English version for what Hegal says:

Hegal said something like this:

China does not have a real history; its only "history" is simply a dogged repeating of the ancient social system.

(My translation from Chinese context)

What I want is its original English version.

If you mean Georg Hegel, you won't find the original English because he wrote in German, his native language. I've looked around for such a quote, and he certainly wrote a great deal about history (almost all of which i saw is rubbish), but i've found no such comment on China.

oristarA wrote:

What I want is its original English version.

In both form and content your query provides a classic illustration of what Hegel (not Hegal) said in the original German (not English) version.

The text in which that quote can be found is: Vorlesungen über die Philosophie der Geschichte, by Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel.

Since you are unable or unwilling to look up the simplest things, and invariably expect others to do your work for you, you most probably also support a philosopher whom Hegel held in low esteem, Lao Tzu - and for much the same reason he held the exact view you quote on Chinese history.

Specifically, Hegel followed the unswerving Western tradition of getting to the truth through precise definition and determination ("Bestimmung" in the original) used by all of our philosophers barring none starting with the presocratics of ancient Greece. Lao Tzu is typical of the Oriental approach of waiting for the "miao" of "heaven and earth" (generally translated as the "meaning of things") to appear by itself without doing anything about it. Given infinite time that may well come about - either that or some charitable westerner eventually loses patience and explains things to you. No, don't thank me

That's rather naïve of you. The original translation into English could be utter crap. At any event, i did not find the quote, so i don't have anyone's English translation to offer you. I will only spend so much time online searching for things for other people, and your time is up. My advice is that you do a search, and that you use this criterion: "Hegel+quotes+history." Good luck.

.....We have a warning example in China — a nation of much talent, and, in some respects, even wisdom, owing to the rare good fortune of having been provided at an early period with a particularly good set of customs, the work, in some measure, of men to whom even the most enlightened European must accord, under certain limitations, the title of sages and philosophers. They are remarkable, too, in the excellence of their apparatus for impressing, as far as possible, the best wisdom they possess upon every mind in the community, and securing that those who have appropriated most of it shall occupy the posts of honor and power. Surely the people who did this have discovered the secret of human progressiveness, and must have kept themselves steadily at the head of the movement of the world. On the contrary, they have become stationary — have remained so for thousands of years; and if they are ever to be farther improved, it must be by foreigners.

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is used by the British. With Americans you get some ribbing about it.

Ther are plenty of them if you read comic books or the weekend comics. Yikes, Good Heavens, Krikey, OMG, Damn, holy mackeral, holy whatever, sh*t, etc.