coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sat 24 May, 2014 04:08 pm
@georgeob1,
Quote:
As I recall you were the most tiresome bore on ABUZZ. I had hoped you had gone forever. Isn't there something else to distract you out there?

Nailed it. http://www.acidpulse.net/images/smilies/lolol.gif
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wmwcjr
 
  1  
Sat 24 May, 2014 05:47 pm
@coldjoint,
If this were true, it would be an absolute disgrace! In fact, I'm inclined to believe that it is true. If it isn't true, someone needs to present proof to the contrary.
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wmwcjr
 
  1  
Sat 24 May, 2014 05:52 pm
@georgeob1,
To be fair, judging from the close-minded, confrontational attitude of so many of the longtime members of this forum, I'm sure there were many "tiresome bores" from ABUZZ who ended up here; and I'm referring to individuals on both sides of the ideological divide. But not necessarily you, georgeob1! Smile
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Sat 24 May, 2014 06:21 pm
@wmwcjr,
Rather than talking about the people, how about providing an opinion of the topic under discussion, and why you believe your opinion is superior?

Some people always provide opinion without any basis in fact or reliable source.

I'm open to discuss any issue, but not with brainless parrots who repeat nonsense and bull shyt.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sat 24 May, 2014 07:07 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
but not with brainless parrots who repeat nonsense and bull shyt.


Ironic.
bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Sat 24 May, 2014 07:34 pm
@coldjoint,
That would create a very weak Congress where no one understands how it works. You want term limits? Vote your bastard out.
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sat 24 May, 2014 07:34 pm
Quote:
Let’s be honest, the VA scandal is really about government healthcare rationing


Obamacare will be the same.

Quote:
Look, if you don’t think this is coming to Obamacare, you should think again. No, the government doesn’t own the hospitals (yet) like they do with the VA, but make no mistake, there will be rationing. There must be. There is no alternative.

So, yes. Be outraged that this sort of thing happened to the good men and women of the armed forces. But be even more outraged that it will soon be forced upon the rest of us too.


http://poorrichardsnews.com/post/86483097448/lets-be-honest-the-va-scandal-is-really-about#sthash.hR7Wa5XI.uxfs
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bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Sat 24 May, 2014 07:37 pm
@georgeob1,
You don't know who I am. The point is as vet (something who you think I am couldn't be.- wrong country, wrong continent) I am a member of a single payer plan with VA, and ACA is an insurance scheme administered by private insurance companies. BIIIIIIIG difference.
bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Sat 24 May, 2014 07:40 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Ironic.


In that you resemble that remark, asshat?
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sat 24 May, 2014 07:44 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
You don't know who I am.


Never stopped you from hurling accusations, has it? Maybe George has a source, like you do, that has informed him all about you.
http://www.acidpulse.net/images/smilies/gdkifmqq.gif
bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Sat 24 May, 2014 07:54 pm
@coldjoint,
Maybe he's as misinformed as you are stupid. Nah. Nobody's THAT misinformed.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Sat 24 May, 2014 08:35 pm

Veterans Groups Slam GOP Effort To Tie Iran Sanctions To Their Benefits Bill
Posted: 02/26/2014 6:02 pm EST Updated: 02/26/2014 6:59 pm EST
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WASHINGTON -- Two top veterans groups have come out against a Senate GOP effort to insert an Iran sanctions amendment into an unrelated veterans bill, putting the party at odds with a constituency that leans Republican.

"Iran is a serious issue that Congress needs to address, but it cannot be tied to S. 1982, which is extremely important as our nation prepares to welcome millions of U.S. military servicemen and women home from war," said American Legion National Commander Daniel Dellinger in a Wednesday statement, referring to the veterans benefits measure introduced by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.). "We can deal with Iran -- or any other issue unrelated specifically to veterans -- with separate legislation."

Though officially nonpartisan, the American Legion is known for having more-conservative, older members. NPR reported that legion members hearing from Mitt Romney in 2012 were "not an Obama-friendly crowd."

The Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America offered a similar sentiment against linking Iran sanctions on Tuesday:

The Senate should not get distracted while debating & voting on the #vets bill. Iran sanctions, Obamacare, etc. aren’t relevant to S. 1982.

— IAVA (@iava) February 25, 2014

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) are leading the GOP push for new Iran sanctions. On Tuesday, Burr said that he wanted to put Iran sanctions language into a Republican amendment to the Sanders bill.

"It's important to Republicans and Democrats to have a vote on the Iran sanctions initiative," Burr said Tuesday.

On Wednesday, he pointed out another reason to add Iran sanctions to the veterans measure. "It happens to be a vehicle that might leave the United States Senate, and therefore it is an appropriate vehicle," he said.

Representatives for Burr and McConnell did not immediately return requests for comment about the veterans groups' opposition.

But Sanders also opposes adding Iran sanctions to his legislation.

"What does Iran sanctions have to do with the veterans bill? And it has nothing to do with the veterans law. That's the simple truth," he said on CNN Wednesday.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Sat 24 May, 2014 09:18 pm

News >
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Some states opting out of federal prison rape law
By REBECCA BOONE, Associated Press | May 23, 2014 | Updated: May 23, 2014 6:41pm

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BOISE, Idaho (AP) — Several states are refusing to comply with a federal law designed to reduce sexual assaults in prison, with governors criticizing the decade-old law as counterproductive and too expensive to implement.

The governors of Idaho, Texas, Indiana, Utah and Arizona have informed U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder that they won't try to meet the standards required under the Prison Rape Elimination Act. Governors were required to certify by May 15 that their states either met the standards designed to curb widespread sexual abuse behind bars, or to promise that they were actively working toward that goal.

"Idaho supports the spirit and intention of PREA and the National PREA Standards, but a law with good intent has evolved into a law with too much red tape," Idaho Gov. C.L. "Butch" Otter wrote in a letter to Holder sent five days after the deadline. It would cost the state millions of dollars to meet some of the standards, Otter said, and he believed the cost would have little ultimate benefit. Besides, the governor said, the state has taken substantial steps to reduce sexual victimization in correctional facilities.

Texas Gov. Rick Perry told Holder in April that his state wouldn't comply because the rules were too costly and violated states' rights. Perry's letter also encouraged other states to reject the federal law, and said that instead, his state would continue the programs it already has to reduce prison rapes. Perry's spokesman Rich Parsons said Friday that Perry sent a subsequent letter last week to Holder, contending that some PREA standards are in conflict with Texas state laws.

Brenda Smith, a former commissioner on the National Prison Rape Elimination Commission which helped create the PREA standards, said the decision by some states to opt out is shameful.

"These are not some high falutin', unreachable standards. These are things that are constitutional, based on best practices that have been determined in the field and in the courts," Smith said. "As a state you can move over to the sidelines, but people in custody don't get to move over to the sidelines. Providing them safety from sexual abuse is the minimum we can do."

At least 10 more states — Alaska, New York, Ohio, California, Washington, Oklahoma, West Virginia, Colorado, Mississippi and Illinois — have said that they can't meet all the requirements yet, but are actively working toward that goal. New Mexico says it's fully compliant with the law.

Leaders of Just Detention International, an organization that works to end sexual abuse in detention facilities, said they were encouraged that most states are working toward PREA compliance.

"We want actual certifications to be meaningful, so states should certify only when they know that they are in full compliance," said the organization's executive director Lovisa Stannow in a prepared statement. "Until then, the Department of Justice must strictly monitor states to ensure that they are using their federal funds appropriately. No state should be meeting its five percent financial commitment by diverting funds away from essential inmate services like rape crisis counseling - doing so would run counter to the intent of PREA."

The Prison Rape Elimination Act was passed unanimously by Congress in 2003. The next several years were spent developing PREA standards, and in 2012 those rules went into effect. The Department of Justice is expected to publish a list of PREA-compliant states by September.

The major provisions of PREA are designed to change the culture of prisons to one that has zero tolerance for sexual victimization; to change prison facilities so that there are fewer opportunities for rape to occur; and to change reporting policies so that inmates have a safe way to report a crime and a safe place to go if they are sexually victimized.

The law's only enforcement mechanism is a partial loss of grant funding. States that don't comply with PREA can lose up to 5 percent of the federal grant money they receive for corrections. States can keep the money if they promise to use it to come into compliance with the law.

The potential human impact is huge: The Department of Justice says that at least 216,000 of U.S. prisoners were raped or sexually abused behind bars in 2011, and cautions that the number is likely low, because prison rapes are seldom reported. The ACLU estimates that about 2 million people have been raped or sexually abused behind bars since PREA was enacted by Congress.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sat 24 May, 2014 10:36 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
Several states are refusing to comply with a federal law designed to reduce sexual assaults in prison,


Who cares? It should be viewed as a deterrent. The fact that prison is horrible in no coincidence. If you wish to treat them like kings send them to Gitmo.
RexRed
 
  1  
Sun 25 May, 2014 09:15 am
@bobsal u1553115,
I think these Prison Rape Elimination Act standards and perhaps many more need to be enforced.
bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Sun 25 May, 2014 09:53 am
@coldjoint,
You are an asshole.
bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Sun 25 May, 2014 09:57 am
@RexRed,
And enforced to the letter of the law. Rape is cruel and inhumane treatment, especially if the state raises it hands and say there's nothing they can do about it because the history is they will do nothing about it. And before it was an unofficial over looking of reality, and now its willful and knowing and on purpose. Its a depraved indifference to the victims and the law and the Bill of Rights.
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sun 25 May, 2014 10:35 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
You are an asshole.


No, that would be Eric Holder, more worried about criminals than the victims. The prison system is exactly where he belongs bent over in Bubbas cell.
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sun 25 May, 2014 10:37 am
@RexRed,
Quote:
I think these Prison Rape Elimination Act standards and perhaps many more need to be enforced.


You could offer your services on visiting day. That might cut back on some of it.http://www.acidpulse.net/images/smilies/rofl1.gif
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sun 25 May, 2014 10:46 am


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Obama’s Staggering Record of Failure

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The same story could be said of the Obama presidency on issue after issue, in foreign policy and on domestic matters. The lofty expectations and grand pronouncements of Obama–unmatched by any presidential candidate in my lifetime–have crashed against reality time and time again.

It’s not simply that Mr. Obama has fallen short of what he promised; it’s that he has been, in so many respects, a failure. Choose your metrics. Better yet, choose Mr. Obama’s metrics: Job creation. Economic growth. Improving our health-care system. Reducing the debt. Reducing poverty. Reducing income inequality. Slowing the rise of the oceans. Healing the planet. Repairing the world. The Russian “reset.” Peace in the Middle East. Red lines in Syria. Renewed focus on Afghanistan. A new beginning with the Arab world. Better relations with our allies. Depolarizing our politics. Putting an end to the type of politics that “breeds division and conflict and cynicism.” Working with the other party. Transparency. No lobbyists working in his administration. His commitment to seek public financing in the general election. The list goes on and on.


Face it, the guy sucks, he is a liar and political hack.. And let's hope he drags progressivism down like he has this country.
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2014/04/24/obamas-staggering-record-of-failure/
 

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