Leftist attack on the US Constitution

@Setanta,

Setanta wrote:

Too late . . . you stepped on your dick (yet again) and there's no way out of it . . .

That is impossible... His legs could not possibly be as short as his sight...

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@Setanta,

Setanta wrote:

Is anyone supposed to care?

Everyone is supposed to Care, and Love; whatever the difference may be between the two... I think it is natural for humans...

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@Fido,

I think you Foofe and waterman are three of a kind. My post was to Foofe, not you. And the three of you dont express yourselves in a rational manner.

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@H2O MAN,

If the Founding Fathers worked tirelessly against slavery, how does Bachmann explain that the constitution they wrote did not abolish it? And who does she think was on the pro-slavery side of the three-fifths compromise of 1787? Not the Founding Fathers, obviously.

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@Thomas,

It was the libruls . . . them libruls done it while nobody was lookin' . . .

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@Setanta,

Did you watch the Stepanopulous footage? It's hilarious that Gungasnake would think it supports the case he's trying to make for Bachmann. "We are trying to take our country back!" Stepanopulous: "Who from?" Bachmann: "From people all over the nation!" Sure, that's a succinct and candid summary of the Republican agenda. But how is fessing up to it supposed to help Bachmann's campaign?

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@Thomas,

Well, i would suppose that it helps her with people wo don't do cricial thinking. (Yes, i watched the interview, although it took me four tries . . . it war really hard to stay focused on the drivel she was babbling.) At one time, the Big Lie was making someone else the enemy, and the enemy at the gate--the Jews, the Slavs, the Germans, take your pick. But now the political exploiters have come to realize that you don't even need to have anyone real to identify as the enemy. Just make it up. The libruls, the multinational capitalists, the Ay-rabs--you can't just make the enemy up, tell your terrified consituency that they aren't at the gates, they are among us as i speak--and you're in business. The Big Lie has grown up.

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How very American: The Big Lie has been supersized! That's something to think about in this July-4th week.

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Ya gotta love practical politics.

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@Thomas,

It's a shame that you aren't smart enough to figure this out on your own.

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@H2O MAN,

I don't know, but perhaps - since you don't ignore him totally - Thomas is just another of your own three-fifths humans?

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@Foofie,

Foofie wrote:

... Have you become the prototype of an "international poster"? The word "international" could have negative connotations in the minds of some?

Are you confusing "international" with "cosmopolitan"? How could you do that, given you're always on the lookout for potentially antisemitic remarks?

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@Fido,

Fido wrote:

... Honor is the essential element of a happy life for a person as it is for the life of a nation... Justice is an essential element of honor, the williness to give as we get fairly to demand and deliver what all deserve and need... This is a land without honor or justice, and of consequence it knows little happiness and much pain, and that pain which has been chronic is growing and spreading and will kill us if we cannot deliver ourselves from the failed constitution and raise ourselves to a new form of mutual existence... I do not think we will all get there...

It seems that "honor" is used here as though the concept is a real, not a man made concept. It was "honor" that caused Southern gentleman to meet on the lawn of a courthouse at dawn and duel with pistols. It is honor that causes middle eastern families to kill a female relative. It is honor that causes fights.

We really have no honor, other than the honor we make up in our heads. I say this because the use of the phrase, "I was disrespected" is just clipped talk for "My honor was disrespected." And, to "regain" one's honor, one may think it is correct to start all sorts of mayhem, be it people or countries (i.e., Nazi Germany).

Anyway, honor is an artificial construct, just like race is an artificial construct. But, that's not saying there aren't many people that subscribe to your thinking, even on the right side of the bellcurve.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter, can you show us evidence that '3/5th human' is mentioned in the US constitution?

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@H2O MAN,

H2O MAN wrote:

Walter, can you show us evidence that '3/5th human' is mentioned in the US constitution?

No. As far as I know, it's in the National Archives, Washington, D.C.

But "three-fifths" is a term, connected to the Philadelphia Convention of 1787 ...
And there, "all other persons" can be counted as these three-fifths.

Of course, I'm not as educated in US-history as you are and can be totally wrong.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter - there's the 13th Amendment, as you know, and then there's the much-abused 14th. The 13th was passed in a hurry and may yet be amended in view of the vast numbers of illegals having children born here (not a consideration at the time, but very much a consideration now). The 14th isn't worth the parchment it was written on, considering that vast numbers of former members of "we the people" have turned it into farce by claiming federal rights for homosexuals, handicapped, blacks, hispanics, mentally unbalanced, even obese, all of them being more equal than the rest us who remain just plain equal.

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@Walter Hinteler,

He's being his usual clownish self, Walter. The Constitution says "person," not human, although i seriously doubt that he ever knew that. In Article One, Section Two ("The House"), the third paragraph began with the following sentence: Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons. Of course, this was modified by the 14th amendment. So it doesn't say "three fifths of a human," it says "three fifths of all other Persons."

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@Setanta,

The wording is exactly as you say, of course - but I always understood "all other persons" to mean "anyone human who lives and breathes", i.e. including children, women, blacks, but not Indians, who were counted under a separate census until much later. Possibly my understanding is mistaken? Thanks!

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@High Seas,

Yes, you are mistaken, as women and children who were not black were included under the rubric of "free Persons."

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@Setanta,

That's exactly what I wrote, excuse me for the repetition, but it's important:

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i.e. including children, women, blacks, but not Indians

These are four distinct categories as written - blacks and Indians being generic.

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