Baldimo
 
  0  
Thu 15 May, 2014 11:05 am
@bobsal u1553115,
CI's issue is the casting of labels for HIS perceived opinion on what racism is. If he thinks I'm a racist, then he doesn't know **** about racism. It is one of the few things that pisses me off is the BS claim of racism because you don't agree them. Having mixed race children, I take it very personally when such claims are made. I didn't have much respect for CI due to his a2k habits before and he has even less of my respect now. I know that has no effect on him, but it will effect how I address him in the future.

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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Thu 15 May, 2014 11:12 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
What the hell is wrong with you?


If you bother to look back at the posts Rex supposedly has me on ignore. And he called me a racist, a bigot, and a hater before I said one thing to him. If you think for one minute I can be, or should be, talked to that way without returning the liberal hate there is something wrong with you.
bobsal u1553115
 
  3  
Thu 15 May, 2014 11:15 am
The GOP sure thinks its racist!!!

http://atlantadailyworld.com/2012/11/27/florida-gop-admits-changes-in-voting-laws-were-made-to-suppress-blacks-democrats/

Florida GOP Admits Changes in Voting Laws Were Made to Suppress Blacks, Democrats

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Nov 27, 2012
By Atlanta Daily World


voter suppression protest

Former Republican leaders in Florida have admitted the state’s voter ID law was nothing but a failed attempt at voter suppression.

It was long suspected by many on the outside, but today Republicans who were responsible for passing the legislation that caused long voter lines and kept the state’s electoral votes from being counted until days after the election had been decided admitted to The Palm Beach Post that the laws were really just meant to assure a GOP victory in the state.

Former Republican Party of Florida Chairman Jim Greer and former Florida Gov. Charlie Crist both say that early Republican claims that the law was intended to fight voter fraud were bogus.

Greer says he attended various meetings, beginning in 2009, at which GOP staff members and consultants explained their real reasoning for passing the law that reduced early voting from 14 days to eight and took away Sunday voting.

“The Republican Party, the strategists, the consultants, they firmly believe that early voting is bad for Republican Party candidates,” Greer told The Post. “It’s done for one reason and one reason only… ‘We’ve got to cut down on early voting because early voting is not good for us,’ ” Greer said he was told.

“They never came in to see me and tell me we had a (voter) fraud issue,” Greer said. “It’s all a marketing ploy.”

Greer is now under indictment, accused of stealing $200,000 from the party through a counterfeit campaign fundraising operation. He has counter sued, saying party leaders knew what he was doing and never objected.

Christ, who is no longer a Republican, backed Greer’s story. He said he was never told explicitly to disenfranchise black voters, “but it looked to me like that was what was being suggested,” Crist said. “And I didn’t want them to go there at all.”

A GOP consultant who asked to remain anonymous out of fear of retribution was less restrained.

“I know that the cutting out of the Sunday before Election Day was one of their targets only because that’s a big day when the black churches organize themselves,” he said.

A number of voter registration organizations, minority coalitions and Democratic politicians in Florida are now demanding investigations either by state or federal officials.

“The sad thing about that is yes, there is prejudice and racism in the party but the real prevailing thought is that they don’t think minorities will ever vote Republican,” Greer said. “It’s not really a broad-based racist issue. It’s simply that the Republican Party gave up a long time ago ever believing that anything they did would get minorities to vote for them.”



Videoo
PA GOP Leader Admits Voter ID is For Democratic Vote Suppression



http://videoo.mobi/video/CMieOTKYDxo/PA-GOP-Leader-Admits-Voter-ID-is-For-Democratic-Vote-Suppression.html


Rand Paul: GOP shouldn’t go 'crazy' on voter ID


Sen. Rand Paul is pictured. | Getty

Paul also emphasized his commitment to restoring voting rights for felons. | Getty
By POLITICO STAFF | 5/9/14 8:06 PM EDT Updated: 5/14/14 6:36 AM EDT

Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul has said that the GOP’s push for tough voter ID and related laws is “offending” minorities and that the party shouldn’t “go too crazy” on the matter.

The comments, made in an interview with The New York Times on Friday, could upset conservative voters who have promoted the laws in several states as a way to stop voter fraud.


Opponents of the laws argue that voter fraud is a rare problem, and that the real reason behind measures that require voters to produce specific identification, limit early voting and other statutes is to effectively disenfranchise poor and minority voters who tend to support Democrats.

(Also on POLITICO: Intelligence staff banned from citing leaked material)

Paul, a potential 2016 presidential candidate who is trying to reach beyond his libertarian-leaning base, suggested the GOP was over-hyping the topic.

“Everybody’s gone completely crazy on this voter ID thing,” Paul said, noting that the debates over the law had a racial element to them. “I think it’s wrong for Republicans to go too crazy on this issue because it’s offending people.”

Paul made the comments in Memphis, where he spoke at the Republican National Committee meeting as well as met with a group of black pastors.

Paul has offended African-Americans in the past, including with comments that questioned the Civil Rights Act.

But he also has made a concerted effort to reach out to blacks during what appears to be a build up to a presidential campaign. In particular, he has focused on the criminal justice system, pushing for changes in drug sentencing laws, for instance.

(PHOTOS: Rand Paul’s career)

According to the Times, Paul emphasized his commitment to restoring voting rights for felons, another issue of concern for the African-American community.

“The bigger issue actually is whether you get to vote if you have a felony conviction,” he said. “There’s 180,000 people in Kentucky who can’t vote. And I don’t know the racial breakdown, but it’s probably more black than white.”

On Monday, Paul senior adviser Doug Stafford issued a statement downplaying the senator’s comments, saying they were made as part of a “larger discussion about criminal justice reform and restoration of voting rights.”

“In the course of that discussion, [Paul] reiterated a point he has made before that while there may be some instances of voter fraud, it should not be a defining issue of the Republican Party, as it is an issue that is perhaps perceived in a way it is not intended,” Stafford said. “In terms of the specifics of voter ID laws, Senator Paul believes it’s up to each state to decide that type of issue.”

http://politi.co/1ozrEio


GOP Official Resigns After Saying Purpose Of Voter ID Is To Suppress Votes Of Democrats, ‘Lazy Blacks’

By Ian Millhiser October 25, 2013 at 9:00 am Updated: October 25, 2013 at 9:26 am


"GOP Official Resigns After Saying Purpose Of Voter ID Is To Suppress Votes Of Democrats, ‘Lazy Blacks’"



Until Thursday, Don Yelton was a precinct chair in the Buncombe County, North Carolina Republican Party. That ended after a Daily Show interview riddled with racism and candid admissions about the purpose of a voter suppression bill enacted by Republican lawmakers in his state. Over the course of the interview Yelton admitted that he supports requiring voters to show ID, in addition to the other, many voter suppression provisions included in the North Carolina law, because “the law is going to kick the Democrats in the butt.” He also denied that the law is racist during the course of an interview where he both used a particular racial slur that begins with the letter “n” and claimed that he is not racist because he “one my best friends is black.” Watch it:

Yelton also offered several other reasons why he supports the voter suppression law. Among them, “f it hurts a bunch of college kids that’s too lazy to get up off their bohunkus [sic] and get a photo ID, so be it,” and “if it hurts a bunch of lazy blacks that wants the government to give them everything, so be it.”

In the wake of Yelton’s confession that a Republican voter suppression law will suppress Democratic votes, the Buncombe County Republican Party asked him to resign his position within the party, and the country GOP chair says Yelton did so. The party also claims that Yelton was “recently reprimanded and removed from his position as a precinct chair in Buncombe County for a period of time in 2012 through 2013,” though he was reelected at a very sparsely attended party convention.



coldjoint
 
  -2  
Thu 15 May, 2014 11:20 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
Former Republican Party of Florida Chairman Jim Greer and former Florida Gov. Charlie Crist


Both weasels and perfectly fit the party they have joined. They should put down their cocktails, and seek out legal voters without ID instead of crying about it.

Why they don't is obvious. If you can't prove citizenship to the state they will not issue and ID that says you are a citizen.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Thu 15 May, 2014 11:36 am
Quote:
Latest Examples of the Undeniable Link Between Homosexuality and Pedophilia

Read more at http://barbwire.com/2014/05/15/recent-example-link-homosexuality-pedophilia/#TUX6SiEooWzwufcj.99

Just thought people should know. Islam likes pedophilia also. The left keeps strange company, but can't be judged by the company they keep. Why is that?
wmwcjr
 
  1  
Thu 15 May, 2014 03:30 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

If you bother to look back at the posts Rex supposedly has me on ignore. And he called me a racist, a bigot, and a hater before I said one thing to him. If you think for one minute I can be, or should be, talked to that way without returning the liberal hate there is something wrong with you.


These hateful exchanges have been going on for so long that it's hard to tell who started it. ("You started it!" "No, you started it!") Name-calling and personal attacks seem to be the norm in Internet forums. I'm not perfect, either. I have to admit I've lost my temper here at A2K about five or six times usually because I got the impression that the other member wasn't listening. As we all should know by now, posting anonymously removes our inhibitions. Also, I think many guys enjoy all the combativeness Twisted Evil . To some it's a game to be played. To others it's a way to express one's machismo.

I realize what I'm now about to say will sound corny or will make me look "fem" (which couldn't be farther from the truth, since I pump iron at a health club Mr. Green Drunk ), but here goes: Some people who get wrapped up in politics feel so angry toward the other side that they will even demonize private individuals who don't share their views.

Behind every username is a human being with feelings. (Yes, I know that sounds corny. Mr. Green ) There's more to an individual besides his political views (or lack thereof). I've given up on politics, and I'm also at the age when one loses friends to death more frequently. My current "best friend" votes Republican consistently, but he would never try to persuade me to become a conservative.

The truth of the matter is that there are decent individuals on both sides among the rank and file, despite the fact that many of their leaders might be jerks or worse. For example, I'm sure there are liberal individuals whom coldjoint would admire if he knew them personally because of their decency and the heroic way in which they have dealt with adverse or tragic circumstances in their lives. I'm also sure the reverse is true of individuals on the other side.

As far as meanspiritedness is concerned, I've seen even worse in other forums. I personally know of such incidents at other websites. Some people can really be cruel. The Internet has released the beast that was always there.

You already knew all this before I started blathering here. Smile


cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 15 May, 2014 03:58 pm
@wmwcjr,
Not totally true that we post anonymously. I know many a2k members from spending time with them, and have traveled to London-2x, Lippstadt, Toronto, Moscow, Chicago-4x, Phili, Houston-2x, Austin-2x, Hamburg, Bonn, and San Francisco-lost count.

Might even meet a few when I'm in NYC in September.

wmwcjr
 
  2  
Thu 15 May, 2014 04:13 pm
@cicerone imposter,
You're absolutely right! That was dumb of me. I'd forgotten about that. Sorry, it just escaped my mind.

So, you're going to NYC in September. Considering the wonderfully entertaining spats the two of you have had recently Twisted Evil , would you be willing to meet Frank? Razz Wink Please don't misunderstand. I like both you guys! Smile Cool Anyway, I hope you have a good time. Smile Maybe we'll meet someday.

By the way, notice I got a "thumbs down" for a completely innocuous, positive post that I had not expected to offend any reasonable person. (Of course, the key word is "reasonable.") There's so much love and courage here. Rolling Eyes Wink
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 15 May, 2014 05:44 pm
@wmwcjr,
I have spats with all my siblings about religion and politics. Many of my a2k friends also know me, we've also had our disagreements, but they forgive me for my 'sins.'

Frank and I have 'promised' to have a brew together in the past. Why not?

wmwcjr
 
  2  
Thu 15 May, 2014 05:58 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I agree. Smile I should have known better. Sounds cool! Cool
wmwcjr
 
  2  
Thu 15 May, 2014 06:16 pm
Hey, anonymous poster, I wear your zero as a badge of honor -- something that you, due to your shameful cowardice, are short in supply. I'll be looking forward to your first PM. Actually, I won't. Just applying a little sarcasm here. Anonymity is such a great source of courage and conviction. Rolling Eyes
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Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Thu 15 May, 2014 06:50 pm
@wmwcjr,
wmwcjr wrote:

I agree. Smile I should have known better. Sounds cool! Cool


All of us here in New York meet, if at all possible, with all who pass through the Big Apple.

When we are visiting with one another...the A2K battling nonsense does not come up...and we all feel a closeness and kinship that can be surprising.

I'll check and see if Joe Nation is around (he may be up in Canada)...and any of the others who like to meet other A2Kers.

ci is a celebrity in the meeting game. I've met over a dozen people...but he has met dozens over the years...and I would not miss this on a bet.

That plane schedule he will be battling may be a bit more intimidating than he thinks, though. Traffic to his plane will have to be considered. I do hope to at least meet and shake hands...so as to put a real face on a cyber relationship.
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RexRed
 
  1  
Fri 16 May, 2014 08:20 am
Indiana Governor Mike Pence Takes Medicaid Expansion to Obamacare
http://egbertowillies.com/2014/05/16/mike-pence-medicaid-expansion-obamacare/
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RexRed
 
  1  
Fri 16 May, 2014 08:46 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Thank you Bobsal for your confidence in me. You and (a lot of others here in the forum) are the best of the best! I am proud to be in your company! Smile
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RexRed
 
  1  
Fri 16 May, 2014 08:50 am
@wmwcjr,
wmwcjr wrote:

You're absolutely right! That was dumb of me. I'd forgotten about that. Sorry, it just escaped my mind.

So, you're going to NYC in September. Considering the wonderfully entertaining spats the two of you have had recently Twisted Evil , would you be willing to meet Frank? Razz Wink Please don't misunderstand. I like both you guys! Smile Cool Anyway, I hope you have a good time. Smile Maybe we'll meet someday.

By the way, notice I got a "thumbs down" for a completely innocuous, positive post that I had not expected to offend any reasonable person. (Of course, the key word is "reasonable.") There's so much love and courage here. Rolling Eyes Wink


cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Fri 16 May, 2014 09:25 am
@RexRed,
Racism is still around all over the US.
http://news.yahoo.com/towns-white-police-official-calls-obama-n-word-204931723.html
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Fri 16 May, 2014 09:30 am
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Racism is still around all over the US.


And the left will make sure it stays that way.
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RexRed
 
  1  
Fri 16 May, 2014 09:31 am
https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/s526x395/10354748_10152165417266275_4754110891079719634_n.png
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bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Fri 16 May, 2014 10:31 am
@coldjoint,
Want to repeat that? I couldn't understand a thing you said after 'wahhhhhh'!
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bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Fri 16 May, 2014 10:32 am
@coldjoint,
Ok, I'll bite. What party do you support?
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