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coldjoint says:

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I never said those lies killed anyone. Those lies did kill the respect for the office of president and Obamas credibility. And the credibility of those around him

No, Joint. What you said was "Obama lied. Americans died." Not that lies killed respect for the presidency. Americans died, you said. You're not talking respect in that, unless you have no idea how language works. You're talking about people dying, and you're attributing it to Obama lying. You can't weasel out of what you said by trying to be disingenuous about it. You were called on it, and yo're flat wrong. As usual. Unless time for you flows backward, it's impossible.
In addition, considering the riots and actions in other parts of the world around the stupid film, it was a reasonable supposition in the absence of corroboratory evidence for another cause, which didn't exist yet. Far more credible than Bush's Wespons of Mass Destruction lies which have so far resulted in over 5000 American deaths. Which you conveniently ignore.

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@MontereyJack,

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Not that lies killed respect for the presidency.

Yes, the lies show Obama has no respect for the office.

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In addition, considering the riots and actions in other parts of the world around the stupid film,

No they weren't. Prove that film inspired one protest. And don't use the Obama talking points to do that.

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You did n't say "respect for the presidency died", joint. You said "Americans died". You can't weasel out of your own words, however you flail around trying to do it.

Further, the NYT actually went out and talked to leaders of the militias in Benghazi, rather than talking just to Americans, as all the GOP "investigations" seem to do, and the Libyans, yes, said anger at the video was definitely involved, that alQaeda wasn't the instigator, and that it was local militias, and rogue groups, with apparently some planning but with a whole lot of spur-of-the-mement activity too. AAnd that the people involved had in some cases just a couple days before seemed friendly to American interests and were urging a McDonalds and a KFC be built in Benghazi. The whole thing was much mrkier and chaotic than what the GOP is attempting to paint it as.

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@MontereyJack,

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You said "Americans died".

They are not dead? And did Obama lie. The order means nothing. As Killary would say "what difference does it make?"

The story (lie)advanced definitely came from the WH. Everyone knows that. You keep on defending that rank piece of **** if you wish. He is a ******* disgrace and so are the scumbags that work for him.

The progressive agenda does not give one **** about this country. And it shows now more than ever.

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ABC: Newly Released Email Shows WH Blamed Benghazi on Video to Deflect Criticisms of Obama

Looks like it is official now.
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2014/04/30/ABC-Newly-Released-Email-Shows-WH-Blamed-Benghazi-On-Video-To-Deflect-Criticisms-Of-Obama

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joint says:

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They are not dead? And did Obama lie. The order means nothing.

Yeah, sure, joint. You KNOW you lied here. And you're just trying to weasel out of it. And you're not man enough to admit it.

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@MontereyJack,

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You KNOW you lied here.

You think Obama knows he did? Is that what is important or how I worded my post? I put no less spin than any liberal would to get the point across.

Lying is nothing more than Obamas standard behavior.

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@coldjoint,

Let's look at 2 statements.

Bush lied, people died.

And your statement:
Obama lied, people died.

Let's see if the spin is the same.
In the first case it refers to what is considered by some to be Bush's lies to start the war in Iraq. No one died in the war until after the supposed lies were said. The spin is that Bush's lied caused the deaths.

In the second case, you are claiming Obama's lies occurred after people died. While one can argue the lies might be similar, it is impossible to argue the statements are similar in their spin. Since one claims the people died as a result of the lies and the other while stated exactly the same means no such thing. So no, no sane person could claim the 2 statements use the same spin.

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Rev. Manning: Obama has produced more racism in America than 200 years of slavery

He is right. He is black.

http://www.dcclothesline.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/doc-manning-obama-600x450.jpg

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Every last person that voted for Obama because of the color of his skin, God is demonstrating the ineffectiveness of Obama and He is condemning your vote. He is condemning the illegal elections … and all of the praise, all of the legislation, all of the acts and laws that Obama has produced….”

http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/05/01/rev-manning-obama-produced-racism-america-200-years-slavery/
God is pissed at Obama, and He is not the only one.

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@parados,

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So no, no sane person could claim the 2 statements use the same spin.

Big deal. It was a slogan for anti-Bush people. I thought it was catchy. And spin really has little to do with facts. You should know that. Spin is just the way people are persuaded to view facts.

And all of this detracts from the real issue. Obama lied to win an election.

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@coldjoint,

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Obama lied to win an election.

yep, but the bigger problems are his poor judgement and his unwillingness to work with others.

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@hawkeye10,

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yep,

Don't get that very often. But you are right. And those facts are not even considered by MSM and progressive pundits. Obama does nothing wrong when there is the Republican party and rest of the racist country to blame.

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@coldjoint,

The Pink Prevaricator wrote:

Big deal. It was a slogan for anti-Bush people. I thought it was catchy. And spin really has little to do with facts. You should know that. Spin is just the way people are persuaded to view facts.

And all of this detracts from the real issue. Obama lied to win an election.

Of course you think your lies are no big deal. If you didn't lie you would have nothing to say. The problem is you are using spin to try to make people believe lies which are NOT facts.

You have **** for brains when you claim your opinions are facts.

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@parados,

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The problem is you are using spin to try to make people believe lies which are NOT facts.

Yes that is exactly what you do. Is that a tactic only for your use? There are no rules for you. Your end justifies the means. Someone needs to level the playing field.

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@coldjoint,

The Pink Prevaricator wrote:

Yes that is exactly what you do. Is that a tactic only for your use? There are no rules for you. Your end justifies the means. Someone needs to level the playing field.

Someone needs to make sure there is a playing field. You just throw things around and then run away when confronted with truths.

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@parados,

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Someone needs to make sure there is a playing field. You just throw things around and then run away when confronted with truths.

Truths? There are no truths with Obama. All I hear is there will never be enough proof from you, and even unpaid idiots, to ever do anything. Every scandal has sufficient evidence that points in only one direction. But you knowing that information will never be attained insist on his innocence. How ******* convenient is that?

Obamacare is not working. It will slow the economy even more when the other mandates kick in. And the economy can't get much slower.

And now we know that Benghazi could have changed the election, and there is no way to say it could not have. Romney would have a lot of people back to work by now. And would not have all of America at each others throat. Or have his finger in his ass on foreign policy.

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Red Alert Politics’ Melissa Quinn reported on a Harvard poll released

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The survey from the Harvard Institute of Politics found that Millennials’ trust in government institutions — including the presidency — has tanked since March 2012. Only 31 percent of 18-to-34 year olds trust the federal government overall, with the level of trust young people have in the president and the United States military suffering the most over the last 12 months.

Of those Millennials surveyed, 32 percent trust the president to do the right thing either most or all of the time. And among Democrats, trust in the president took a significant hit over the last year, with just 53 percent saying they trusted the president, compared with 64 percent in 2013.

Wait until they get wise to the policies that do not work and the lies they hear at our universities

http://www.acidpulse.us/images/smilies/cheer.gif

http://redalertpolitics.com/2014/05/01/benghazi-probably-helping-president-regain-trust-youth/#.U2KMSZHC4mk.twitter

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http://www.independentsentinel.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Karl-Marx-Obama.jpg

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@coldjoint,

The Pink Prevaricator wrote:

And now we know that Benghazi could have changed the election, and there is no way to say it could not have.

We have reality to say there was nothing about Benghazi that would have changed the election. Polls show that the economy was the most important thing in the election. The only people that were worried about Benghazi over the economy were people like yourself that wouldn't have voted for Obama anyway. Even today, the economy is much more important than Benghazi and yet you run around acting as if it's the most important thing around.

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@parados,

We all know pinkie's tactics; post bull shyt and run or add more bull shyt to the first bull shyt.

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