If a man claims to be Jesus today, how can you tell if it is true or false?

You should really read Letters to Earth by Mark Twain.

That is very good. I much prefer Twain's short stories and essays to his longer works. I've tried reading 'Roughing It,' three times and always got about two thirds through before I put it down and started reading something else. It does have a woderful pocket guide to Mormonism though. My favourite religious inspired literature is William Blake's The Marriage Of Heaven And Hell, especially if you get the edition with all the artwork.

s.s. finn i guess i did misread your post...were just going around in circles now and its starting to make my head spin...what you look at is supposivly quote unquote factual evidence of non exhistance in a supreme being just further enhances the idea and concept of faith (there is no rebuttle for that end of story. either you agree or don't, it can't simply be both, sorry!) and if you look at it as there then CAN be faith that indeed exhist, but you chose not to accept and are difinative in believing in that GOD simply does't exsist. Then I tell you by not just saying there Can indeed be faith that exhist all around us...I again either FREE WILL Choose to except and go deeper or outright reject and go farther away... that is The core essential that decides where in fact your direct choice in the concept of faith goes and where it ultimately leads...If you take a leap of Faith in the direction to say there is no God. By your actions and free choice your idealism of the concept of faith you have chosen to NOT believe and hence, You will find no God (Jesus isn't going to correct you if you don't wish to believe. he gives according to works and deeds. He will just give you peace as he stated in the Bible and you and others on here have said that they are content with. if so then you are reaping you reward now in this life just as you have asked. that is what you want and strive to believe therfore he is delievering it to you. ) Jesus is only going to correct you once YOU take the leap of faith in the positive direction in my eyes, then he will ENDLESSLY correct you all the time. and show you the way! Now if you disbelieve because you need a sign, ( it is permissable to have it done so. because he says an evil generaton will seek after a sign which is imminate or we wouldn't even be debating this. but if it takes a sign for you to start believing then it is best off for your sake hence him using good to triumpe evil. then say this simple prayer and be openminded about it a Pray in The name of Jesus Christ for a sign to start believing and it will happen...that is your sign! Your faith decides where or what the outcome will be not God's faith in you. For it always has and always will exhist. he want us to show us it to him! proving faith and obediance , and if you take the leap of faith toward believing at all cost you will find it! the choice relighes on you. that is what i have been trying to hammer out for 3 days now.

Another way of describing it is Seed, Time and Harvest. Your seed is what you faith out...your time is your obedience to it. and your harvest is what you reap back in...Jesus said whatever you give in my name will be given back 100 fold in THIS life and I haven't seen a concrete description of the exact number in Heaven but I think it is somewhere around reaping in 1000 fold in Heaven...So if you faith out disbelieve in Jesus...you reap 100 fold more disbelieve till YOU choose to start believing in him and if you faith out a seed of faith how every much you contenetly faith out you will be repaid 100 fold here and 1000 fold there...if you faith out love you receive 100 fold and 1000 fold etc...same with patience etc...all things...so my goal is to faith it ALL out seeing that I am repayed and anxiously await the reeping in Heaven etc...and in turn when i receive here on earth I faith out another seed etc...If you deny the whole concept mainly the start in faithing out how then can you ever exspect a harvest from God? If you deny obediance toward your seed. your raping you seed of expectations...and when the seed leaves your hand, God lets go of what he has in his hand simply put...hence for and noway i can utterly describe to the fullest. It starts with YOUR faith in God. and if you need to start somewhere as to proof in God. Ask that God will give you faith in him and it will be done...then the whole process of you believing and being converted will happen...etc

still need proof? you put a seed in a womb it brings forth life...a seed falls from a tree. the tree bears fruit etc...

and in the end if all are judged according to works and deeds then I see that one has to truly be very foolish and decietful in the end to not make it into Heaven. and there are almost endless chances to believe...which is good for all of us! you in a sense will endour countless pain and suffering while at the same time be shown Jesus is the way the life the truth...and still have to reject to TRULY be separated from God for eternity.

anyone who is content with life shows that they are faith seeding all they are receiving from earth...hence being repaid 100 fold...hence forth continueing your faith in the continually faithing out of what you reap toward a new seed toward the world...but when you faith that seed out toward God that is when you receive back faith in God 100 fold etc...

And to further demonstrate... we all believe we were concieved and born. we are not divided on that. at some point in our lives WE make the conscious decision to either believe that there is a God and to me to go further we need a savior. or we make a conscious choice in believing there is no God henceforth no need for a savior...no one is born straight out of the womb and understands these concepts or automatically believes or doesn't believe....In all we hold the key to our choices...

God(s) have been created by man for centuries before your Jesus was born. Religion is usually based on culture, and how they progressed to accepting many different religions and gods as we see today in many countries. Hinduism alone has thousands of gods, and their adherents believe in many of them. They also pray and make many sacrifices to their god(s). Religious practices have many different kinds of rituals, and those of the faith will chant, sing, and pray as they were taught - usually by their parents. I call religion an accident of birth. If you are born in India, you would probably believe in the Hindu gods. If Japan, China, or Korea, probably Buddhism. In Indonesia, probably Islam, and in Israel, probably Judaism. In South America, most are Catholics. In the US, the majority are christians. If your parents were christian, you're also probably a christian.

Your religion was brain-washed on you since you were an infant. It's no different than any other religion. That's how gods are perpetuated by humans.

CI .... you said it all ( truth that is ) in 6 lines of factual writing, now watch the religious one's down load a couple of dozen lines of Mystical gobbledygook, and prove to themselves you are wrong.

that is amazing because I thought I remembered saying that in the point of my conversion...I searched a lot and almost every religion I could fathom...and still do so today...for if not why am i hear listening to an Atheistic view point? And why are you debating with A Christian? again since your views are based on factual evidence...explain this to me with physical facts and not the fact that it is indeed a perception you have and others on here have...rendering it impossible to be proven with Physical Factual evidence. but that it is indeed crossing the boundries of fact and faith...proven they both exsist and have merit...

(Religious practices have many different kinds of rituals, and those of the faith will chant, sing, and pray as they were taught - usually by their parents. I call religion an accident of birth. If you are born in India, you would probably believe in the Hindu gods. If Japan, China, or Korea, probably Buddhism. In Indonesia, probably Islam, and in Israel, probably Judaism. In South America, most are Catholics. In the US, the majority are christians. If your parents were christian, you're also probably a christian.

Your religion was brain-washed on you since you were an infant. It's no different than any other religion. That's how gods are perpetuated by humans.)

henceforth if it is indeed a perception...sheds light to the fact that there is indeed at least ONE true GOD giving perceptions to you and all...problem is I believe you are then taking the perception and listening to Satan oppossed to
God...And I know a lot who were raised Christian and are now Atheist...so your point is flawed...or they would be raised Christian and still be Christian etc...

also you sum that as your theory as truth...Christians are thinking out side the box where as Atheists believe in ONLY what THEY can comprehend...what you label Christians as imaginary I label (if you will) as thinking more dimensionally and the way you think atheists think you label truth and I label one dimensional or one9mindedly (always derived in oneself)...example, You can't phyiscaly see the form and demensions of time's exhistance (the 4th demension) ...yet you grasp and accept it exhist...how is this so then? or you have never actually witness one singular person having or holding 1 trillion dollers in there life but Factual evidence supports that someday somewhere in the world. If we live long enough it WILL happen...how then is this so? we witness the world being poluted...but at the same time we see the world going greener? tell us please then for future generations what will indeed happen because we ought not waste our time...if we are going to die because of polutedness we ought to start to create live on another planet NOWvto get a head start!...and if you see we are going greener please help us so that we can speed things up! to help future generation...or is it not for us to worry about these things since it won't or may not come to a fester in YOUR life time...


And I know a lot who were raised Christian and are now Atheist...so your point is flawed...or they would be raised Christian and still be Christian etc... as well as Atheists who are converted to other religions and Christianity...as what happened in my conversion and many others etc...again such as some Stigmata's...

And if I am slandering you in any way opposed to you slandering me explain to me why someone is PURPOSLY going out of there way to vote my posts down and yet I am not doing it likewize to them? or for that matter toward ANY atheistic person??? Simply put because I value your point but just don't see compleatness in it...where as if your content...at least if we disagree, FRIENDSHIPS should be an assest to you an or ANY belief system....

CI .... you said it all ( truth that is ) in 6 lines of factual writing, now watch the religious one's down load a couple of dozen lines of Mystical gobbledygook, and prove to themselves you are wrong.

And tender foot that is the whole thing (concepts) were I am trying to show you, not myself the truth...focus in on the fact i don't take gratification in whether I am right or wrong...I take gratification in the fact that someday we ALL will know the truth...atheist believe they have already found it...others just choose to believe they know it and it will be shown to ALL of us not only certain groups...this whole mindset opens the doors to anyone, any ethnicity practice etc...in believing in God and need for a savior...by saying you are content by life itself...what will you say now or leave for future generations say 500 years from now, who with factual evidence now shows they will be worse off then us now? and hence us worse than then the world was 500 years before us...Factual examples. Global warming, wars, famine, murders, pollution, poverty etc...will you say now for them to them, in those days to be content with life it is exceptable for them to steal in order to eat because of famine?...or will you say to them...it is exceptable to rob because they are poor? or perhaps it is exceptable to litter because the world is already been polluted etc...the answer I feel should always be no...and the buttom line is by Atheistic views each generation is blessed more and so has more so it is good for them because by your views they can DO more and be MORE and MORE content in each generation. in there personal choices...but by simple Factual examples it is as the Bible stats and will be WORSE off...that destroys the whole concept of contentness comes from oneself...inside, but rather shows factual proof, that inevidably there is no way to a greater place or as you state contentness than denying ONESELF and following a Savior. which breaks down the doors on boundriends and makes it limitless...

What the hell is a "boundriend?" I have no doubt that your ability to imagine completely implausible, goofy justifications for your superstition is indeed boundless.

sorry things that are bound...

I have no doubt that your ability to imagine completely implausible, goofy justifications for your superstition is indeed boundless.

is seeing factually by evidence, that the world will be worse off then better. simply looking from past till now. show a Goofy justifaction that the world will be EVEN worse off then it is today? if it is not and your right I applaude you, oh wait I can't do it...but if your wrong AGAIN, what would you tell the world today for future generations to read , So that they may know how one should be Content?...if the core belief is oneself to be content...Is it exceptable in your eyes that in those days one who needs food is permissable to steal? or one who needs money to rob? one who lives on a polluted world because of us and themselves it is excetable to not care and pollute or to worry and stop littering for even further generations? etc...

please just answer the question with facts (these are you views not mine)... i really don't care for a riddle game going back and forth...

xxspademasterxx says

And if I am slandering you in any way opposed to you slandering me explain to me why someone is PURPOSLY going out of there way to vote my posts down and yet I am not doing it likewize to them?

Why do you care? What is important is the discussion/arguement. I don't vote on anyones' posts either up or down. Well actually that's not true I did at first, but only because I didn't understand how to use the mouse interface. Don't worry about it. Some people will vote you down just because you're a Christian. I do think that's a bit of a shame, because you do seem quite sincere and fairly reasonable, not like some of the bloody religious nutters I've been arguing with. So, (and this may seem a bit heretical) just go with the flow on this. Be like the river as Buddha said follow the path of least resistance. (Almost had a bit of a typo there, almost wrote lez resistance, and that's something else.) It will happen anyway there's nothing you can do about it so just accept it.

What factual evidence do you have which means that your religious notions are not superstition? You have asked more than one question, i am not obliged to answer any of your questions, and i am not obliged to disprove your imaginary friend superstition. You're prating about facts and factual evidence, so it should be a matter of the greatest simplicity for you to present the facts which confirm your claims.

It's not evidence of anything other than if there is a heaven those who go there don't want to report back or are unable to

As for answered prayers, I'm sure you can find millions of people who believe they're prayers were answered.

Ignore him. He is crazy. Just like any christian who thinks that if indeed Jesus were to come back he would condone their religion, much less follow it, is clearly not thinking straight.

XXSMXX .... I find my one and a bit line more understandable than your 12 lines of Gobbledygook. but thanks for taking the trouble.... by the way I have no thoughts on God's don't even care if there is or isn't, but am very interested in reading the funny replies that religious people come up with and I my thinking that when they die,their God's die with them.

You mean besides Jesus and Lazareth.

I see none answered my questions...except one half answered it in saying they don't feel inclined in anyway to answer...never the less, I am perplexed on your views as to, What one who believes in self contentness would do or say to answer or prepare future generations? Up till now the Atheistic view points have answered all my questions, or (maybe not ness. answered but came back with a question rather than a definative answer in my book) but do you believe I have stumped you? if so, then no answer is acceptable to me...but if you feel compelled your views are correct, then there should be factual proof as to your suggestions for future generation etc...