feb, 2012 06:52 am
@djjd62,
Chights:

Quote:
The movie is V for Vendetta and he doesn't kill people to get his way, he kills people for 2 reasons. The first is for vigilanty justice against an oppressive dictatorship after what the did to him at a concentration camp type place and using him (and many other people) for experiments and also to overthrow the oppressive and manipulative government.

Or at least that's what I gathered from the movie.

djjd62:

Quote:
V for Vendetta is a ten-issue comic book series written by Alan Moore and illustrated mostly by David Lloyd, set in a dystopian future United Kingdom imagined from the 1980s to about the 1990s. A mysterious masked revolutionary who calls himself "V" works to destroy the totalitarian government, profoundly affecting the people he encounters. Warner Bros. released a film adaptation of V for Vendetta in 2005.

The series depicts a near-future UK after a nuclear war, which has left much of the world destroyed, though most of the damage to the country is indirect, via floods and crop failures. In this future, a fascist party called Norsefire has exterminated its opponents in concentration camps and now rules the country as a police state. V, an anarchist revolutionary dressed in a Guy Fawkes mask, begins an elaborate, violent, and intentionally theatrical campaign to murder his former captors, bring down the government, and convince the people to rule themselves.

I LOVE that mask though, I wish I had one of my own!! even better than the Scream mask!!! Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Very Happy Very Happy Mr. Green

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Reply Thu 9 Feb, 2012 01:47 pm
@djjd62,
It first appeared in Warrior magazine, and I followed it avidly, until Warrior went defunct about 2/3 of the way through. Then it was released in serial form in America! Not bloody available over here, I had to wait for bloody ages for it to become a graphic novel.

http://forbiddenplanet.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Warrior-2-Marvelman-cover-small.jpg
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Chights47
 
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Reply Thu 9 Feb, 2012 05:30 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
XXSpadeMasterXX wrote:
Quote:
The movie is V for Vendetta and he doesn't kill people to get his way, he kills people for 2 reasons. The first is for vigilanty justice against an oppressive dictatorship after what the did to him at a concentration camp type place and using him (and many other people) for experiments and also to overthrow the oppressive and manipulative government.
Still, like I said, Right thing, wrong way...
The way that I see it, the end justifies the means. What was done was wrong but was for the greater good, so it was ultimately justified. You say it was the wrong way, if that the case could you propose a more effective and morally right path to the same ends?
 

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