HAS OBAMA ANTAGONIZED, ALIENATED THE JEWISH VOTE ?

The "world" can't come together to get fed up with Iran, Zimbabwe, China 0r The Sudan, but you expect them to do so around Israel?

In the end, it doesn't matter what the UN declares...if it doesn't suit Israel, they will not comply...nor should they.

I don't think you truly "love" Israel.

I truly love my children and I will save my criticism of them for private exchanges, and I will never, ever, provide their enemies with anything that might be construed as support.

You are not required to love Israel, but if you lay claim to that connection than you should be able to substantiate it. In this thread, you have not.

target of true genocidal intentions for centuries

I am against the annihilation of any peoples including the palistinians. The jewish state has been and is now a terriost state. Check history, not the christian version that wants a jewish state so the rapture can commence. And you have thrown up the straw man "racism" arguement again. Why cant you be honest about the killing going on over there.




10 pals for every 1 Jew the last time I checked the data.

The "right of return" is really all about demographics, not justice. Allow an influx of fecund Arabs with the same rights as Jews, and before long, Israel will have changed it's name to Palestine, it's citizens will either be leaving, or suffering, and it will be yet another pathetic ME swamp.

Not to suggest there are racist, Muslim states out there. . . .

Unless a lot changes between now and then the world will vote to create a Palestinian state this September and this puts additional pressure on Israel in many ways. If you don't believe it google "diplomatic tsunami" as it is something that the Israelis are using to refer to what they see as something that will isolate them further. Right now Israel is working very hard to prevent this vote for a reason.

Doocy Falsely Claims Obama Is The "First American President" To "Suggest" Two-State Solution "Based On" 1967 Borders "With Mutually Agreed Swaps"

From the May 20 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:

PRESIDENT OBAMA: The United States believes that negotiations should result in two states with permanent Palestinian borders, with Israel, Jordan and Egypt and permanent Israeli borders with Palestine. We believe the borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states.

DOOCY: Now, here's why a lot of critics of the president say you've got to be kidding us. That essentially, what he's saying is for Israel and Palestine to determine their borders based on what things were like back in 1967, that's what the Palestinians have been asking for all along. He is the first American president to do just that, to suggest that. We've got some graphics to show you what it would mean. First of all, this shows you what Israel looks like right now. OK? Well, under the Obama plan which he is suggesting that they implement, as you could see right there, it would go back to the 1967 days where they would be combined, but the problem is if you combine and Charles Krauthammer talks a little bit about this in one of his columns today. If you were to combine Gaza with the West Bank and the president talked about it being contiguous, you would probably have to split Israel in two. [Fox News, Fox & Friends, 5/20/11]


In Fact, Bush Publically Stated in 2005 That Changes To The 1967 Border "Must Be Mutually Agreed To"

In 2005, Bush Stated: "Any Final Status Agreement Must Be Reached Between The Two Parties, And Changes To The 1949 Armistice Lines Must Be Mutually Agreed To." From Bush's statement during a May 26, 2005, press conference with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas:

Any final status agreement must be reached between the two parties, and changes to the 1949 Armistice Lines must be mutually agreed to. A viable two-state solution must ensure contiguity on the West Bank, and a state of scattered territories will not work. There must also be meaningful linkages between the West Bank and Gaza. This is the position of the United States today; it will be the position of the United States at the time of final status negotiations.

The imminent Israeli disengagement from Gaza, parts of the West Bank, presents an opportunity to lay the groundwork for a return to the roadmap. All parties have a responsibility to make this hopeful moment in the region a new and peaceful beginning. That is why I assigned General Kip Ward, who is with us today, to support your efforts, Mr. President, to reform the Palestinian security services and to coordinate the efforts of the international community to make that crucial task a success. The United States also strongly supports the mission of the Quartet's special envoy, Jim Wolfensohn, to make sure that the Gaza disengagement brings Palestinians a better life.

The Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs refers to the pre-1967 borders between Israel and Palestine as the "1949-1967 Armistice Lines." [Press Conference with Presidents Bush and Abbas, 5/26/05; Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs, accessed 5/19/11]

Almost certainly, the United Nations General Assembly will vote in September to grant statehood to Palestine, thus legally removing it from Israeli authority. Almost every U.N. member will vote “aye.” Israel will reject the vote because such a Palestinian state would include half a million Israeli settlers living there unprotected. The United States cannot void the statehood resolution because its veto applies only to U.N. Security Council decisions.

I don't know what exactly you mean when you say that pinning the 9/11 attacks on our support of Israel is ridiculous,
but one of the three motives explicitly stated by the 9/11 attackers was the US's support of Israel.

Does the whole thing hinge on Hamas openly stating they recognize Israel's right to exist.

Can the vote pass even though the US vetoes it?

Yeah, I agree with Finn.

Pinning the 9/11 attacks on our support of Israel is ridiculous,

Can a Democrat candidate survive without Jewish support ?