Yet another good reason to turn the screws on the Gypsys

If what Hawkeye means by 'turn the screws' is to insist that travellers follow the law of the land in which they live and to which all other citizens are answerable, I don't really see any problem with his thought beyond his unfortunate choice of terminology.

Will the Roma ever assimilate into the cultures of the countries where they settle?
People like to talk about the clash of civilizations. I have never accepted the inevitability of that dire concept. But here, I confess, is one, for real. This is a true clash of lifestyles, a clash between a nomadic people who since they left India some time in the 11th century have heroically and against all odds maintained their lifestyle, even as the world became more and more settled and developed before their eyes. So you have a group of nomads, bringing their habits from the 11th century into the heart of Paris in the 21st century. The contrast could hardly be any bigger.

In what areas is the clash most pronounced?
The Roma are defending their values, their ancient and proud traditions, and their approach to human existence, which is utterly disconnected from the reality of the modern world. Of course, the host countries say, we are not against your culture, we might even enjoy and admire it, our skepticism has got nothing to do with your otherness or the color of your skin. This involves basic principles that everybody has to uphold. For instance, you have to send your children to school and you have to have your children inoculated before they can be admitted, and you should learn the language of the host country, and you should work for a living, and you should buy medical insurance, and save up for your retirement. If you wish to live on the road, fine, but you will need passports and money, and there are hygienic requirements you must fulfill. You cannot use Hyde Park as your bathroom

Educational researcher Jane Schuch from the Humboldt-University in Berlin evaluated the interviews, and was struck by the number of Sinti and Roma who never went to school: thirteen percent of those surveyed. The number drops by generation - 9.4 percent of the current generation has never attended school - but of those who do go, 44 percent don't graduate.

Only 15 percent received some kind of vocational training, and "we didn't even talk about university graduation," Schuch said.

Classroom cruelty

The numbers - and the nearly complete lack of university graduates - are in stark contrast to the majority of German society. Members of the Association of German Sinti and Roma and researchers agree that the poor educational representation is a result of the persecution of Sinti and Roma in Nazi Germany and the ensuing ostracism from German society after World War II. Parents today don't have a good feeling about sending their kids to school, says Schuch. They know what kind of reception they're likely to get.

"It ranges from open hostility - 'gypsies stink, gypsies steal,' the whole row of stereotypes that these kids are confronted with at school - to teachers who go so far as to say things like 'actually, Hitler had the right idea with you guys.' That's happened twice in two different places," Schuch said.

Schuch believes the education system lacks structures that would make integrating Sinti and Roma in schools easier and help stop discrimination.

Just curious... Is there anyone you don't hate?

Sure, now that's what the world needs, more hatred based on fiction. Greaaaat!

Any hate that the Gypsies churn up is well earned.

Famous Gypsies: Elvis Presley, Charlie Chaplin, Michael Caine, Hoskins, Rita Hayworth, Yul Brynner, etc.

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Any hate that the Gypsies churn up is well earned.

Including genocide?