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Should America become a monarchy?

 
 
Moment-in-Time
 
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Reply Thu 4 Apr, 2013 06:39 pm
@RABEL222,
Quote:

Unfortunately we do have royalty in the U S. Rather than call them king or queen or duke or other such terms we call them rich and politician.


Oh I'm not referring to famously well-known persons, like political families, i.e., the Kennedy clan etc. I was referring to the real thing, an Institution of Monarchy and all its trappings that so attract the world's attention.
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glitterbag
 
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Reply Sun 26 May, 2013 09:48 am
How would you pick a monarch? Vote?? Anybody see the irony.
Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 26 May, 2013 10:00 am
@glitterbag,
That's not without precedent, you know. Before Prussia, Russia and Austria swallowed the nation up, Poland elected their kings. The Anglo-Saxons did not automatically follow primogeniture. When Æthelred of Wessex died of wounds in 871, he was succeeded, not by his oldest son, but by his brother, Ælfrǣd, also known as Alfred the Great. His eldest son was too young, in the opinion of the Earldomen and thegns, the aristocracy of Wessex, and they wanted someone who was able to deal with the crisis of the Danish invasion. Electing kings is not such an odd idea.
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saab
 
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Reply Sun 26 May, 2013 10:01 am
@glitterbag,
Who had colonies in the land which became USA
The French, The British, The Spaniards and Sweden even had Delaware for a few years.

Select one of the royal sons or daughters in these countries and you have a real royl family.

Personally I do not think USA should be a monarchy. It is not something you become. It is an old tradition one keeps up.
glitterbag
 
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Reply Sun 26 May, 2013 07:52 pm
@saab,
I think it falls under the category "not a snowballs chance".
RABEL222
 
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Reply Mon 27 May, 2013 09:07 am
@glitterbag,
Some years ago I thought starting two unfunded wars and an unfunded drug plan dident have a snowballs chance. Be careful what you dismiss as impossible.
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ZarathustraReborn
 
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Reply Thu 30 May, 2013 12:10 pm
@Setanta,
1940s - nuked Japan.
Death toll: 145,000 to date in Nagasaki, 250,000 in Hiroshima

1947-49 - U.S. helps command extreme-right Greece party in Civil War.
Death toll: about 70,000 contributed by US-backed forces

1948-54 - CIA directs war against Huk Rebellion in Philippines.
Death toll: about 11,000

1950 - Independence movement crushed in Ponce, Puerto Rico
Death toll: conservative historians estimated about 8,000 peasants

1950-53 - Korean War
Death toll: about 1,776,000

1952 - CIA overthrows Democracy in Iran, installs Shah
Death toll: about 20,000

1954 - CIA directs invasion of Guatemala after new Democracy there nationalized U.S.-occupied lands
Death toll: about 140,000 missing and dead

1958 - In Lebanon, marine occupation against rebels
Death toll: about 2,000

1960-75+ - Vietnam War including Cambodia and Laos
Death toll: about 4,502,000 including civilians and resulting famines (conservative estimates)

1961 - Cuba's Bay of Pigs Invasion fails
Death toll: about 4,000

1963 - In Iraq, CIA organizes coup against President and agrees to back formerly exiled Saddam
Death toll: about 7,000 including civilians

1964 - In Panama, troops kill protesters against US-owned canal
Death toll: about 1,000

1965 - CIA assists Indonesian coup
Death toll: about 900,000

1966 - Troops and bombers threaten pro-communist parties in Dominican Republic
Death toll: about 3,000

1966-96 - Green berets in Guatemala against rebels, US backs pro-American forces in country until 1996
Death toll: about 200,000

1970 - Directs marine invasion of Oman
Death toll: about 2,000

1973 - CIA directs coup to oust elected Marxist president in Chile
Death toll: 30,000... 3,000 later disappeared under US-installed dictator

1976-92 - CIA assists South-African rebels in Angola
Death toll: median estimate at 550,000

1981-90 - CIA directs Contra invasions in Nicaragua
Death toll: median estimate at 30,000

1982-84 - Marines expel Lebanese rebels, aided by Israel
Death toll: 40,000

1987-88 - US intervenes for Iraq against Iran
Death toll: about 150,000 during time-frame, 100,000 during Desert Storm, 350,000 from resulting famine

1989 - US invades to oust CIA-installed Panamanian government gone rouge
Death toll: 2,000

1992-94 - US-led occupation of Somalia during civil war
Death toll: 50,000 in combat, 300,000 by starvation

2001+ - US Occupies Afghanistan
Death toll: 120,000 including civilians and combatants and resulting Opium Wars

2003+ - Iraqi War
Death toll: 665,000 also by starvation, displacement


TOTAL: 10,431,000

And that doesn't even include POWs, classified information, and WW2 pre-nuke!
Source(s):
http://japanifik.wordpress.com/2008/08/0
http://www.asahi.com/english/Herald-asah
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat3
http://www.puertorico-herald.org/issues/
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia
http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/st
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Pigs
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6
Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 30 May, 2013 12:48 pm
@ZarathustraReborn,
Which has what to do with anything i've posted? Enjoy your fanatical hatred, Bubba.
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count markovalley
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jun, 2013 06:50 pm
@matttheroman,
don't you think it already is?
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Foofie
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jun, 2013 10:29 am
A monarchy is only the tip of the proverbial iceberg. Why not an aristocracy for specific interests? For example, the descendants of the best sports figures could get aristocratic titles. In this way, our aristocracy would reflect a diversity of races, ethnicities, religions, and genders?

It might also put to rest any attempt to make soccer a national sport to complete with current national sports.
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