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Any benefits of old age?

 
 
ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2011 03:27 pm
@cicerone imposter,
very difficult, CI..
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Eva
 
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2011 04:25 pm
@mags314772,
mags314772 wrote:

Well,I'm 69 years old today, and I'm not dead yet, soI guess that's a benefit.


HAPPY BIRTHDAY, MAGS!
mags314772
 
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2011 04:37 pm
@Eva,
Thank you Eva....had a nice day..lunch out with husband, a nice nap with my favite cat, and birthday calls from siblings. Not everyone makes it to 69, and I am thankful.
Tai Chi
 
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2011 06:02 pm
@mags314772,
Happy Birthday, mags!
http://blog.se-nse.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/cat_birthday_cake.jpg
mags314772
 
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2011 06:11 pm
@Tai Chi,
thanks tai! Love the kitty
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2011 06:28 pm
@Tai Chi,
He found my cake!
(hilarious photo, Tai)
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Rachel Muse
 
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Reply Fri 22 Apr, 2011 01:06 am
@BumbleBeeBoogie,
There is a saying, "The older,the wiser."
roger
 
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Reply Fri 22 Apr, 2011 01:12 am
@Rachel Muse,
I heard that. Do you ever wonder if those 'wise old men' are always paying attention to what they are saying?
Rachel Muse
 
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Reply Fri 22 Apr, 2011 01:25 am
@roger,
I think, the reason to be called as "wise old men" is that old men have more life experience and better to educate people the behavior . They basically know what is right and good for people.
There is another saying in China, “Listen to your elders”. In Chinese, “不听老人言,吃亏在眼前。”
roger
 
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Reply Fri 22 Apr, 2011 01:27 am
@Rachel Muse,
Speaking as a wise old man, that's darn good advice.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 22 Apr, 2011 09:43 am
@Rachel Muse,
There are some elders you don't want to listen to; al Assad, Castro, Gaddafi, Mugabi, Mubarak, and the list goes on...
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Fri 22 Apr, 2011 10:38 am
We old broads can flirt with the young guys all we want, and not have to worry that we will be obliged to come across.

Love having doors opened for me, and being called, ma'am, (just like Queen Liz).
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Fri 22 Apr, 2011 10:51 am
Working clubs as I do I run into a lot of hard body girls with big boobs and their ass cheeks hanging out. I can now ogle them directly with no fear of consequence because I've become old enough to be invisible to theses girls.
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RonPrice
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2011 11:38 pm
@BumbleBeeBoogie,
SINGALONGS AND MY TWO-2 RING BINDERS: 1948 TO 2008

This 2000 word essay explores the story of the gradual evolution of the singalong booklets in my life: 1948 to 2008, from my childhood to old age. Music is still an advanage in old age. This story may be a little long for some readers who prefer the internet site convention of short posts. If that is the case just stop reading when you find yourself uninterested. This is some of my story.-Ron in Tasmania
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The first booklets of music in my life, at least those I remember, go back to 1948 when I was four years old. The first booklet of music, though, that I put together myself in order to run singalongs was in the late 1960s, in 1968 when I was twenty-four. From about 1948 to about 1968, then, I ran along on the singalong booklets of others: my parents’, my friends’ and, of course by the decade 1958 to 1968, TV’s many-idiomed and formatted aural-texts. During a period of some 60 years, then, from 1948 to 2008 I have been involved in singalongs in one form or another.

In the last ten years though, 1998 to 2008, singalongs using booklets of songs I created took place for the most part at an aged care facility, an Australian government-funded aged care home, called the Ainslie House. This collection of buildings is located beside the Tamar River, an estuary, that runs beside George Town and Low Head in Tasmania. The residents of this home in this the oldest town in Australia, live in a modern and attractive facility about one kilometre from the Bass Strait, an extension of the Great Southern Ocean at the other end of the world from were I was born and grew to maturity in Canada.

I have been in at least two dozen aged care buildings in my life. These places where home means living with many new people under one roof, getting used to other people doing some of the everyday things a person might have previously done for themselves and by themselves as well as working out new balances between one’s need for privacy and the inevitable community nature of such a life--these places are now an increasingly burgeoning presence across our civilization as war-babies like myself and baby-boomers all come into their late adolescence(60 to 80) incrementally year after year. Any child born in the first year of WW2 in 1939 will be seventy in 2009.

As a lecturer in aged care studies, programs in which I finished my teaching career in an Australian technical and further education college dealing with students studying aged care and other specialist training programs in various human services certificate and diploma courses, I became as I had so often before become “an instant expert.” I am now an expert in more and more subjects and know less and less, or so it seems, as the years go on.

A range of different levels of care as well as specialist services are available here in these buildings by the sea under one management and organizational structure: high and low level care, short and long term care, independent units and shared accommodation, transition as well as particular and multi-service care are all available under one roof. Care and services such as: respite care, care for particular cultural needs and health conditions, care for end-of-life clients, for war veterans, for the socially and financially disadvantaged, for the mentally ill and for people living in rural or remote areas. The flotsam and jetsam of society are all here on their last legs in they had the money to get in--that is.

To a lesser extent I also led singalongs in the decade 1998 to 2008 in the Baha’i community, a group I had, by then, been associated with for six decades. My final singalongs in classrooms took place as my teaching in FT, PT and volunteer roles wound down in that same decade. These singalongs became rare events in my last years in Perth Western Australia in large Baha’i communities and the smaller ones in northern Tasmania where I lived after 1999 and in the several classrooms where I taught. In the decade that I lived in Tasmania, 1999 to 2009, guitar-playing and singalongs slipped to the periphery of my life with one exception of one main bastion of activity—with the old and dieing.

In some ways it was fitting that the last few years of the singalongs in my life, 2002-2008, involved mostly senior citizens, the aged, old people, those in the last decade of late adulthood(70 to 80) and old age(80++)--here in George Town. I used large-print songbooks published in the UK with a small singing group, choir was not quite the right word, until 2005. I say “fitting” because the content of these booklets was mainly for the two generations born before WW2--in the first four decades of the twentieth century—the earliest years in Canada and Australia of the activity of the Baha’i community, the religious community I have been associated with since the 1950s.

In 2008, though, the material in my two volumes, my two 2-ring binders, that I used for singalongs was for all age groups. In must be said though that there are very few songs that originated in the period, the two generations that were born in the years from 1970 to 2010, circa. The group born in the years after about 1970 will find few songs that were popular from their years of listening experience in these two binders. I did not listen to the music of those two generations. For the music of some two generations(1970 to 1990 and 1990 to 2010), of a great mass of popular music; for example, the songs of groups like Abba, among a host of others, I never bought the sheet music nor did I learn how to play the songs in some personally inventive way by figuring out the chords. So it was that by 2008 I did not know the songs of those under forty well enough to sing them in groups informally in the Baha’i community or in any other communities of which I was a part as a teacher in primary, secondary and tertiary educational institutions, as an adult educator, as a quasi-entertainer or one of a number of other roles I have had during those years.

These resources here in these booklets, these files, this collection, are here for singalongs in the groups I am involved with as I head into the last six months of the early years(60 to 65) of late adulthood(60 to 80) the middle years(65 to 75) of late adulthood and the last years of that stage(75 to 80) and finally, old age(80++), if I last that long. I have multiple copies of what I have come to call the music of other interest groups--for those not familiar with the Baha’i musical experience, booklets of songs I put together for students in classrooms where I used to teach as well as other groups. I have many editions of song books in multiple copy form that I made for Baha’i groups, as I say, as far back as the late 1980s. Songbooks from the previous two decades, the years 1968 to 1988, and the two decades before that, 1948 to 1968, have all been lost, thrown away or disappeared into the sands of time, the time that has been my life, as it has slipped irretrievably from my grasp.

These musical experiences called singalongs have returned to my life now here in George Town in the last six months. In July 2008 I put together a package/booklet of 75 songs as requested by the local aged care centre. Who knows when and who knows where and how these singalongs will develop in these years of late adulthood. My wife and son became a little tired of hearing the same old stuff back in the 1980s and 1990s for I am not a particularly talented guitarist and it is understandable that they have got tired of hearing all these old songs, this repertoire of mine. Singing in groups seemed to become passe, perhaps even to become seen as declasse or lower in social status/standing in the wider society or at least many sectors of the wider society that I came to live and have my being in by the 1990s and 2000s.

This form of self-entertainment and group entertainment that does not rely on the electronic media, though, is far from dead, though, and I feel it will be part of my life in these years before my demise, my passing from this mortal coil. In some ways it has been fitting that most of the singalongs I have been part of in the last ten years, 1998 to 2008, have involved residents of a home for those in aged care, for people on their last legs. I often thought that American writer William Faulkner's spirit may have been present in those sing alongs. I often thought, too, as I led these old folks in song that the spirit Faulkner had when he wrote his now famous book "As I Lay Dieing" may just be at the back of the leisure-social-room where we had our singalongs; perhaps this great writer, this winner of a Nobel prize in literature, hangs around the ceiling or occupied another place in these rooms and outside which the poet-historian Arnold Toynbee says peopled our lives, these unseen, unknown, unobserved souls, millions upon billions of souls at just one remove, one step, beyond our senses in a land of lights never to return to this earth, its beauties and its uglinesses, its bitter-sweetnesses and its joys.

These people who now singalong once each month all lay, sat up or palely loitered about, dieing slowly. Each month that I went back to this old folks home during these latter years of these singalongs someone else had died, sometimes two or three had died or had moved to the very edge of their final hour. Some sat in some state of increased decrepitude to that state I had observed in my previous visit and some looked brighter and more alert. Sometimes I was brighter and more alert. The term ‘old folks home’ was what we used to call these places for the old and dieing when I was a kid. And of course it was just that, a home, their last. It was their home, their last home on this earthly plane.

Slowly I got to know many of the names of these souls, got to know their life stories, their particular ailments in great detail—as old people are want to tell you to the nth degree of finitude. I also got to know a little of their philosophies and their religious proclivities.

The resources in my personally prepared, tenderly fostered, oft-used-and-repeated booklets of singing material that are here in my files, my collections are getting a new lease on life. They had often been kept, in this last decade, tightly sealed with a big rubber-band around them, in keeping for a future time when singalongs would once again return to my life and to the groups I was involved with in these years of my late adulthood and what would become, finally, old age. Now the rubber bands are off the its action-stations for singalongs once again.

Old age begins, say some human development psychologists, at the age of 80. I've come to like that model since the 1990s when I was a teacher of a course on human development. This model gives me now as it has given me in the last decade many more years before the onset of old age. As things stand now in 2008, I have another 16 years before I'm actually, officially, or shall I say psychologically, in theory at least, de facto, old. And I have plenty of years left for singalongs. Perhaps they may still be in my life in the 2040s, the decade when I become a centenarian. We shall see what those mysterious dispensations of a Watchful Providence provide in this the evening of my life as nightfall gradually approaches and “I go into a hole for those who speak no more,” as the Báb once wrote it graphically and literally in His voluminous writings back in the 1840s.

Ron Price
16 December 2008
2000 Words
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RonPrice
 
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Reply Sun 5 Feb, 2012 06:21 am
Apologies for my post of 3 months ago. It was a little too long for the conventions of this site. "Such is life," as the Australian outlaw Ned Kelly is reported to have said on his way to the gallows in NSW in 1880.-Ron
blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Sun 5 Feb, 2012 04:11 pm
You have gained the wisdom of age so you can manipulate a young hottie into your bed and even with the knowledge that once she sobers up and gets a good look at you she's gone, you have the wisdom to understand that's for the best AND the wisdom that there is NEVER a shortage of young hotties to manipulate into your bed. Laughing
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 5 Feb, 2012 04:17 pm
@RonPrice,
I visited the gaol where Ned was housed and executed in Melbourne last year. Even in Alice Springs, at the Bojango bar-cafe, they have some memorabilia of Ned on display.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 5 Feb, 2012 04:51 pm
@edgarblythe,
I think of that as an arithmetic growth curve..
kidding.

I think a benefit is overview.
I think a negative can be overview.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 5 Feb, 2012 05:00 pm
@kuvasz,
God, I loved him.
I met him once, in a clinical situation back when I was a lab tech. No big deal, the situation, or our talking. I'da rather met him otherwise.
Thanks for the video link, good to see you again.
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RonPrice
 
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Reply Sat 7 Apr, 2012 11:10 pm
@BumbleBeeBoogie,
The final category of Notebooks now in my possession are what I would term personal and/or those concerned with aspects 0f the Baha'i Faith, the relation I have been assoicated with now for nearly 60 years. These Notebooks were created not for use in a place of employment, not as a teacher or in a school system. They were created for my own use in my work as a Baha’i or in my personal use as a writer and poet, editor and publisher in these years of my retirement from FT, PT and casual-work.

I have been gathering resources now for more than 50 years, 1961-2012, but only seriously for the last twenty-five, 1987-2012. I have been fine-tuning this 25 year collection of Notebooks in the last dozen years, 1999-2012. I now have some 300 Notebooks covering millions of words and many subjects and topics. These Notebooks now serve and will serve as an important part of the base for my many writing projects in these years of my late adulthood(60-80) and old age(80++) should I be granted a long life.
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THE DAY OF YOUR/MY/THEIR LIFE

If one defines the late evening of one’s life as old age and equates this old age with the years eighty and over; if one equates the early evening as one’s years from 60 to 80, the period that the human development theorists call the years of late adulthood, then I have been in the period of early evening for nearly 8 years. Using this analogy of the days of one’s life to the hours of a day, then the morning becomes one’s childhood and adolescence, say, up to 19.

The time of my life is now somewhere from 6 p.m. to 7 p.m.; when I am 70 the time will be 7 to 9 p.m. and at 80 it will be about 9 p.m., 90 about 10 p.m. and 100, 11 p.m. The years 90 to 100 are very late in the evening; one could even consider them nighttime. Of course, these time frames are all somewhat guesstimations.-Ron Price, Pioneering Over Four Epochs, June 15th, 2004 to April 23rd 2006.

If you could take your father’s creativity
and your mother’s patience and kindness
into the late morning of your life;
your mother’s and father’s talents;
your grandfather’s and grandmother’s
persistence; your uncle’s various
abilities and, thus, in the long run,
enriching everyone’s life in ways
you can scarcely be aware of while
you are so young and ticking;
and then there is your aunt’s
creativity and capacity--and
there is so much more.

Perhaps in the process you will
give rebirth to all these people,
increase your feeling for the real,
exhibit what is sometimes called
an early flowering of youth--
and help people with their lives:
all in the context of a life
of regulated solitude, treasuring
time when you are mostly alone.

1 While writing this I was also thinking of my own uncle, my mother’s brother, who became a millionaire in the years of his retirement, like your mother’s mother’s brother who looks like he will be a millionaire. My mother’s borther gave all the money to his family when he passed away. Sadly, I was not in my uncle’s immediate family; rather, I was part of what sociologists call the extended family. The family is an interesting collection of folk who will hang around you in different ways all your life.

-Ron Price
June 15th 2004 to April 23rd 2006.




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