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If a man claims to be Jesus today, how can you tell if it is true or false?

 
 
oolongteasup
 
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Reply Thu 1 Sep, 2011 08:24 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Bejesus.
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Fri 2 Sep, 2011 01:43 am
@oolongteasup,
exactly if I suck at things, just be like Jesus...that's it in a nutshell...

sorry reply was meant for cic...
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 2 Sep, 2011 10:05 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
How can anyone be like jesus? He (the one in the bible) didn't exist - or you can find thousands in Hispanic countries.
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sun 4 Sep, 2011 12:27 pm
@cicerone imposter,
they are pronouned (he zues) where as Jesus is Jesus...please don't play dumb when your smarter than that....it makes you seem deceptive....( to me personally)
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 4 Sep, 2011 12:33 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
Pronunciation based on culture is a cop-out. It's still "Jesus." Pronounced the same from the bible.
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sun 4 Sep, 2011 12:43 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I guess if that is really how you look at it....point was for more meaning than that....see my posts as to How you know Jesus is the REAL Jesus....not a cop-out of Jesus, than your in Mexico....which whether your willing to admit or not....(is a cheap shot) rather than an answer....
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XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Thu 8 Dec, 2011 07:08 pm
@TheEnlightenedOne,
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[The man god says to you: grab pen and paper and write down everything I say, carefully. "This is the second installment of the new testament and it supersedes everything else that has been written about me, God your Lord. Write it down and then spread the good news, the new gospel!" What do you do?

Pretty easy one here, if he's coming to you saying this, than you have 2 choices. either do it, or don't....but You would have to believe if he was coming to you saying this, than he has ALREADY chosen you to do it....and if he is God, than he probably would not have chosen you, if he understands that in the end you would not do as he says...

Reread my posts in there, I think it around page 14 or so, as to how you would know exactly if it was the Messiah or not....Actually I will link it brb...
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Thu 8 Dec, 2011 07:14 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
Here is an answer to your original post Enlightened....

easy one...if the Bible is right no one will EVER come in the second comming outright proclaiming he is Jesus...Jesus says, people will say there is the Messiah out in the desert, in the inner rooms, DO NOT GO OUT AND LOOK! for the second commming will be like flashes of lightning to take the rightous away before end times...

Matthew 24:23-36 (New King James Version)

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Matthew 24:23-36

New King James Version (NKJV)

(23 “Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There!’ do not believe it. 24 For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you beforehand.
26 “Therefore if they say to you, ‘Look, He is in the desert!’ do not go out; or ‘Look, He is in the inner rooms!’ do not believe it. 27 For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. 28 For wherever the carcass is, there the eagles will be gathered together.
The Coming of the Son of Man

29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
The Parable of the Fig Tree

32 “Now learn this parable from the fig tree: When its branch has already become tender and puts forth leaves, you know that summer is near. 33 So you also, when you see all these things, know that it[a] is near—at the doors! 34 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away.
No One Knows the Day or Hour

36 “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only.)


(http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+24%3A23-36&version=NKJV)
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Cyracuz
 
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Reply Thu 8 Dec, 2011 07:19 pm
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If a man claims to be Jesus today, how can you tell if it is true or false?


If he claims to be the Jesus of the gospels, he's obviously a fraud and should be laughed at. In fact, I am pretty sure that this happens rather regularly, and that there are many people around the world sitting in mental institutions and the like preaching their divine identity.
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Thu 8 Dec, 2011 07:26 pm
@Cyracuz,
Would or should people be laughed at if it was Lao-Tzu with which they say they can feel or communicate with???
Cyracuz
 
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Reply Thu 8 Dec, 2011 08:42 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
Anyone claiming to be someone who died thousands of years ago should not be taken seriously.

Think about it; even if Jesus were to suddenly appear, for real, and if he really was this amazing person the bible makes him out to be, do you think the first thing he would do was insult our intelligence by saying "I am Jesus, the son of God"?

From what little I know of the bible, Jesus was never concerned about fame or acknowledgment. He cared about his message and about his people.

For the record, I think that the tale about Jesus is an inspiring story, but I very much doubt that much of it is true, at least not in any version it is being told today, so I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for Jesus to come back...
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2011 02:15 am
@Cyracuz,
Cyracuz wrote:

If he claims to be the Jesus of the gospels, he's obviously a fraud and should be laughed at. In fact, I am pretty sure that this happens rather regularly, and that there are many people around the world sitting in mental institutions and the like preaching their divine identity.


They're not all in mental institutions.
http://able2know.org/topic/180143-1
Cyracuz
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2011 08:43 am
@izzythepush,
Oh... I see... Very Happy

Looks like a2k isn't far from a mental institution these days.
Fido
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2011 09:52 am
@Cyracuz,
Cyracuz wrote:

Oh... I see... Very Happy

Looks like a2k isn't far from a mental institution these days.
In this land they do not lock up the insane; they elect them... It seems like the path to power but it is the path to wealth for the unscrupulous, and frustration for the idealists... It is hard to govern when to govern must often mean, to demand change, and the greatest impediment to change is the government...
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XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2011 12:37 pm
@Cyracuz,
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Anyone claiming to be someone who died thousands of years ago should not be taken seriously.

That is of coarse, If you view is correct, about his story and life, and He for SURE WILL NEVER COME BACK...

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Think about it; even if Jesus were to suddenly appear, for real, and if he really was this amazing person the bible makes him out to be, do you think the first thing he would do was insult our intelligence by saying "I am Jesus, the son of God"?

No, I do not think the first thing he would do would be to proclaim he is the Son of God....If he truly was God in the flesh, people would know FOR SURE, it was Jesus Christ who was with them...

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From what little I know of the bible, Jesus was never concerned about fame or acknowledgment. He cared about his message and about his people.

I absolutely agree 100%

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For the record, I think that the tale about Jesus is an inspiring story, but I very much doubt that much of it is true, at least not in any version it is being told today, so I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for Jesus to come back...

I value you view it as Inspirational...But I don't think the version Christians have about him is completely false also, even if 100% is not exact, doesn't mean the MOST important things he said, were false...SO I am not holding my breath, but do believe he will in fact return one day...

Also, you DID NOT answer my question I proposed above, so I will restate it...

Your a Taoist right?? Would or Should you think that people should laugh at others if it was Lao-Tzu with which they could feel and communicate with??

cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2011 12:48 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
Would he perform miracles too? How about turning a human into a pile of salt?
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2011 01:40 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Who said anything about miracles??

Cyr said, Anyone who claims to be Christ should be laughed at...

SO I said, You Taoist right? If Taoists followers said that they could feel and communicate with Lao-Tzu, should they be laughed at like Cyr said people should do in regards to Christ??

(hint: it was intended for Cyr, and it is either a simple yes or no....)
Fido
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2011 01:41 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Would he perform miracles too? How about turning a human into a pile of salt?
Considering all the republicans who have turned themselves into piles of ****, I think a more worthy trick for God to perform would be to turn one pile of **** into a human being...I have tried often and given up many times... No idiot is more loyal and defensive of their mistakes than a republican, and there is no fool more certain that wrong ideas are perfect only because people are not perfect.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2011 02:00 pm
If he looks and talks like this it's a safe bet he's a full of **** imposter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PAJNntoRgA&feature=player_embedded
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2011 02:31 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
Of coarse he will not be performing any miracles; that's for the bible and their followers to believe. Why make miracles so obvious when it takes only b.s. to make people believe in fictional characters not supported by any other recorded history. One would think feeding thousands with a few loaves of bread and fishes would have been written up by many of his followers, but such records don't exist.
 

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