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Are you against Christian Sharia Law?

 
 
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Thu 7 Apr, 2011 08:27 am
@djjd62,
You seem to care about me a lot. Do you have a crush on me?
parados
 
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Reply Thu 7 Apr, 2011 08:27 am
@parados,
If you were talking about a fact in the conversation with failures art then I would point to the fact that the CIA helped to put the Shah in power in Iran which lead to the current muslim state.
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Thu 7 Apr, 2011 08:28 am
@parados,
That's what I thought. Words, just words.
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Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Thu 7 Apr, 2011 08:28 am
@parados,
The thread is about Sharia Law. Who instilled Sharia Law in Iran?
parados
 
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Reply Thu 7 Apr, 2011 08:29 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
Are you saying Sharia law doesn't exist in Iran?
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Thu 7 Apr, 2011 08:32 am
@parados,
Nope. I said "who instilled Sharia Law in Iran?"
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failures art
 
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Reply Thu 7 Apr, 2011 11:01 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

I don't like that style because it doesn't lend itself to dialogue. It stops dialogue. You're done here. Liberals hate dialogue and you've proven that. You're done here. You're not the sharp. You have a few tricks, but nothing of substance. I don't have to provide you with any examples of anything you dream up. You have me confused with you feeble pals.

Your concession on these points are noted, and I accept them. Can't call cards if you don't ante up.

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Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Thu 7 Apr, 2011 02:12 pm
@failures art,
I hope that helps your self-esteem. You seem to be very needy. When you are man enough to discuss the topic please let me know. If you want to keep this personal, I'll be all too happy to oblige. Who instilled Sharia Law in Muslim nations?
failures art
 
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Reply Thu 7 Apr, 2011 02:23 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
I've addressed this question in regard to Iran multiple times. Meanwhile, I've ask you a question that you've not answered. I've answered your question the same number of times I've asked mine, and you've yet to comply. What are you so afraid of? Why should I continue to answer your questions when you won't participate with mine? More accurately, why should I continue to answer the same question over and over while you won't answer mine once?

You are getting boring. I'll play along for a little longer...

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djjd62
 
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Reply Thu 7 Apr, 2011 03:04 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
no i don't, sorry

i enjoy talking to lunatics, that's why i like the politics threads
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Fri 8 Apr, 2011 08:23 am
@failures art,
You're not as sharp as you think you are. That's usually the case when dealing with the left.

The objective of this thread is to equate Christianity with Islamic Sharia Law.

Lots of BS, but no substance.
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Fri 8 Apr, 2011 08:24 am
@djjd62,
If you're gonna talk to me you really should pull your pants up and be a big boy.
djjd62
 
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Reply Fri 8 Apr, 2011 08:35 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
why so

we're both just spoutin' off a bunch of ****, you just take yours seriously
failures art
 
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Reply Fri 8 Apr, 2011 09:06 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

The objective of this thread is to equate Christianity with Islamic Sharia Law.

I don't know about equate, but to compare them certainly. They overlap a great deal where civil rights are concerned. Christians want their religious beliefs made into state and federal law just like Muslims. Perhaps Christians are simply envious of Muslims that they have been successful at establishing religious states.

You've still not provided the difference between the prohibition of establishing a state religion, and the separation of church and state. How can you put a religious law into place without legally validating a specific church?

What's so difficult about answering this question?

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Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Fri 8 Apr, 2011 06:08 pm
@djjd62,
Speak for yourself. I agree with you that you're spouting ****. The title of this thread is nothing but spouting ****.
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Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Fri 8 Apr, 2011 06:11 pm
@failures art,
The difference is obvious. There is no such thing as separation of church and state in the US Constitution. The phrase does appear in the Communist Manifesto of the Soviet Union. Perhaps you're confused.

Do you really believe Christians are envious of muslims who have muslim states? Is that what you think of Christians? Sharia Law calls for the exectution of homosexuals. Show me the "Christian" law that is equal to that in the USA.
failures art
 
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Reply Fri 8 Apr, 2011 08:55 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

The difference is obvious. There is no such thing as separation of church and state in the US Constitution.

A few things.

1) This doesn't answer my question. I asked for examples of what a separation of church and state would be versus what it means to not be able to establish a state church. I'm glad you're warming up to answering the question.
2) You are correct that it is not in the constitution. Are we going to have a conversation on what words are not in the constitution? That's a very long conversation that in the end won't include words that include religion in the government. I'm more than willing and eager to have the conversation.
3) The separation of church and state has been defended numerous times. If you wish to deny the outcome of these battles, you're free to irrelevantly lie perpendicular to history. It makes no difference to me. The phrase comes from Thomas Jefferson's sentiments on the crafting of the bill of rights and was built on the founder of Rhode Island, Roger Williams's words in the face of being banished from Massachusetts colony by orthodox Christians. Williams, a devout Christian himself understood the danger of what orthodox Christians would do if allowed to institute religion into law.

Renaldo Dubois wrote:

The phrase does appear in the Communist Manifesto of the Soviet Union. Perhaps you're confused.

Although I'm not familiar with said document, I decided to check to see if you were correct or if you were just talking out of your ass. Turns out it was (no surprise) the later. The document refers to "religion [as] separating the ruling class from the working class." I guess that phrase uses the two operative terms, but it doesn't say what you said it does. Marx says to get rid of religion, but that too is far different than providing a separation of church and state as institutions. Forbidding religion is not in the constitution either, but nobody is saying it is.

Renaldo Dubois wrote:

Do you really believe Christians are envious of muslims who have muslim states? Is that what you think of Christians?

The battle with the Christians that did want a religious state was initially fought in the USA at our founding. Lesser so, we still see radical religious elements in the USA trying to institute religious morals into law here. That Muslims have states that they control with religious law probably is an issue of envy to those elements in our society who want the USA to be a Christian nation.

Renaldo Dubois wrote:

Sharia Law calls for the exectution of homosexuals. Show me the "Christian" law that is equal to that in the USA.

Fortunately we do not have laws that use captial punishment for homosexuality. We do however criminalize homosexuality. Ever heard of sodomy laws? We also deny homosexuals equal protection of the law due to religious tampering. I don't see your argument advancing the idea that Christians are so different than Muslims. If Christians could successfully establish a religious state here in the USA, we'd have all the same atrocities.

That's certainly been the tradition. Compare Christian religious states history to that of mullah rule. They aren't so different. In terms of sectarian violence, the Muslims have a lot of catching up to do in terms of numbers.

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Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Sat 9 Apr, 2011 08:19 am
@failures art,
Pitiful. You just can't help your little dishonest self.
failures art
 
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Reply Sat 9 Apr, 2011 11:26 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
Your participation in this conversation is getting less and less. I thought you were interested?

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Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Sat 9 Apr, 2011 03:12 pm
@failures art,
I'm interested in the topic. Christian Sharia Law. There is no such thing. Comparing Christianity to Islam in the world today is hilarious. How can I or anyone take this seriously? You still haven't convinced me that Christianity is as bad as Sharia Law or that Christianity in America opened the door for Sharia Law. It's just too funny to take this seriously, especially to anyone who has studied both religions. When you want to get into the topic, please let me know.
 

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