Mis-information on Indian red rains

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There is a lot of mis-information on internet concerning the red rains in Kerala, India. The mis-information resulted from mis-identification of the material contained in the red rains. The mis-identification resulted from not knowing anatomy.

Example 1: The official report ( http://web.archive.org/web/20060613135746/http://www.geocities.com/iamgoddard/Sampath2001.pdf ) by the Indian government concluded the red rains primarily contained spores of a type of algae named Trentepohlia.

The spores of Trentepohlia are more or less round-shaped as shown in Fig. 6 ( Edit [Moderator]: Link removed ) of the official report. The round-shaped Trentepohlia spores in Fig. 6 resulted from cultivation. Those spores are different from many oblong particles in the original, uncultivated samples shown in Fig. 2 ( Edit [Moderator]: Link removed ). So, the red rain did not primarily contained spores of Trentepohlia.

Example 2: Figure 2 of the official report failed to recognize fossilized mammalian red blood cells ( Edit [Moderator]: Link removed ). They are fossilized, because they did not disintegrate even when they were heated to 300 degrees Centigrade ( Edit [Moderator]: Link removed & Fig. 4b at http://arxiv.org/ftp/astro-ph/papers/0310/0310120.pdf ). No living cells could stand the heating without disintegration.

More mis-information: Some people claimed the biological cells in the red rain could reproduce themselves at 300 degrees Centigrade. In fact, the red rains also contained relic fat cells and relic fat globules (lipid droplets), both of which contained lipids. Minute lipids could seep out of relic fat cells or relic fat globules when they were heated to 300 degrees C.

Concerning DNA, some people said there was no DNA while some people said DNA was possibly found in the red rain particles. Red blood cells and fat globules contain no DNA. White blood cells and fat cells do contain DNA. Since they were from Mars and billions of years old, their DNA could not be properly recognized.

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[+3] - rosborne979 - 08/05/2011Just because something looks like a red blood cell doesn't mean it's a red blood cell. Especially when they have been conclusively identified as something else.

@bewildered,

bewildered wrote:

Example 1: The official report ( http://web.archive.org/web/20060613135746/http://www.geocities.com/iamgoddard/Sampath2001.pdf ) by the Indian government concluded the red rains primarily contained spores of a type of algae named Trentepohlia.

The Study wrote:

Thus, the study has determined that
* he coloured rain in many parts of the state is due to the presence in rainwater
of significant quantities of coloured lichen-forming algal spores of local origin;
* no dust of meteoric, volcanic or desert origin is present in the rainwater;
* the colour of the rainwater is not due to any dissolved gases or pollutants.

If no meteoric was present then how did could the blood cells you imagine be from Mars.

It seems far more likely that the logic you are using, that one circular blob on a micrograph is the same as another circular blog on a micrograph simply because they are both circular blobs, is flawed... deeply, fatally, insanely flawed.

There are no red blood cells in any of the samples as you've claimed, zero, none. Mammals don't exist on Mars and never did, case closed, no doubt about it. Mammals originated on Earth as is perfectly obvious by their correspondence to the evolutionary pattern of Earth's biosphere. They could not have evolved anywhere else and they couldn't have survive anywhere else without a substantial portion of Earth's biosphere along with them.

And the Red Rains have been conclusively identified by people who actually looked at the samples and identified the spores with physical tests, not just photographs of "round things".

You need to come up with a better fantasy because this one is getting old. I suggest that you stick with the "we fly off to Mars every night in our sleep, but then can't remember is" fantasy because it doesn't require a shred of evidence, and evidence is obviously a weak spot for you.

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@rosborne979,

To the unrepentent evolutionist:
Indisputable red blood cell remains:
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@bewildered,

Just because something looks like a red blood cell doesn't mean it's a red blood cell. Especially when they have been conclusively identified as something else.

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@rosborne979,

To any unrepentant evolutionist:
What is it? A spore? Farmer's vesicle?

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@bewildered,

bewildered wrote:

To any unrepentant evolutionist:
What is it? A spore? Farmer's vesicle?

was that a joke? Good job kid. Humor is a good place to start on you recovery.

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@rosborne979,

Summers almost over, maybe he will be going back to school and he can learn more about the scientific method.

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@farmerman,

If he learns about Percival Lowell and the canals on mars we're all in big trouble Wink

Obviously the canals were needed to grow the crops to feed all the Martian Cows. It all makes so much sense.

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