cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Fri 6 Dec, 2013 11:03 pm
@parados,
Here's more of GW Bush's Part D program.

http://twitchy.com/2013/11/14/flashback-nancy-pelosi-berates-george-w-bush-for-confusing-medicare-part-d-program/

The funnier aspect of "once it's the law" is that the GOP is still working hard to defund and repeal it. 50 times so far.
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Fri 6 Dec, 2013 11:35 pm
The facts seem to be taking a back seat to the theory. What Obama has tried has failed.
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neologist
 
  1  
Fri 6 Dec, 2013 11:43 pm
@parados,
Had not known about that. But would it not be reasonable to expect such problems would not infect ACA? It will be a real problem for those who, in January, seek medical care and find themselves SOL.

I expect I will solve my issues with the Washington State site before the Dec. deadline. As a last resort, I know where some of the offices are and will camp out until it gets done. We will pretend to be happy that the basic plan includes prenatal care as long as it permits us the option of adding dental, vision, and catastrophic illness, all at a net cost of 1/3 her current rate. Then we will thank folks in CI's tax bracket for the subsidy.
RexRed
 
  1  
Sat 7 Dec, 2013 12:18 am
@neologist,
neologist wrote:

Had not known about that. But would it not be reasonable to expect such problems would not infect ACA? It will be a real problem for those who, in January, seek medical care and find themselves SOL.

I expect I will solve my issues with the Washington State site before the Dec. deadline. As a last resort, I know where some of the offices are and will camp out until it gets done. We will pretend to be happy that the basic plan includes prenatal care as long as it permits us the option of adding dental, vision, and catastrophic illness, all at a net cost of 1/3 her current rate. Then we will thank folks in CI's tax bracket for the subsidy.


You can then thank the entire democratic party and a couple caring republicans for the 60 vote majority that passed the ACA in the face of near total republican opposition. You can thank the democrats in the voting booth Neo...

Let's get the republicans/tea party out of office and see if our democratic party really has the will to help rebuild the middle class that has been decimated by the Citizens United ruling and the political bribery of the GOP.

Let's not forget too that the ACA was implemented while the democrats had control of a nearly filibuster proof House of Representatives. The democrats have proven their credibility time and again.
neologist
 
  1  
Sat 7 Dec, 2013 12:55 am
@RexRed,
Actually, we could easily continue at the present rate and were satisfied with the current plan. Now the plan is not the same and someone else is paying her bill, someone whose payments have multiplied by the same factor hers have been reduced.
RexRed
 
  2  
Sat 7 Dec, 2013 01:24 am
https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1479440_611322418903441_178350225_n.jpg
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RexRed
 
  2  
Sat 7 Dec, 2013 01:35 am
@neologist,
neologist wrote:

Actually, we could easily continue at the present rate and were satisfied with the current plan. Now the plan is not the same and someone else is paying her bill, someone whose payments have multiplied by the same factor hers have been reduced.


You can't really say your policy was fine till you actually go to use it and that was when the insurance companies were consistently refusing to pay out on many types of treatments.

The insurance companies used "being a female" as a "pre-existing condition".

Many women have died at the hands of insurance companies refusing to pay for treatments.

Excerpt from this article: Insurance cancelled? Don't blame Obama or the ACA, blame America's insurance companies

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/11/05/insurance-cancelled-dont-blame-obama-or-aca-blame-america-insurance-companies/

The fact is if you are one of the estimated 2 million Americans whose health insurance plans may have been cancelled this month, you should not be blaming President Obama or the Affordable Care Act.

You should be blaming your insurance company because they have not been providing you with coverage that meets the minimum basic standards for health care.

Let me put it more bluntly: your insurance companies have been taking advantage of you and the Affordable Care Act puts in place consumer protection and tells them to stop abusing people.

Comment: Consider Neo, if insurance companies would cancel your policy due to the ACA, they would have also canceled it due to an illness...

Better for this to come out now than when you really needed help.

You can thank President Obama for uncovering this insurance scam YOU have been paying for...


Excerpt from this article: The Real Story Behind the Phony Canceled Health Insurance Scandal
Insurance companies ripped off Americans for years with lousy health plans. Obama care was designed to fix that.

In 2009, when President Barack Obama first promised that people who liked their insurance coverage would be able to keep it under the Affordable Care Act, he overlooked one critical fact: Many of the health policies that Americans like are terrible insurance plans that were created to scam consumers.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/11/obamacare-canceled-health-insurance

Comment: Go get some REAL insurance Neo through the ACA exchange and have some peace of mind...
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RexRed
 
  2  
Sat 7 Dec, 2013 02:48 am
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parados
 
  2  
Sat 7 Dec, 2013 11:05 am
@neologist,
neologist wrote:

Actually, we could easily continue at the present rate and were satisfied with the current plan. Now the plan is not the same and someone else is paying her bill, someone whose payments have multiplied by the same factor hers have been reduced.

I guess if you assume there are only 2 people in the US and they both have insurance then you would be correct.

In reality, there are a lot of us paying the more expensive bill for those without insurance that end up in an ER. By having more people on insurance the bill we pay through increased insurance rates and government subsidies for the indigent will go down.
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RABEL222
 
  1  
Sat 7 Dec, 2013 11:13 am
@neologist,
Who exactly is someone. This statement is kind of ambagious.
neologist
 
  1  
Sat 7 Dec, 2013 11:28 am
@RABEL222,
I didn't catch the name. Could be parados . . .. maybe rex
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neologist
 
  1  
Sat 7 Dec, 2013 11:34 am
@RexRed,
That reminds me. Before I voted for Goldwater, they told me if I did, we would have race riots, expanded war in Vietnam, etc. So, like a dummy, I voted for him anyway and got what I deserved, race riots, expanded war in Vietnam, etc. etc.

By demonizing only one party you catch only half the crooks.
RexRed
 
  1  
Sat 7 Dec, 2013 01:31 pm
@neologist,
neologist wrote:

That reminds me. Before I voted for Goldwater, they told me if I did, we would have race riots, expanded war in Vietnam, etc. So, like a dummy, I voted for him anyway and got what I deserved, race riots, expanded war in Vietnam, etc. etc.

By demonizing only one party you catch only half the crooks.


Here is a democrap freak worth passing over in the voting booth...

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/week-god-85

The commercial was launched this week by Sen. Mark Pryor of Arkansas, widely considered one of the most vulnerable Democratic incumbents in the 2014 cycle.
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RexRed
 
  2  
Sat 7 Dec, 2013 02:03 pm


One interview where Bill Maher, Rachel Maddow and a few others were talking about taxes...

Bill remarked about how high his taxes were. This at first floored me.

I thought another rich person complaining about paying taxes... Then over time I realized this.

It is okay for a rich person to complain out loud about their taxes. This is a healthy sign that they are actually paying their taxes like a loyal US citizen should...

The problem is the rich people who make much more money than Maher who do not contribute one red dime to the betterment of our country and who take these tax revenues and exorbitant profits and bribe senators and representatives into changing ecological and economic policies so they can frack, pollute and dirty our rivers, streams and drinking water with toxins...

These corporate persons are the problem with America. They don't pay taxes and they don't pay their employees a fair living wage.

Rather than disdain for Bill Maher's comments I have garnered a real respect for the man. Someone who is rich and actually pays taxes deserves our admiration. That is how it works...
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RexRed
 
  1  
Sat 7 Dec, 2013 03:14 pm
Simply being human is not enough, we must also be humane... RR
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RexRed
 
  1  
Sat 7 Dec, 2013 04:17 pm
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RexRed
 
  1  
Sat 7 Dec, 2013 04:19 pm
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1496225_588692097867612_2086579224_o.jpg
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RexRed
 
  1  
Sat 7 Dec, 2013 04:44 pm
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RexRed
 
  1  
Sat 7 Dec, 2013 05:22 pm
California GOP defends its fake health insurance web site
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/04/1260169/-California-GOP-defends-its-fake-health-insurance-web-site?
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RexRed
 
  1  
Sat 7 Dec, 2013 05:38 pm
Pathetic Centrists
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/12/06/pathetic-centrists/?_r=0
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