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Embarrassed (again) about being a Texan.

 
 
JTT
 
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Reply Mon 22 Aug, 2011 10:44 pm
@Thomas,
You're nowhere near old enough to have lived when Hitler lived, are you, Thomas?

[That's not really a true tag question, more like a statement; I think I've seen a pic of you]
Thomas
 
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Reply Mon 22 Aug, 2011 10:46 pm
@JTT,
I'm not. And in case you haven't noticed, I'm being semi-facetious in this subthread.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 22 Aug, 2011 10:48 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

Quote:
The problem here isn’t just that Perry has the wrong answer. The more meaningful problem is that Perry doesn’t seem to know how to even formulate an answer. He starts with a proposition in his mind (abstinence-only education is effective), and when confronted with evidence that the proposition appears false (high teen-pregnancy rates), the governor simply hangs onto his belief, untroubled by evidence.


Couldn't watch the video, but I read the above. It sounds a lot like what people do when faced with issues on language.

My condolences to the people of Texas. I truly hope that I don't have to offer those same condolences to the people of the whole US of A.

He's done this same thing many times in an attempt to avoid exactly this situation.

When confronted with the failure of abstinence-only education, he has successfully flipped the discussion so that he gets to debate the efficacy of abstinence rather than abstinence-only education.

It's worked so well in the past, he just didn't know how to continue when the interviewer refused to let him slide by.
JTT
 
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Reply Mon 22 Aug, 2011 10:55 pm
@DrewDad,
Quote:
It's worked so well in the past, he just didn't know how to continue when the interviewer refused to let him slide by.


I don't think GWB would have gone 8 years if he hadn't been given so many passes. Why did that happen? Will it happen again with Perry? [shudder]
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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 22 Aug, 2011 10:58 pm
I wonder what the Dixie Chicks think of R Perry. Will they speak out again or do they figure they've done their duty and suffered enough.

At least they never made nice. Great gals those!
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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 22 Aug, 2011 11:13 pm
Quote:

What Would President Perry Mean for Your Rights? Get Ready for Forced Ultrasound and Other Violations

by Nancy Keenan, NARAL Pro-Choice America
August 12, 2011 - 10:39am

Gov. Rick Perry (R-Texas) is expected to announce his candidacy for president this weekend.

Perry is Texas' longest-serving governor, having succeeded George W. Bush in 2000, and his nascent campaign is getting a ton of attention. But what do we really know about Rick Perry?

Well, my staff and I have been working to answer that question, sifting through voting records and other material as several individuals declared their intention to run for president. This is part of our work to connect the personal with the political. How a candidate voted on choice or what actions he or she took as governor tell us a lot about what he or she would do if elected president.

In this spirit, we recently analyzed the records of Gov. Perry and 11 other announced and potential GOP presidential candidates.

Gov. Perry's choice-related actions as governor of Texas are dominated by anti-choice positions.

So, what kind of effect do these laws have on women's freedom and privacy?

Many of the laws he signed inject political interference into women's private decision-making. Gov. Perry signed into law a measure that would require women to receive a state-mandated lecture that includes medically inaccurate information before they can access abortion care. He then signed additional legislation amending the law to force some women to make two trips to the provider before receiving abortion care.

Just this year, Gov. Perry signed into law a bill requiring that a woman seeking abortion care undergo an ultrasound--even if she does not want one, and even if her doctor does not recommend it.

He's taken strong stances in support of anti-choice "crisis pregnancy centers" (CPCs). One law he helped to enact established "choose life" license plates, which allocate funding for CPCs. NARAL Pro-Choice Texas has been a leader in documenting how CPCs often mislead, misinform, harass, and intimidate women. A recent investigation found that several CPCs in Texas had racked up numerous safety and privacy violations.

And how's this for supporting anti-choice ideology? Gov. Perry signed a proclamation declaring April 2009 "Abortion Recovery Awareness Month" in Texas. The proclamation claims that abortion "often leads to lasting emotional and mental health problems for the mother..." Perry is not alone in the primary field, as former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty also signed a similar proclamation in his state. This proclamation uses recycled and inflammatory anti-choice rhetoric that's out of step with sound science. Just check out the studies that have examined the wide range of complex experiences and feelings women have regarding abortion.

We have talked a lot about our concerns with Gov. Perry's record, but I assure you that we report the good and the bad. Gov. Perry has taken a couple of pro-choice actions. For example, Gov. Perry signed into law a measure that improves sex education for young people. And in 2003, he enacted a law ensuring that health plans that cover prescription medication also cover birth control. However, Perry effectively reversed this law two years later when he signed into law a measure allowing insurers to offer two health plans to employers--one plan that guarantees coverage of all mandated services, including contraception, and another that does not.

It would be interesting for reporters surrounding him in South Carolina, New Hampshire, and Iowa to ask him his thoughts on the Department of Health and Human Services' recent decision to accept medical experts' recommendation that insurance plans cover contraception without an additional copay.

A handful of pro-choice actions aside, the prospect of President Perry should make us very worried. He has made inflammatory statements indicating how he would govern as an anti-choice president, calling Roe v. Wade "a shameful footnote in our nation's history books" and "a stark reminder that our culture and our country are still in peril."

Let's not forget that the president has tremendous influence over reproductive-health policy in the United States. How much influence? See our publication, The Powers of the President: Reproductive Freedom and Choice.

As the 2012 campaign heats up, NARAL Pro-Choice America will continue to be your source for analysis of Gov. Perry and the other announced and potential Republican candidates.

For now, as the media hoopla surrounds Gov. Perry, we encourage Americans who value freedom and privacy to share this information with friends and family. It's never too early to take a look at the record of someone who wants to live in the White House.

http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/blog/2011/08/12/what-would-president-perry-mean-your-rights-ready-forced-ultrasound-other-violations
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Tue 23 Aug, 2011 12:00 am
What really gets my goat is that he is even more stupid than Bush but it looks like he has a chance to be the repub candidate for pres. If he is elected we can all be embarrassed!
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dlowan
 
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Reply Tue 23 Aug, 2011 12:26 am
@Thomas,
Thomas wrote:

Munich was his official primary residence from the 1923 putsch to his 1945 death. That's why the state of Bavaria ended up with the copyright to Mein Kampf. Munich was Hitler's hometown as much as San Diego is Calamity Jane's.


Home is where the Putsch is.

Am I wrong to capitalise it in German? It's a noun, right?

Maybe I can stop being embarrassed about Murdoch? He's been a Yank for yonks.
snood
 
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Reply Tue 23 Aug, 2011 12:33 am
I've heard it said that if he and Bush were from the same family, Bush would be talked about as "the smart one". Sca-rey!
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Lustig Andrei
 
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Reply Tue 23 Aug, 2011 01:03 am
@dlowan,
dlowan wrote:

Maybe I can stop being embarrassed about Murdoch? He's been a Yank for yonks.


Yeh and we've never forgiven you Aussies for wishing him on us.
dlowan
 
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Reply Tue 23 Aug, 2011 03:23 am
@Lustig Andrei,
Lustig Andrei wrote:

dlowan wrote:

Maybe I can stop being embarrassed about Murdoch? He's been a Yank for yonks.



Nah....whole world has to deal with your dumbest presidents....you owe us.

Mind you....Murdoch balances out a hell of a lot.

Yeh and we've never forgiven you Aussies for wishing him on us.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 23 Aug, 2011 08:54 am


Texas is embarrassed to have you as a resident... they want you to move to Kalifornia.
MMarciano
 
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Reply Tue 23 Aug, 2011 09:11 am
@H2O MAN,
It's spelled with a C.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 23 Aug, 2011 09:47 am
@MMarciano,
MMarciano wrote:

It's spelled with a C.


LOL!!

Thanks Mr. Green
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Tue 23 Aug, 2011 10:24 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:
Texas is embarrassed to have you as a resident

Let us know when you graduate from third grade.... we'll send you a propeller beanie.
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Pemerson
 
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Reply Tue 23 Aug, 2011 11:21 am
Perry is like a one-trick pony. Just because he travels to places like CA convincing failing businesses to relocate in TX, does he think he can do same for the U.S. & get businesses from people all over the world to relocate back to U.S.

Consider for a moment that those businesses are not failing.

Besides, Perry acts a little like that Blagovitch (bad name for spelling). You know, the big mouth former gov. of Illinois.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Tue 23 Aug, 2011 12:02 pm
@Pemerson,
Well now I am embarrassed because as an Illinoian I voted for him. But in deffence of my (intelligence?) Ryan was governor before him, also went to jail. Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed
roger
 
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Reply Tue 23 Aug, 2011 12:36 pm
@RABEL222,
It's okay. I don't think you get a lot of real choices up there.

I lived in Springfield (5 miles north, actually) in the late '60s, and on the way home I had to pass three billboards promoting Paul Powell, Secretary of State. Not campaign signs. These were "public service" announcements paid for by the state.

See, 40 years later, I still remember who was Secretary of State.
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chai2
 
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Reply Tue 23 Aug, 2011 12:53 pm
...my head and stomach hurt after watching that.

At 2:00 I'll tell you exactly what was Perry was thinking.

"Should I throw myself on the floor and pretend to have a seizure, or say 'I'm going to have diarrhea' and run off stage?"
 

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