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Another Sad Day or my Home State of Illinois

 
 
Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2011 01:36 pm
Quote:
Chicago (CNN) -- Former Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich was convicted Monday on 17 of the 20 public corruption charges against him.
The jury acquitted Blagojevich on one count of bribery and was unable to reach verdicts on two counts of attempted extortion.
The charges against Blagojevich included trying to peddle the U.S. Senate seat held by Barack Obama before he resigned to become president. Blagojevich has denied any intention of bribery.
Last August, after a two-month trial and 14 days of deliberation, jurors deadlocked on 23 of the 24 charges Blagojevich had faced. They found him guilty on one count of lying to FBI investigators, a conviction that could carry a prison sentence of five years.
The accusation that Blagojevich tried to profit as he considered whom to appoint to succeed Obama, among other allegations, prompted his impeachment by Illinois' House of Representatives and his removal from office by the state Senate in 2009.
Ten of the counts against him in the current trial are wire fraud. The other 10 involve extortion and bribery. Most of the counts have a maximum penalty of 20 years in prison.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/06/27/blagojevich.trial/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
I think Illinois would have to make anyone's top three list of dysfunctional American states, the large number of recent Governors to become convicts is just one of many reasons to count my home state at the top of the list.
 
Ragman
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2011 01:50 pm
@hawkeye10,
Stand in line with NY State, Tenn, Tex, FL, NJ and Massachusetts. Over a period of time, they've each taken their turns at the top/bottom of the corruption list.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2011 01:54 pm
@Ragman,
You have to count California on account of the complete breakdown of the political system there, and the outrageous flights of fancy of their budgets over the last few decades. Louisiana is a contender as well over decades.
Arella Mae
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2011 01:59 pm
@hawkeye10,
Here in Louisiana, we have what is known as "Louisiana Politics". I'm not real sure what all of that entails but I can tell you that part of it is known criminals are elected as governor and KKK members have run for office.
engineer
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2011 02:19 pm
@Arella Mae,
I think the difference is that is Il. they prosecute their governors while in La. they celebrate how long they can stay ahead of the FBI.
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2011 02:20 pm
@hawkeye10,
Can anyone name a state anywhere which isn't rife with corruption in politics?

For that matter, are there any politicians who appear to be untouched by the usual array of bad behavior and corruption?

Who are our "Cleanest" politicians? And who's next to have the biggest fall from grace?
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2011 02:21 pm
@Arella Mae,
And Louisiana is also a state where gross incompetents get elected mayor of what was in the 2000 census the 31st largest American city...the same guy also seems ready to be fitted with a tin foil hat..

Quote:
Among the more shocking revelations is the former mayor’s account of the evening of Aug. 30, 2005. Nagin writes that he and his top aides were in the Hyatt’s fourth-floor command center when about 20 men entered, “dressed in black combat outfits and adorned in bulletproof vests, rifles, and leg straps holding at least two very large handguns each.
“Their presence was shocking, menacing, bizarre, and surreal,” he writes, adding that one barked out: “‘We’re here to protect the mayor. Everybody else get out.’”
The armed men wouldn’t say who sent them or why, though Nagin surmises they may have worked for mega-defense contractor Blackwater. “If they were here to protect me, I sure did not feel that as my gut told me there was another agenda at play, and it clearly did not have our best interests at heart, period,” he writes.
The guards managed to access Nagin’s 27th-floor suite and install “all kinds of wires” they claimed were “for a satellite connection.” Ultimately, though, their efforts were thwarted when “Greg (Meffert) and crew stopped (them) cold,” Nagin writes, referring to his former chief technology officer.
“And after several rounds of going back and forth, our unwelcome visitors got the message that we were not going to allow them to take over or gain access to my room to plant bugging devices.”
Nagin also worried about becoming a target of sinister forces after his famous Sept. 1, 2005, rant on WWL-AM, which the former mayor writes was prompted by reports that Blanco and U.S. Sens. Mary Landrieu and David Vitter had bragged “about how well things were going,” even as evacuees continued to suffer at the Superdome and Convention Center.
“I thought to myself, ‘I’m a dead man! I have just publicly denounced the governor, U.S. Senators, FEMA and the president of the United States,’” he writes. “I started wondering if during the night I would be visited by specially trained CIA agents. Could they secretly shoot me with a miniature, slow-acting poison dart?
“As my dad often told me, ‘Be careful your mouth doesn’t write a check your butt can’t cash.’ I was convinced my mouth had just gotten me into a whole lot of trouble,” he writes.
Nagin admits he also suffered pangs of paranoia on the Monday after the storm, when he visited the USS Iwo Jima, an amphibious assault ship that docked near the Ernest N. Morial Convention Center and served as a base of federal operations.
There, he was escorted to an infirmary where two medical staffers “had orders to examine me and give me shots.”
“I was still a little paranoid and again started imagining a secret CIA plot where in six months I would be gone,” he writes. “After thinking for a minute, I said to them, ‘Okay, you can give me shots, but I want you to do the same for my two security guys.’
“My thinking was it would have been easier to spin that stress ultimately took me out, but it would be much harder to explain all three of us suddenly dying mysteriously,” writes Nagin, who said during Wednesday’s briefing that his sense of suspicion abated shortly after his visit to the ship
http://www.nola.com/katrina/index.ssf/2011/06/in_his_newly_released_book_for.html

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JPB
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2011 02:26 pm
@rosborne979,
That was basically Rod's defense.
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Linkat
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2011 02:32 pm
@hawkeye10,
As misery loves company - just look at this:


Former Massachusetts House Speaker Salvatore DiMasi, convicted by a federal jury Wednesday in a scheme to steer two state contracts worth $17.5 million to a software firm in exchange for payments, is weighing his next moves as he awaits sentencing.

DiMasi, a Democrat who resigned in January 2009, was the third consecutive House speaker to leave office under an ethics cloud.

Our third - and this is only this particular one position....I can list many more.
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JPB
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2011 03:06 pm
Blago says he's "stunned".

I'm sure he is.
Linkat
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2011 03:19 pm
@JPB,
They all are - no different than our recent trial in MA - many feel they are above the law and are shell shocked to find - nope, they can be held accountable as well.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2011 03:19 pm
@JPB,
JPB wrote:

Blago says he's "stunned".

I'm sure he is.
He has always seemed to me to be only loosely connected to reality, I wish I had been paying attention back when he was elected so that I would know how the citizens of Illinois came to figure he was the guy for the job. We used to pride ourselves on electing practical people like Mayor Daley (the original) and Gov Jim Thompson, so how has Illinois come to this I wonder??
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Ragman
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2011 11:11 pm
@rosborne979,
Nebraska gov't weighs in pretty cleanly.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2011 11:39 pm
@hawkeye10,
Gov. Rod Blagojevich is a liberal, anti-gun freedom person.

Will HE now get LESS freedom ??


Maybe he will find the gun control rules more to his liking, where he is going.
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jun, 2011 12:06 am
Well, Illinois will soon have the distinction of being the only state in which two consecutive elected governors are simultaneously serving time in prison following conviction for bribes and corruption in that office.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jun, 2011 12:34 am
@georgeob1,
georgeob1 wrote:

Well, Illinois will soon have the distinction of being the only state in which two consecutive elected governors are simultaneously serving time in prison following conviction for bribes and corruption in that office.
That is something, but not as impressive as it sounds...Rod is the fourth Governor from my state to head to prison for fraud and/or corruption during my lifetime.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jun, 2011 02:28 am
@georgeob1,
georgeob1 wrote:
Well, Illinois will soon have the distinction of being the only state in which two consecutive elected governors are simultaneously serving time in prison following conviction for bribes and corruption in that office.
Maybe thay can put them in the same cage together, to discuss local politics.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jun, 2011 12:00 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

I think Illinois would have to make anyone's top three list of dysfunctional American states, the large number of recent Governors to become convicts is just one of many reasons to count my home state at the top of the list.

WE'RE NUMBER ONE! WE'RE NUMBER ONE!
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jun, 2011 12:27 pm

Will Gov. Rod Blagojevich still have his armed security detail to protect him ?

If HE applies for a gun license,
will he be eligible for a gun, now that he has been convicted of felonies ??
RABEL222
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jun, 2011 12:53 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
We have achieved political parity. We now have an equal number of Illinois republicans and democrates who have been convicted of crimes. Most of whom are from the Chicago area.
 

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