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Are you against Christian Sharia Law?

 
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2011 12:40 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

Are "right wing" views allowed on this forum?


I'm not a native English speaker.

Could you please explain, how your response answers my question?
Thank you in advance.
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2011 12:42 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Come back when you can speak English.
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2011 12:59 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

Was Albert Einstein a "right wing" guy?


Certainly not. Quite the opposite: he was a liberal, had avoided conscription, didn't believe in a God, praised Socialism (see his essay "Why Socialism", espcially in his first [German] edition, 1933) was a Pacifist, preached social justice .... and couldn't imagine that God was playing dice or used telepathy, if there was a God. (See his letter to Cornelius Lanczos [March 21, 1942] and Max Born [Decemebr 12, 1929]
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2011 01:00 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

Come back when you can speak English.


I beg your pardon: do you own this site now? Do you have any function to give me orders here?

Besides that: I do know that I have an accent. When did you listen to it? Where did I meet you?
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2011 01:06 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
so let me tell you how this **** go's im sittin down here in what i call my padded cell thinkin its hell might as well people always doubtin me shoutin at me is it me or is it reality?it cant be but it must be cuz every day im layin in my bed with a gun to my hed cuz im fed up with this life i led up you need to get off my case before i blast a hole in your face or end up with another suicide case let me catch another case hold on i open my brief case and see your face now look at my face and tell me how am i what if i were to die would you cry i dont know if i should do it **** it screw it you know it would happen when i started takeing all these drugs i went from pills ta weed ta crack and now im right back were i started with a pen in my head were am i at **** damn you just dont understand im just in way to much pain but im goin to eat this **** just like i eat a bitch so what is there to throw away obviously not **** cuz everybodys always dissin mywhy dont you listen to me and take note of what i got to say but you probably wont cuz ur to busy dissin me just no im goin to be me and thats all i can be my life is fucked up but how can i make it better in this cold ass weather im thinkin i should die but before i go i got to get high for this ride so i start walkin down the dark street ill i no and see is this bitch ass mother ****** lookin back at me you dont no me or even want to get to test my family that i have on these streets you dont no whats under my hoodie ill leave you dead in a ditch an have your bitch ridin my dick cuz im sick reppin that east side wicked **** ill **** any bitch with a disease you can call me sick you can say i aint right in the head but just no ill leave you dead in your bed with a gun to ur girls head as shes givin me head bitch i dont give a **** cuz im bout to hit another line and spit another live cuz whats jumpin on my is way to fucked up ....ok...they say money is the motive i say grab a gun reload it put it to your head and unload it now thats what i call blowin ya mind right so here i come aiming straight at ur girl ya body i will kill yeah mother ****** that real how about i stab you in the spleen then you might no what i mean if i ever heard of ya i might murder ya cuz with the **** i spit cuz its like acid i blasted a hole right through you now do you want to step to the best an take a shot at my chest when i spit my flows there sick an wicked i picked it straight out of ya brain im fuckin insane when ur crew steps to mine your goin to get put to shame cuz ill eat you like a cannibal cuz im an animal im sick as **** and i dont care what you got ta say but you better say what you want ta say before i start to spray **** whats you got ta say??
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2011 01:57 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Einstein believed in "Intelligent design". He said he didn't believe in the God of the bible. He never said he didn't believe in God.
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2011 02:00 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Then don't give me orders to accomodate you.
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2011 02:01 pm
@soulless ,
Medic........Hey medic........we have another man down over here.........
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2011 02:24 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:
He never said he didn't believe in God.


That might be. But he wrote it, in German, the language, all of his early essays and letters are written in.

But even later, living in the USA, he did write and say so:
Quote:
Das Wort Gott ist für mich nichts als Ausdruck und Produkt menschlicher Schwächen, die Bibel eine Sammlung ehrwürdiger, aber doch reichlich primitiver Legenden.

Letter to Erich Gutkind (as of January 3, 1954)

Quote:
Ich glaube nicht an einen persönlichen Gott und ich habe dies niemals geleugnet, sondern habe es deutlich ausgesprochen.

This letter (March 24, 1954) is published in "Human Side"

I admit: he believed in a God, namely in "Spinoza's God". [That's the one, Engells quoted as having said: "Ignorantia non est argumentum."]


And than, there's a favourite quote:
Quote:
I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils [of Capitalism], namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.
Source: Monthly Review No. 1, 1949
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2011 03:12 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

Whatever.

I believe in intelligent design and Albert Einstein agrees with me. Was Albert Einstein a "right wing" guy?

I don't think it is wise to speak on behalf of Professor Eistein. The concept of ID is rather new in terms of conservative rhetoric and PR branding. I don't think you will be able to (1) support your claim, and (2) even if you did, you only have established that someone else believes it, not that you have a reason to. (3) You would also be in a tough spot because all sorts of data is available now that was unavailable to Einstein. You would have to account for what his conclusion would be given the new data. You simply cannot do this, so as I said before, you should not be speaking on his behalf. It doesn't support your beliefs anyways.

If Einstein has a paper in which he defends a creationist account, please do us a favor and post it here so we can evaluate his reasoning. Both of us know, such an essay does not exist.


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Reply Sun 1 May, 2011 03:17 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

Einstein believed in "Intelligent design". He said he didn't believe in the God of the bible. He never said he didn't believe in God.

He doesnt need to explicitly state he doesn't believe in god any more than he needs to state that unicorns are not real. Do you believe in unicorns?

Wow. You put "intelligent design" in quote ls and just attributed it to Einstein. Please provide a citation. I think you are projecting.

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Reply Sun 1 May, 2011 03:20 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

Then don't give me orders to accomodate you.

He asked you to explain something you posted. Since what you posted was non sequitur to his question, it's a reasonable question no matter what your or his mother tongue is.

Can people who speak English as a second language not post here? What about freedom of speech? Aren't you acting a little un-American?

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Reply Sun 1 May, 2011 04:09 pm
@failures art,
You can believe whatever you want. I said I agree with Einstein on ID. You're supposed to be so much more intelligent than me. Why don't you show the entire world that I'm wrong about Einstein.
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2011 04:11 pm
@failures art,
I don't make special accomodations for people who can't speak English. Americans need to cease giving in to multiculturalism. You explain it to him.
failures art
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2011 04:15 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

You can believe whatever you want. I said I agree with Einstein on ID.

You have failed to establish Einstein believed this, so what does it matter if you claim to agree with a position you haven't cited Einstein even had?

Einstein would not have spoken on ID either. The political term is not old enough.

Do you simply expect me to take your word for it? I apologize, I do not. I'm from Missouri, so "show me."

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Reply Sun 1 May, 2011 04:21 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

I don't make special accomodations for people who can't speak English. Americans need to cease giving in to multiculturalism. You explain it to him.

1) it's not a special accommodation. Your reply did not make sense given his question. It's not an accommodation at all that you should communicate more clearly. Criticizing others language skills, does not give you special privilege to use poor language skills.

2) This is not an American site. It is international an the members are from all corners of the world. For instance, many are from England, and by your logic, they would be making special accomodation to your and my English colloquialisms if you wish to play games. The host server for the site is not in the US nor does the primary programmer/owner operate this site in the US. You shouldn't assume you have the home ground to dictate rules a d standards for interaction here.

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Reply Sun 1 May, 2011 04:54 pm
@failures art,
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You still promote politically motivated conclusions over scientific ones.


Tell us fa what your scientific conclusions are. Your use of the expression does not validate any scientific credentials. Nor does it tell us whether scientific conclusions have priority over political ones.

We do have some idea what politically motivated conclusions look like from election results. What do scientifically motivated conclusions look like. Is it a scientific oligarchy with the NCSE telling us all how to behave from inside their fortress office?

Why would flat out eugenics not be on the end of that? The demise of "Some Enchanted Evening" I suppose. Or "you can do anything you want but don't you step on my blue suede shoes".

Eff off.
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2011 04:55 pm
@failures art,
If you disagree with me then you establish that I'm wrong. I could care less what you want established. I don't take orders from you.
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2011 04:56 pm
@failures art,
Oh, cut the crap. Go pester someone else.
failures art
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2011 05:03 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

If you disagree with me then you establish that I'm wrong. I could care less what you want established. I don't take orders from you.

So you want me to your homework for you? No thank you, and that's bot how debate works either. You make a claim, so you back it up. You made a direct claim about Einstein, and I've asked you for a citation.

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