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Structures of Skeletal Muscle Fibers Found in Meteorite NWA 998

 
 
farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jun, 2011 05:56 am
@bewildered,
you seem to dig yourself deeper into a hole that needs even more extraordinary levels of evidence. What is your evidence of these Billions of years old beings on Mars?? Being geo centered aint bad because we develop a train of logical evidence that concludes what we know. You seem to start with wild assertions that require more and more "buy-in" to some )shall I say/) fairy tale?
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bewildered
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jun, 2011 02:31 am
@rosborne979,
You are blinder than the blind who knows there exist many things that he cannot see.

"So any claim of mammalian life on Mars carries with it the requirement for whole ecosystems to have existed for hundreds of millions of years (just as on Earth). Yet Bewildered only sees mammalian blood and muscle in every meteorite looks at. Where are the plants and insects and microorganisms and everything else that needs to exist in order to support those mammals... why didn't any of that fossilize?"

Without further evidence, you will delay the progress of science by refusing to accept the fact that non-minerals have been found. It's useless trying to delay your entry into hell.

farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jun, 2011 03:46 am
@bewildered,
Quote:
Without further evidence, you will delay the progress of science by refusing to accept the fact that non-minerals have been found. It's useless trying to delay your entry into hell.
None of the above is factual

"Real science" pursues evidence as the only mens of verification. Your "ripping yarns" are just the product of a befuddled mind

Your evidence that your photos depict "non minerals" is sloppy third grade fantasy

Finally, Just because one heavily questions your veracity, threatening entry into a place whose existence is dubious , exemplifies how removed from real science and theology your stories are.

bewildered
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jun, 2011 03:58 am
@farmerman,
Identify the structures and shut up.
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jun, 2011 04:10 am
@bewildered,
Ive already commented to you with many points of departure and youve only denied the facts of evidence that mineral inclusions in your photos are feldspathic minerals thus indicative of igneous mineralization. Youve failed to see the connection because your science abilities arent sophisticated enough to allay our questions. Its up to you to prove as best as you can the origin and chemical makeup of your own "evidence" .All youve been doing is yelling "No No NO, IM right and youre wrong". Youre photos are NOT compelling , there is evidence that the micrographs of your slabs are actually rock and finally, youve not been willing to look at the falsification process for your own work. Its critical that you be able to defend this to close scrutiny and youre not doing a very good job.
rosborne979
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jun, 2011 05:46 am
@bewildered,
bewildered wrote:
Without further evidence, you will delay the progress of science by refusing to accept the fact that non-minerals have been found.

But non-minerals have not been found. The evidence you have presented is unconvincing and your conclusions completely irrational.
bewildered
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jun, 2011 09:23 am
@farmerman,
That's cheap talk, not identification that needs to be backed up with evidence of micrograph you never showed.
Stop kidding me that I need to prove the origin and chemistry of those muscle fibers.
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bewildered
 
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Reply Sat 9 Jul, 2011 03:38 am
@rosborne979,
Clear evidence that no minerals match the Martian muscle fiber reamins:
Edit [Moderator]: Link removed

No amount of evidence can convince fools or the die-hard.
wayne
 
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Reply Sat 9 Jul, 2011 06:33 am
@bewildered,
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No amount of evidence can convince fools or the die-hard.


Finally something sensible
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farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2011 02:02 pm
@bewildered,
  http://f4.wretch.yimg.com/lin440315/28/1176846306.jpg?vMAoy6BDdRHHUlGWz21YbyOI4F5oB1cxENNS4Z8ki.GnpIRiCngV6mhubCDBBWUAG7nD

You are an idiot BEwildered. Hers one of your "Muscle cell" micrographs. Obviously itn not yours cause its a "Thin Section" cut at about 35 microns and plated incorrectly (its a glue wedge where one side actually rises up). The slide demponstrates several issues that are unioque to PLAGIOCLASES

1Habit of the crystal masses (they abut each other at specific angles)
2Twinning under cross nichols-The color absorption of light under the nichols prism shows us polarized light effects
3EXTINCTION, when [o;arized light is absorbed by one crstal plane, its twin is reflecting. Notice how pwerfect the stripes are, thats a habit feature of several "solid solution" twin mionerals

4INCLUSIONS-We can see that the plagioclase is inserted "in between" a matrix of another mineral (Im gonna assume that its quartz because the thicknesses are off and the color for quartz should be gray and white). Since when do muscle fibers even look so included and angular?

The funny thing about this is that the very technique you are trying to convince yourself about is the very same trick that Rosalin Franklin and Watson and Crick used to determine DNA's structure (when DNA was dry as a cryustal)

Youve got crystals of plagioclase here, not "muscle fibres", thats something that Id send to any reasonable scientist in the woreld and he or she would laugh at you.
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2011 02:15 pm
@farmerman,
It posted really well at first but then his mike slide disappeared . Well.you can see the first example of "Muscle fibers" on his slides and can see that the stuff is a rock. .
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2011 02:16 pm
@farmerman,
       http://f4.wretch.yimg.com/lin440315/28/1176846306.jpg?FmAg4k5DdRGBxkamsRzV5iy452WmaGYSl.rrZZVCJkWEcfllRjZkWCmZfCCI4ijy6or7
rosborne979
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2011 07:04 pm
@farmerman,
Your image links aren't working for some reason. Perhaps the spirits of Mars are suppressing your input.
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2011 07:07 pm
@rosborne979,
I know, the damn things post ok, then, in about 30 min, they diswappear.
You cansee his slide work. (They arent his cause they are thin sections and he doesnt understand about sucj stuff). Go to his link and then in the link go to the first one that says "Muscle fibre" slide. Its a plagioclase, All the "Msucle stria hes harping about are "extinction lines" and Im amazed at how his head wont recognize something that angular and strait is organic.
rosborne979
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2011 07:17 pm
@farmerman,
Thanks FM, but I don't really need to see the images. Bewildered has a pattern of assuming that anything circular is a cell and anything linear is a muscle fiber. The only "evidence" he's ever presented for anything is based on similarity of appearance. If science were that simple then clouds could be floating bunnies.
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