@reasoning logic,
Quote:What is your drift? I guess I would need to see the movie.
That you can never expect people to take you seriously, or accept you as being right if you wish to force your will on people or use opposition to get there or prove it...
The Christian, Atheist thing, it is perfectly summed up as well...First, forget that there are people who kill in the name of a God, they don't know God, never have, and are as good as Satanists, not embracing any God who exists...Because these Christian people who do this kill, and the second most important commandment is to love thy neighbor as thyself, which it is clear their not doing, and have no clue about Jesus Christ, and his teachings...
With that, Christians for the most part, (and survey this website) take steps back, and turn the other cheek constantly...While atheists in general do not, they post what they want, when they want, and feel submission is wrong to do...and in the process they are forcing opposition to get their points across, which if they were right, or were truly free thinkers, and skeptics, rather than closet worshipers, they would easily be able to see, and realize this...
But they still don't seem to grasp this concept, which tells me, religion of Christ will never disappear, no matter what, and atheism, won't last, (example: Atheist theology) or there in for one hell of some kind of awaking some day...
As far as myself acting hateful at times...I do not condone it, nor do I think it is exactly what Christ would do himself, but I am not perfect, and am not him, I can trap people with their words, but they do not confess up about it, and I am not the person Jesus is, to make them be self-honest about it like he was, and is, and going to be...So if I act hateful, (again not saying I like to do it, nor is it 100% correct), but there is a snapping point, when you must take a warrior stance in order to show these people who act like this, that opposition, and force is not ever going to work, and if it takes being distasteful, and hateful, to realize, their distasteful, hateful ways, then my positions toward them have merit, and they realize what the feeling is like, that they so often overlook...and at least if nothing else, they get my attention, and respect me...I am not their punching bag, nor are they mine...Once they realize what it is like to be treated like that, they stop?? How come?? could it be because they realize how much of a dick their being? I am doing it with one sole reason, to give it as I receive it, nothing more nothing less...Once they stop, I will gladly stop...and even then, most times I am still he bigger man and walk away...which shows I am being truthful, and genuine...
They on the other hand can not say the same thing...For they really have no business even arguing with theists, if they truly believe their crazy, or insane...
(I honestly do not believe that, and so it is a different argument, but I am going by what they claim) If they truly believe believers are loony, and insane and post to laugh at them or get entertainment out of it, they are vain douche bags, or doing exploitation, what they should be doing is avoiding theists, and discussing matters with other atheists then... and ones who actually act like they care about "humanity" and not themselves, or others who feel like they do...would, and should post to theists...for theists would openly listen to atheists who act like they actually care about "humanity"....
That is why I said I value, yours, Chights, and Izzy's opinions because you guys teach, and well as listen to be taught, or learn...