parados
 
  3  
Wed 16 Apr, 2014 01:55 pm
@coldjoint,
There's Pinkie again. Getting all upset that the government is looking to actually enforce the laws on the books.

Tax exempt groups that violate the law are not exempt from investigation or prosecution, Pinkie.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Wed 16 Apr, 2014 01:56 pm
@parados,
Quote:
Tax exempt groups that violate the law are not exempt from investigation or prosecution, Pinkie.


They are if they are progressive. Got that?
parados
 
  2  
Wed 16 Apr, 2014 01:59 pm
@coldjoint,
When you have evidence of progressive groups violating the law then go ahead and report them Pinkie. I will support their prosecution.

When tax exempt groups of any kind violate the law, I am all for prosecuting them. You on the other hand seem to want to allow some to get off simply because they agree with you.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Wed 16 Apr, 2014 02:04 pm
@parados,
Quote:
I will support their prosecution.


It won't happen even if there was evidence, which I am sure there is. The DOJ has a purely political agenda.
parados
 
  1  
Wed 16 Apr, 2014 02:05 pm
@coldjoint,
The Pink Prevaricator wrote:



It won't happen even if there was evidence, which I am sure there is. The DOJ has a purely political agenda.

If only you had evidence to support your opinion. No wonder you oppose Common Core. It will teach a generation of kids to not act the way you do.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Wed 16 Apr, 2014 02:15 pm
@parados,
Quote:
It will teach a generation of kids to not act the way you do.


It will indoctrinate a generations of kids. Parents should be responsible for teaching children social skills and instilling their ideals, no matter what they are. School is for education not propaganda.

But the welfare state you promote encourages irresponsibility so those people who just don't care( that is considered cool) will let their children to grow up programmed zombies.

You stand behind everything that has do with taking away liberties and individual rights. You are a modern bigot, and in reality a monster that seeks to drain the life out of humanity with imposed thought.
parados
 
  1  
Wed 16 Apr, 2014 02:20 pm
@coldjoint,
The Pink Prevaricator wrote:

Quote:
It will teach a generation of kids to not act the way you do.


It will indoctrinate a generations of kids. Parents should be responsible for teaching children social skills and instilling their ideals, no matter what they are. School is for education not propaganda.
Math and English are hardly social skills or ideals.
I suppose you could argue that you want to be the one to tell kids what irrational numbers are but they really don't have much to do with your irrational thinking skills.

The Pink Prevaricator wrote:

But the welfare state you promote encourages irresponsibility so those people who just don't care( that is considered cool) will let their children to grow up programmed zombies.

You stand behind everything that has do with taking away liberties and individual rights. You are a modern bigot, and in reality a monster that seeks to drain the life out of humanity with imposed thought.

Because kids that have no math or English skills will be so much better prepared for the work place. Do you ever bother to think before you post pink nonsense?
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Wed 16 Apr, 2014 02:24 pm
@parados,
Quote:
Because kids that have no math or English skills will be so much better prepared for the work place. Do you ever bother to think before you post pink nonsense?


Oh I see they never taught those subjects before? You can't force anyone to learn. That is a bullshit answer. Have you seen any Common Core worksheets. I have. And the examples they use to teach are pure propaganda.

There is a thread full of examples.
bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Wed 16 Apr, 2014 02:26 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
I'd say you were playing dumb, but I know you are not playing. Muslims get their way. Christians don't. But that is cool because liberals despise Christians and are scared shitless of Islam.


Muslims get their way and Christians don't. But its not based on any fact in evidence. Try again. Specifically what is it you're dancing around?
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parados
 
  2  
Wed 16 Apr, 2014 02:29 pm
@coldjoint,
Common Core doesn't produce worksheets. They leave that up to individual schools.

It seems it's you that is using pure propaganda here, Pinkie.

bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Wed 16 Apr, 2014 02:30 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Quote: Katie Pavlich


Who the hell is Katie Pavlich and what qualifies her past a personal opinion without foundation?
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bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Wed 16 Apr, 2014 02:40 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
@parados,
Quote:

Tax exempt groups that violate the law are not exempt from investigation or prosecution, Pinkie.



They are if they are progressive. Got that?


Wrong again, bucko.

Issa Told Treasury IG: Ignore IRS Treatment Of Liberal Groups
June 27, 2013 | Filed under: Featured,Liberaland | Posted by: dave-dr-gonzo
Repost This Article

How (not) to gin up a scandal:

The bombshell IRS audit released in May omitted information about liberal groups at the request of House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-CA), according to the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration’s office.

A spokesman for Treasury Inspector General J. Russell George told The Hill on Tuesday that Issa had requested investigators “narrowly focus on tea party organizations.”

The subsequent audit concluded the IRS used “inappropriate criteria” to single out for additional scrutiny tea party groups that applied for tax exempt status. The findings lead almost every politician, including President Barack Obama, to denounce the IRS. Several Republicans suggested the audit indicated the White House had a Nixonian “enemies list.”

Speaking to CNN on Tuesday, Issa said the IRS appeared to have been targeting Obama’s political opponents “perhaps not on his request” but “on his behalf.”

But new documents have revealed that liberal and progressive groups received similar treatment from the IRS. The “inappropriate criteria” used to single out tea party groups — so-called “Be On the Look Out” (BOLO) memos — also singled out progressive and “Occupy” groups.

OR

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/07/irs-scrutinized-liberal-groups-94556.html

IRS scrutinized some liberal groups

By DAVID NATHER | 7/22/13 1:58 PM EDT

After a political group in Texas asked the IRS for a tax exemption last year, it got a lengthy, time-consuming list of questions — like a request for the minutes of all the board meetings since the group got started.

And a California-based group got turned down completely in 2011, because the IRS concluded that it was set up “primarily for the benefit of a political party.”

These two stories sound like they’d fit right into the raging IRS scandal over its treatment of conservative groups that applied for tax-exempt status.

(PHOTOS: 10 slams on the IRS)

The only difference: these two groups — Progress Texas and Emerge America — were unabashedly liberal.

POLITICO surveyed the liberal groups from an IRS list of advocacy organizations that were approved after the tougher examinations started. The review found some examples of liberal groups facing scrutiny similar to their conservative counterparts — they were asked for copies of web pages, actions alerts, and written materials from all of their events.

But those harsh investigations were more rare than what POLITICO had found when it surveyed conservative groups at the beginning of the scandal. And the questions themselves appear less invasive, overall.

So while liberals have some reason to complain about the IRS, the disparity in treatment does help explain why the conservative piece became a runaway story while the liberal side did not.

(PHOTOS: IRS hearing on Capitol Hill)

Plus, many liberal groups just weren’t as bothered by the questions they did get.

Progress Texas was the only one that came forward during the height of the scandal, releasing its own IRS letter to prove it had been hassled, too. It even had a cover letter from Lois Lerner, the embattled IRS official at the center of the scandal.

But even then, its leaders didn’t really feel hassled.

“If you’re going to ask for exceptional treatment, you should expect to go through exceptional screening,” said Ed Espinoza, the executive director of Progress Texas. “We all play by the same rules, and if they don’t like the rules, they don’t have to play.”

(Also on POLITICO: 5 questions for tax inspector general J. Russell George)

At a hearing on Thursday, Rep. Darrell Issa asked the IRS inspector general to look into where liberal groups were targeted. But most of the momentum is behind Congress staying on the trail of the conservative targeting. Top Republicans are trying to pry more information out of the agency about the role of the IRS Chief Counsel’s office, after career IRS officials testified that Lerner sent Tea Party applications there as part of a lengthy review process.

The bottom line is, Republicans have more fuel to keep the scandal alive — and liberal groups just aren’t about to march in the streets.

“In my mind, I didn’t find it to be onerous. I just thought they were doing their due diligence,” said Denise Cardinal of Progress Now, the umbrella organization for state progressive groups like Progress Texas.

Her group was one of the ones that got off easily. Its IRS letter — which came from the same Cincinnati office that investigated the conservative groups — asked just four follow-up questions, mostly about its relationship with its state affiliates.

Cardinal said some of the state groups did get lengthier sets of questions. And Alliance for a Better Utah, one of those state affiliates, is still waiting for the IRS to approve 501(c)(3) status for its education and voter registration operation. That’s causing problems because it can’t apply for foundation and grant money while that application to become a charitable organization is in limbo, according to Maryann Martindale, the group’s executive director.


coldjoint
 
  -1  
Wed 16 Apr, 2014 02:42 pm
@parados,
Quote:
Vladimir Lenin put it succinctly when he said, "Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted." Now, I don't make a habit of quoting early nineteenth century Soviet communist revolutionaries, but Lenin inadvertently makes a good point in relation to today's progressive-led education decline. I am talking, specifically, about the Common Core initiative that has recently, and after almost four years, been brought back up to the table for debate on both sides.

Democrats and Progressives argue heedlessly that Common Core standards will provide, according to the Hunt Institute, "the consistent, shared, and rigorous education standards that all American students need in order to succeed," in a competitive global market when they emerge from secondary education. Common Core proponents ceaselessly contend that the Common Core standards were designed by the states, for the states, in a collaborative effort to increase academic rigor in classrooms across the nation. Lately, and most notably in Georgia, where the Initiative (which was initially adopted) was recently abandoned due to projected astronomical costs, the Common Core issue has made a triumphant reappearance as the real details of Common Core have finally started to bubble to the surface. While some perturbing and unsettling facts have been uncovered, it is clear many people do not recognize or care about the threat the Common Core Initiative potentially entails


bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Wed 16 Apr, 2014 02:44 pm
@coldjoint,
I bet you can't even cite any specific goals of the common core.
coldjoint
 
  0  
Wed 16 Apr, 2014 02:51 pm
@parados,
Quote:
Common Core doesn't produce worksheets.


Quote:
Common Core Worksheet - Free Printable Worksheets

http://us.yhs4.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=A0LEVvhj7E5TzV8AMlQPxQt.?ei=UTF-8&type=tb_ff_tbs&hsimp=yhs-defalttabtransfer&hspart=w3i&p=common+core+worksheets&rs=6&fr2=rs-bottom
Oh they don't?
coldjoint
 
  0  
Wed 16 Apr, 2014 02:53 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
I bet you can't even cite any specific goals of the common core.


I can tell you one, and already have. But you are a moron who enjoys being led around by your nose until it stops at the first progressives ass you can kiss.
coldjoint
 
  0  
Wed 16 Apr, 2014 02:56 pm
Quote:
Angry parents, at least one student suspended and -- in one school district -- children denied ice cream.

Such has been the roll-out of Common Core testing in New York, the first state to implement the test component of the controversial nationalized educational standard.

Seirra Olivero, a 13-year-old student at Orange-Ulster BOCES, claims she was suspended from school last week after telling classmates they could opt out of taking the Common Core English test -- a decision few students and parents in the area knew was possible, according to the girl's mother.

The eighth-grader was suspended for two days for "insubordination," following the April 1 incident, in which she informed her friends they had a choice whether or not to take the exam on the day of the test. According to Seirra, she had just stepped off the school bus when she encountered a fellow classmate who was "anxious" about taking the test.


Liberal bullying. That is enough to tell you Common Core stinks
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/04/11/some-ny-parents-claim-students-punished-for-opting-out-common-core-testing/
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Wed 16 Apr, 2014 03:04 pm
Quote:
Common Core's Dirtiest Trick: Dividing Parents and Children


That says it all. No one should replace a parent, or parents.
Quote:

Here is a commonplace horror story that can stand in for millions of others: “When Mike and Camille Chudzinski tried to help their son with his homework earlier this fall, they were bewildered. The fourth-grader brought home no spelling lists, few textbooks, and a whole new approach to solving math problems. When he tackled multi-digit addition, for instance, Patrick did not just line up the two numbers and then add the columns, as his parents had been taught to do. Instead, he sketched out a graph with a series of arrows and marks that appeared at first to his parents as indecipherable as hieroglyphics.”

When we hear these stories, we typically focus on the comical oddity of adults not being able to do homework intended for children. How is that even possible? But the ramifications are anything but funny. The real damage is that Reform Math opens up fractures throughout society. Parents are cut off from their children. Parents and schools are pitted against each other. Students are alienated from their teachers and schools.

Sociologist James Coleman said that the most important thing in successful education is what he called "social capital." Ideally, parents, kids, schools, and community are on the same page, working toward the same goals. In this way the children feel they are doing appropriate and necessary things. Energy is used to complete tasks, not to debate the merits of the tasks

http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/04/common_cores_dirtiest_trick_dividing_parents_and_children.html
Quote:
The divide between parents and children is a far more critical issue than many imagined. The proper priority is that homework should be specifically designed to bring parents and children together. Common Core seems cunningly designed to do the opposite. That’s the main reason it must be defeated.


If you are for Common Core, you are against the family. but progressives have made no secret of that.
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Wed 16 Apr, 2014 03:08 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
Her group was one of the ones that got off easily. Its IRS letter — which came from the same Cincinnati office that investigated the conservative groups — asked just four follow-up questions, mostly about its relationship with its state affiliates.


Still, the Cincinnatti office?http://www.alien-earth.org/images/smileys/tool.gif
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bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Wed 16 Apr, 2014 03:22 pm
@coldjoint,


F.O.X. N.E.W.S. Riiiiight.


Fox News gets okay to misinform public, court ruling
03/09/10 11:48 Filed in: Media Reform

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UPDATED:Many news agencies lie and distort facts, not many have the guts to admit it...in court...positioning the First Amendment as their defense!

The attorneys for Fox, owned by media baron Rupert Murdoch, successfully argued the First Amendment gives broadcasters the right to lie or deliberately distort news reports on the public airwaves. We are pushing for a consumer protection solution that labels news content according to its adherence to ethical journalism standards that have been codified by the Society of Professional Journalists (Ethics: spj.org).
A News Quality Rating System and Content Labeling approach, follows a tradition of consumer protection product labeling, that is very familiar to Americans. The ratings are anti-censorship and can benefit consumers.

Appellate Court Rules Media Can Legally Lie.
By Mike Gaddy. Published Feb. 28, 2003
On February 14, a Florida Appeals court ruled there is absolutely nothing illegal about lying, concealing or distorting information by a major press organization. The court reversed the $425,000 jury verdict in favor of journalist Jane Akre who charged she was pressured by Fox Television management and lawyers to air what she knew and documented to be false information. The ruling basically declares it is technically not against any law, rule, or regulation to deliberately lie or distort the news on a television broadcast.

On August 18, 2000, a six-person jury was unanimous in its conclusion that Akre was indeed fired for threatening to report the station's pressure to broadcast what jurors decided was "a false, distorted, or slanted" story about the widespread use of growth hormone in dairy cows.

The court did not dispute the heart of Akre's claim, that Fox pressured her to broadcast a false story to protect the broadcaster from having to defend the truth in court, as well as suffer the ire of irate advertisers. Fox argued from the first, and failed on three separate occasions, in front of three different judges, to have the case tossed out on the grounds there is no hard, fast, and written rule against deliberate distortion of the news.

The attorneys for Fox, owned by media baron Rupert Murdoch, argued the First Amendment gives broadcasters the right to lie or deliberately distort news reports on the public airwaves.

In its six-page written decision, the Court of Appeals held that the Federal Communications Commission position against news distortion is only a "policy," not a promulgated law, rule, or regulation. Fox aired a report after the ruling saying it was "totally vindicated" by the verdict.
 

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