@Robert Gentel,
Robert Gentel wrote:
Thomas wrote:I did, on the implicit assumption that the thieves' efforts were the major cost to account for. I'm quite happy to modify this assumption. Especially since I still believe you are raising fringe cases that don't happen enough to influence our general policies towards theft.
Honestly, I am not making an economic point about it. My position is that humans have evolved a
need for the concept of personal property, and a
need for personal space (of some size) and that violating it is itself objectionable, regardless of the value of the object, the effort involved in doing so etc.
The fringe examples were just to isolate whether you really felt that way, as I found it surprising.
I am certain that the crowded and isolated conditions of primitive peoples contributed a great deal to the bloodlust; and that their anxieties, frustrations, envy and avarice were turned against enemies so that it was no visited upon ones own community... It is certain that the obligations to community while essential and moral were also onerous... Given the opportunity, many people have often escaped their honorable responsibility... What people have always evolved with, and survived with, while difficult and demanding is society and community in one sort or another out of the need of survival... Some people are taking what they feel is their own survival out of the backs of their neighbors, and their own community, and only moral restraints at this point hold the people back from justice... The rich, counting on the form of law, and the form of morality to hold people back from bloody justice are destroying all of society and every community and burning through the resources of all of us because Capitalism and protestantism as ideologies justify their actions...Neither of these ideals is fit for consideration since each having no long term vision of mankind or time are unfit ideas to govern by... We may all desire are own, but for most of time known to social humans, defense of property was common, and all property was held in commonwealth... Look at the symbols of our country taken from the Roman commonwealth... The bundle of iron rods surrounding an axe was a symbol of united strength against the slaves of Rome which was her past enemies... Why they did not show a single rod is obvious... The single rod was easily bent, as the individual man was easily slain, or ruined... Nothing has so failed humanity as the notion of individualism... We want our own, and we support the aims of the rich who want their own; but what we want for all is the end of society which is to each their own protection... We want to be free of our obligation to society, to our communiites, or to define our communities as our immediate families so our obligation is meaningless... And this attitude which is the mental destruction of community brings about the physical destruction of community... We cannot hold our own against a world that wants what we have while so many see their own benefit in selling us and ours to enemies cheap...