RexRed
 
  2  
Mon 31 Mar, 2014 11:05 pm
Anyone for some popcorn? Smile

Bridget Anne Kelly Strikes Back: Christie is "Venomous and Sexist"
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/03/28/1288133/-Bridge-Anne-Kelly-Strikes-Back-Christie-is-Venomous-and-Sexist?detail=facebook
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Mon 31 Mar, 2014 11:06 pm
Quote:
Oil and gas leases, acres, and permits all down under Obama

http://washingtonexaminer.com/oil-and-gas-leases-acres-and-permits-all-down-under-obama/article/2510988
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Mon 31 Mar, 2014 11:08 pm
@RexRed,
Quote:
Anyone for some popcorn?


You and the girls have fun.http://www.acidpulse.net/images/smilies/cheer.gif
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RexRed
 
  2  
Mon 31 Mar, 2014 11:12 pm
Wisconsin Capitol Police served with federal civil rights lawsuit
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/03/31/1288609/-Wisconsin-Capitol-Police-about-to-be-served-with-federal-civil-rights-lawsuit
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Mon 31 Mar, 2014 11:15 pm
Quote:
Obama Administration Cuts Oil Development on Federal Land


http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/obama-federal-land-oil/2013/06/22/id/511337/
MontereyJack
 
  3  
Mon 31 Mar, 2014 11:24 pm
coldjoint says:
Quote:
And all that is done on privately owned land. Getting a federal permit is nearly impossible. Obama is only taking credit for something he did not have a ******* thing to do with. And doesn't own up to his mistakes or


Man, sometimes it is hard to believe how dumb you actually are. Did you read your own cite? Does 126 billion barrels of oil from federal lands sound like NOTHING to you? Does 4000-odd leases sound like none? "Down" does not mean the same thing as "nonexistent", which you seem to think. And, may I repeat, with Obama's energy policies at work for five years now, AMERICA IS EXPORTING MORE PETROLEUM PRODUCTS THAN IT IMPORTS, FIRST TIME SINCE 1949, and that's working under Obama's policies, which clearly aren't stifling the money coming in. Reagan didn't do it. Bush I didn't do it. Bush II didn't do it. Reality bites, doesn't it, joint?
raprap
 
  4  
Mon 31 Mar, 2014 11:40 pm
@coldjoint,
Is Newsmax.com a credible source of unbiased news?
[url]Is Newsmax.com a credible source of unbiased news?[/url]

There is ample evidence to support the theory that NewsMax is one of a growing number of right-wing "news" sources and blogs that act as an echo chamber for the conservative viewpoint.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Echo_chamber wrote:
Echo chamber is a colloquial term used to describe a group of media outlets that tend to parrot each other's uncritical reports on the views of a single source, or that otherwise relies on unquestioning repetition of official sources.


Rap
JTT
 
  0  
Mon 31 Mar, 2014 11:45 pm
@RexRed,
Quote:
I still think Saddam and his corrupting influence needed to be taken out and the Taliban too...


Hitler thought things too but that doesn't give any country the right to ILLEGALLY invade a sovereign nation. Both actions were war crimes.

And to make matters worse the invasions were all predicated on lies. Both Saddam and the Taliban were the creations of the USA. The USA has never cared that its installed dictators were butchers. The USA has always preferred butchers.
///////////////


Afghan History: Al Qaeda, The Taliban and the Texas Oil Giants


In the mid-1980’s the UN tried to broker a peace deal in Afghanistan involving a complete Soviet withdrawal in return for an end to US and Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) support for the Afghan rebels. The Reagan Administration refused the UN deal. It wanted to “give the Soviets their Vietnam” as part of a grander scheme to rip apart the Soviet Union. It also wanted the socialist Karmal government out of Kabul. In 1986 US military aid to the mujahadeen increased dramatically to $1 billion/year.

In 1988 the US and the Soviets signed the Geneva Accords which called for an Afghan arms embargo. Both countries ignored the deal and the fighting continued. Mujahadeen fighters routinely tortured and mutilated captured Russian and Afghan soldiers- often in the presence of American advisers. [1]

In 1989 the Soviets pulled out of Afghanistan. Their hand-picked Prime Minister Babrak Karmal had been replaced by the democratically-elected Mohammad Najibullah Ahmadzai in 1986. But Najibullah was also a socialist and democracy was never a State Department priority. He represented the Parchom faction of the Communist People’s Democratic Party of Afghanistan.

Though the Soviets were gone, the US kept funding the guerrilla campaign against the duly-elected government in Kabul. In 1992 Najibullah was overthrown. One of seven fighting mujahadeen factions led by Burhaddin Rabbani took power. Six of the seven rebel groups laid down their arms and got behind Rabbani.

The one that did not was CIA-favorite Gulbuddin Hekmatyar’s Hezbi-i Isbmi, which proceeded to soak the streets of Kabul in yet another round of blood. Though the UN now recognized the Rabbani-led faction as Afghanistan’s legitimate government, the CIA still saw Rabbani as too much the leftist.

Hekmatyar’s forces finally seized Kabul. Rabbani and his government fled north into the Mazar-i-Sharif region where, under the command of military chief Sheik Ahmed Shah Massoud, the ousted mujahadeen factions reconstituted themselves as the Northern Alliance. In 1995 Hezbi-i Isbmi suddenly stepped down, ceding Kabul to a new creation of Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) already in charge in Kandahar- the Taliban.

More than two million Afghans had died in the decade long war CIA war- its biggest covert operation since Vietnam. US taxpayers spent $3.8 billion prosecuting the genocide. The House of Saud matched that amount and the other GCC monarchs kicked in as well.

The US did nothing to help rebuild Afghanistan and the forces which the CIA created to fight their proxy war were increasingly turning their anger towards the West.

An October 1999 coup brought General Pervez Musharraf to power in Pakistan. Musharraf supported the rise of Islamic fundamentalism. He served on the board of Rabita Trust for the Rehabilitation of Stranded Pakistanis- an Osama bin Laden fundraising front. After the 911 terror attacks on the US, the Bush Administration gave Musharraf thirty-six hours to step down from the Rabita board. When he refused, the State Department simply removed Rabita from its list of groups that sponsor terrorism. [2]

Gulbuddin Hekmatyar joined many other mujahadeen leaders in expressing anger and contempt at the US for abandoning them. During the Gulf War, several ex-mujahadeen commanders supported Iraq. Following the war, the wealthy Saudi Osama bin Laden, who served as the House of Saud’s emissary in recruiting Afghan Arab fighters, while putting his construction background to work in building the CIA’s Khost, Afghanistan mujahadeen training camps in 1986, now called for a jihad against the “Crusader-Zionist Alliance”. [3] Many of his fellow ex-mujahadeen fighters heeded his call and al Qaeda emerged as the ugliest Frankenstein yet.

In 1993 al Qaeda extremists led by Ramzi Yousef attempted to blow up the World Trade Center by planting a bomb in a parking garage below the towers. Six people died. A week prior to the bombing, a FAX was received in Cairo warning of an impending attack on US interests. The FAX was fittingly sent from Peshawar, where the CIA first recruited mujahadeen. It was signed by al-Gamaa al-Islamiya (Islamic Group), a mujahadeen faction.

In March 1993 an ex-mujahadeen member walked up to the security checkpoint at CIA headquarters in Langley and opened fire, killing two agents. In March 1995, two CIA agents working out of the US Embassy in Karachi were gunned down by another mujahadeen veteran. Both assailants used AK-47 assault rifles paid for by the Saudi government and supplied by the CIA. Surplus CIA-supplied mujahadeen hardware including Stinger missiles also made its way to Iran and Qatar.

In 1996 bin Laden operatives bombed Khobar Towers military barracks at a US base in Saudi Arabia. Bin Laden Construction had built the facilities. In 1997, two days after a US court convicted the Pakistani responsible for the shootings at CIA headquarters, four auditors with Texas Union Oil Company were gunned down in Karachi.

In 1998 bin Laden loyalists blew up US Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania within minutes of one another. Hundreds died. In 2000 al Qaeda operatives crashed a raft full of explosives into the side of the destroyer USS Cole as it docked in Yemen, where bin Laden’s family originated. Twenty-six US sailors died.

The US was finally forced to apply public pressure on the Pakistani government, which was still hosting the CIA Frankensteins. Clinton CIA Director James Woolsey said Pakistan was close to being placed on the State Department’s list of states that sponsor terrorism. This public pressure further angered the Pakistani people, who had watched as the CIA created and grew these narco-terrorists for a decade, using their country as a training ground. Now the US wanted to offload their culpability onto the Pakistani people. The mujahadeen were furious.

Jordanian mujahadeen Abu Taha put it this way, “The United States is a bloodsucker…and Pakistan is the puppet of America.” Another mujahadeen veteran, Abu Saman, said, “We were not terrorists as long as we and the Americans had the same cause- to defeat a superpower. Now it doesn’t suit the American and Western interests so we are branded terrorists.”[4]

In 1994 the Taliban sprang forth from religious schools known as madrassas in Northwest Pakistan. The schools were run by Jamiat-Ulema-i-Islami- an Islamic fundamentalist group with close ties to Pakistani ISI and funded by the Saudi government. The Taliban launched raids from Pakistani soil, just as the mujahadeen had, gaining notoriety when they freed a Pakistani military convoy captured inside Afghanistan. Within a year they controlled one-third of Afghanistan, establishing a provisional government in Kandahar.

The Rabbani government was ousted in Kabul by Hekmatyar’s Hezbi-i Isbmi. In 1995 as Taliban forces advanced on Kabul, Hekmatyar’s troops handed over control of Kabul to the Taliban. A Western diplomat said of the Taliban, “Clearly the Pakistanis are playing some kind of role”. [5]

When the Taliban came to power in 1996, saying they would establish an “Islamic emirate”, planes landed in Kabul carrying Taliban leaders and seven top-ranking Pakistani military officers. [6] Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and the UAE immediately recognized the Taliban.

The Four Horsemen (Exxon Mobil, Chevron Texaco, BP Amoco & Royal Dutch/Shell) took a shine to the Taliban, viewing them as a “stabilizing force in the region”. They were eager to convince the feudalists of the importance of building a gas pipeline across Afghanistan to the Indian Ocean from the vast natural gas fields of Turkmenistan, which borders Afghanistan to the north.

The Rabbani government had been negotiating with an Argentinean consortium called Bridas to build the pipeline. This angered the Four Horsemen, who backed a Unocal-led consortium known as Centgas. In 2005 Unocal became part of Chevron. Many citizens of Kabul were convinced that the CIA had brought the Taliban to power on behalf of Big Oil. [7]

The Four Horsemen were busy exploiting their new Caspian Sea oil and gas reserves in the newly formed Central Asian Republics just north of Afghanistan. Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan contain vast crude oil reserves estimated at over 200 billion barrels. Neighboring Turkmenistan is a virtual gas republic, containing some of the largest deposits of natural gas on earth. The biggest gas field is at Dauletabad in the southeast of the country near the Afghan border. All told there are an estimated 6.6 trillion cubic feet of natural gas in the Caspian Sea region.

The Centgas consortium also planned to build a pipeline which would connect oil fields around Chardzhan, Turkmenistan to the Siberian oilfields further north. [8] Turkmenistan also has vast reserves of oil, copper, coal, tungsten, zinc, uranium and gold.

With Rabbani out of the picture, Centgas began negotiating in earnest with the Taliban for rights to build their pipeline from Dauletbad across Afghanistan and Pakistan to the port of Karachi, where a US Naval base was in the works on a 100-acre site given mysteriously handed over to Omani Sultan Qaboos.

The Four Horsemen brought with them to Central Asia some loyal Saudi business partners. Saudi billionaire Sheik Khalid bin Mahfouz- owner of BCCI and National Commercial Bank and an enthusiastic supporter of the mujahadeen- embraced the Taliban. Bin Mahfouz- whose net worth is over $2 billion- controls Nimir Petroleum, a partner with Chevron Texaco in developing a 1.5 billion barrel Kazakhstan oil field. A Saudi Arabian government audit found that bin Mahfouz’ National Commercial Bank had transferred over $3 million to Osama bin Laden charities in 1999. [9]

Saudi-owned Delta Oil was a partner with Amerada Hess in Azerbaijan oil ventures. Delta-Hess is part of a Bechtel-led group building the $2.4 billion Caspian Pipeline Consortium’s trans-Turkey pipeline to the Russian Black Sea port of Novorosisskyk. Delta Oil is also a partner in Centgas.

According to French writer Olivier Roy, “When the Taliban took power in Afghanistan, it was largely orchestrated by the Pakistani secret service (ISI) and the oil company Unocal, with its Saudi ally Delta”. [10]

In January 1998 Centgas agreed to pay the Taliban government $100 million a year to run their gas pipeline across Afghanistan. Centgas arranged high-level meetings in Washington between Taliban officials and the State Department.

Representing Unocal was Zalmay Khalilzad, who was Assistant Undersecretary of Defense in the Bush Sr. Administration and worked at Cambridge Energy Research Associates before working at Unocal. Khalilzad was born in Mazar-i-Sharif to wealthy Afghan aristocrats. His father was an aide to King Zaher Shah. Khalilzad also worked at Rand Corporation- long a CIA asset. [11] Khalilzad left his post at Unocal to join the National Security Council in the Bush Jr. Administration. [12] In 2002 Bush appointed Khalilzad as the first US envoy to Afghanistan in over 20 years. The first item on his agenda was to revive talks on building the Centgas pipeline.

Bin Mahfouz was under investigation for funding Osama bin Laden’s al Qaeda terror network. He was represented in the US by Washington law firm Akin, Gump, Strauss, Hauer & Feld. The firm represents the House of Saud and the world’s largest Islamic charity- the Saudi-based Holy Land Foundation for Development and Relief. Within three months of the 911 terror attacks, Treasury had frozen the assets of the Saudi foundation. Akin, Gump successfully defended bin Mahfouz when the BCCI scandal broke. Three partners at the firm are good friends of President George W. Bush. Partner James C. Langdon is one of Bush’s closest friends. George Salem was involved in Bush campaign fundraising. Barnett “Sandy” Cress was appointed by Bush to head a White House-sponsored education initiative. [13]

READ ON AT,


http://www.globalresearch.ca/afghan-history-al-qaeda-the-taliban-and-the-texas-oil-giants/24318
RexRed
 
  2  
Mon 31 Mar, 2014 11:46 pm
@raprap,
Totally agree. I took News Max off my reading list quite a while ago.

I can't bring myself to read anything News Max posts.
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RexRed
 
  1  
Tue 1 Apr, 2014 12:58 am
@JTT,
Soviet war crimes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_war_crimes

Soviet war in Afghanistan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_war_in_Afghanistan#Destruction_in_Afghanistan

excerpts:
..estimated that Soviet forces were responsible for 250,000 democidal killings during the war (that is just by demolitions)

The population of Afghanistan's second largest city, Kandahar, was reduced from 200,000 before the war to no more than 25,000 inhabitants, following a months-long campaign of carpet bombing and bulldozing by the Soviets

A great deal of damage was done to the civilian children population by land mines.[137] A 2005 report estimated 3–4% of the Afghan population were disabled due to Soviet and government land mines. In the city of Quetta, a survey of refugee women and children taken shortly after the Soviet withdrawal found child mortality at 31%, and over 80% of the children refugees to be unregistered. Of children who survived, 67% were severely malnourished, with malnutrition increasing with age.[138]

There have also been numerous reports of chemical weapons being used by Soviet forces in Afghanistan, often indiscriminately against civilians.

Comment:
I suppose the U.S. should have gone into Afghanistan as namby pamby push-over clowns. (cynical)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_33Kc2KRkhrc/TUM6yfLPSbI/AAAAAAAAApI/so6syEwK4bQ/s1600/bop+bag.jpg

Once the Soviets withdrew, US interest in Afghanistan slowly decreased over the following four years, much of it administered through the DoD Office of Humanitarian Assistance,

America did not spend billions of dollars and go into Afghanistan as invaders but liberators and humanitarians.

JTT you have lowered yourself nearly to the level of CJ...

Also...
Hitler Hitler Hitler!!!!

You seem to forget President Obama was ELECTED twice by a majority of the American people.

Hitler was appointed, NOT voted in. The moment Hitler was in office he abolished the Constitution and established a dictatorship and the office of the fuhrer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_presidential_election,_1932

No similarity whatsoever.

President Obama has strengthened the labor party on his watch not back stabbed it.

Did your buddy Vlad help write the article you posted?
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mysteryman
 
  0  
Tue 1 Apr, 2014 01:19 am
@MontereyJack,
BTW, Clinton didnt do it either.
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RexRed
 
  1  
Tue 1 Apr, 2014 01:19 am
@JTT,
Obamacare brings coverage to at least 9.5 million
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/03/31/1288598/-Obamacare-brings-coverage-to-at-least-9-5-nbsp-million?detail=facebook

http://s3.amazonaws.com/dk-production/images/61401/large/Obama_get_covered.jpg?1386880054

Comment:
JTT, Hitler exterminated the minorities in Germany...

Hitler also did not spend nearly six years of his err,"dictatorship" making sure ALL Germans had affordable health care...

JTT, I think you own President Obama an apology...
anonymously99
 
  0  
Tue 1 Apr, 2014 01:41 am
@RexRed,
Thought Hitler was racist?
RexRed
 
  2  
Tue 1 Apr, 2014 01:49 am
@anonymously99,
anonymously99 wrote:

Thought Hitler was racist?


Yes he was a racist of the worst kind....
RexRed
 
  1  
Tue 1 Apr, 2014 01:51 am
This One Simple Graphic Explains The Difference Between Climate Science And Climate Politics
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/03/27/3419542/climate-science-vs-climate-politics-graphic/

One more reason to ditch the repugs, vote 'em out 2014.
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anonymously99
 
  -1  
Tue 1 Apr, 2014 01:52 am
@RexRed,
I had the idea. Hope you continuously enjoy your ongoing conversation.
RexRed
 
  1  
Tue 1 Apr, 2014 02:13 am
@anonymously99,
anonymously99 wrote:

I had the idea. Hope you continuously enjoy your ongoing conversation.


You're cool bro Smile
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RexRed
 
  1  
Tue 1 Apr, 2014 02:13 am
Obamacare fails to fail, GOP notwithstanding
http://on.msnbc.com/1gJiAWI
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RexRed
 
  1  
Tue 1 Apr, 2014 03:31 am
Finally, a socialist republican with some err, balls...
on.msnbc.com/1gJlESP
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RexRed
 
  1  
Tue 1 Apr, 2014 03:53 am
GOP's Obamacare spite means death toll for red states
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/03/30/1287923/-GOP-s-Obamacare-spite-means-death-toll-for-red-states?detail=facebook

It also means higher premiums for everyone else which with only hurt the economy..

err, and all those dead republican voters...
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