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why fear death???

 
 
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jul, 2011 10:16 am
@JLNobody,
All living things are born to live, except certain of the defective ones. Our inate fear of the preditor is transferred to fear of death, because humans make associatiopns other animals cannot.
wayne
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jul, 2011 10:17 am
@CalamityJane,
Perhaps you're not remembering the first time, the excitement comes after they've been trained to expect good things.
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jul, 2011 11:03 am
@edgarblythe,
Dasein is right when he says that the avoidance of death (not its postponement) is an avoidance of life, because dying is a living act, our last living act. You say, Edgar, that all living things are born to live. That's right, but its also the case that--in a larger sense--we are all born to die. Indeed, death (after dying) is one of our ultimate, and except for suicides, unintended and unsought, goals. Trouble is we are never there to enjoy it.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jul, 2011 11:57 am
@JLNobody,
Well, it's too roundabout for me. I fail to concur. But, that's life - and death.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jul, 2011 12:13 pm
@wayne,
wayne wrote:
Aside from the fear of painful dying, we naturally fear the unknown, the dark, opaque waters.
Children always open their very first present with trepidation.
When I was a child, I never did that.





David
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Sturgis
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jul, 2011 01:12 pm
@hamilton,
Fear of death, no. Concerns of the unknown method of death, yes. Death is part of a natural progression.

In my last brush with death I was almost irrationally calm, I knew what might happen, I even had talks with people that I didn't expect to make it through, I wasn't in any way afraid of my time being up. That doesn't mean I ripped any tubes or I.V. limes out, just that I was ready if that was to be.

My bigger concern at the time was the milk in my refrigerator which was going to go bad, I asked a friend to get that out of there, which he did.


Milk going sour....terrible!

Death...well, it has to happen sometime, no need getting worked up over it.


Besides which, what if it turns out we're already dead and we're just getting ready to live?
JLNobody
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jul, 2011 05:15 pm
@Sturgis,
Interesting post, Sturgis. I really appreciate your phenomenological account of your concerns when facing the possibilities of dying--soured milk! Wonderfully real.
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jul, 2011 05:15 pm
@Sturgis,
Interesting post, Sturgis. I really appreciate your phenomenological account of your concerns when facing the possibilities of dying--soured milk! Wonderfully real.
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jul, 2011 05:16 pm
@Sturgis,
What is it the poem says? The hero dies but once, the coward a thousand times.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jul, 2011 06:32 pm
@Sturgis,
I have had several brushes with death and I concur. I reacted very matter of factly. No other reaction could have helped anyway.
JLNobody
 
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Reply Sun 17 Jul, 2011 09:31 pm
@edgarblythe,
I too seem to turn off emotionally when in a dangerous situation. It has great survival value. On the other hand, someone asked me once why most women automatically scream when they perceive danger. My guess was that it has survival value for their group. Their scream at the perception of danger alerts their group.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 18 Jul, 2011 01:32 am
@JLNobody,
JLNobody wrote:
I too seem to turn off emotionally when in a dangerous situation.
I also found that to be the case,
when someone was shooting at me. I found some mild humor in it
(as I was reaching for my revolver).
Churchill was right.



JLNobody wrote:
It has great survival value. On the other hand, someone asked me once why most women automatically scream when they perceive danger. My guess was that it has survival value for their group. Their scream at the perception of danger alerts their group.
a distress signal
hamilton
 
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Reply Wed 20 Jul, 2011 02:48 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
i guess that with that mind set, you have no fear of anything...
are you the green lantern?
(that wasnt serious.)
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hamilton
 
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Reply Wed 20 Jul, 2011 02:53 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

Quote:
why fear death???
There is no reason to fear it.
Do not confuse your meatsuit with your self, your being, your consciousness.

People whose meatsuits have stopped functioning (e.g. heart attacks)
for a while, such that thay got out of them (like a motorist whose engine has stalled)
have lost all fear of so-called "death".

Death is a fake (tho its a quick way to lose weight),
but we shoud have fun with our meatsuits as long as possible.

www.IANDS.org



David

Setanta wrote:

Seeing that you're sinking into an even greater incoherence than you normally display, i'll leave you to jack off by yourself.

now i see that setanta was just watching out for me, lol...
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 20 Jul, 2011 09:10 pm
@JLNobody,
To me, the scream's the same as the noise made by a bird alerting other birds of a human's approach.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 21 Jul, 2011 09:36 am
@hamilton,
Quote:
why fear death???
Presumably, anyone who has had an out-of-body excarnate experience
knows that there is no reason to fear the dysfunction of the deciduous human body.





David
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Thu 21 Jul, 2011 05:01 pm
@hamilton,
Death is not a quick way to lose weight; it is, however, a quick way to make weight meaningless or irrelevant. A quick way to lose weight is amputation.
JLNobody
 
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Reply Thu 21 Jul, 2011 05:02 pm
@JLNobody,
David, the reason some people deny death--as you plainly do--is because they fear it.
hamilton
 
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Reply Thu 21 Jul, 2011 05:03 pm
@JLNobody,
haha!
living a good life is a good way to gain it.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 21 Jul, 2011 07:27 pm
@JLNobody,
JLNobody wrote:
David, the reason some people deny death--as you plainly do--is because they fear it.
I deny its existence; I don t fear it.
I know that I do not depend for my life upon my deciduous human body,
from having exited it and observed from the outside, several times
and I know other folks who have done the same; no big deal.





David
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