@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
Good teachers are not making so much more than lousy teachers that the average salary is driven up.
That's the problem.
Well, is this a fact? I mean, good teachers are more likely to stick with it longer than bad ones for a variety of reasons. Not only that, they are more likely to obtain additional education of their own than bad teachers are. This would lead me to believe that long-term teachers, who are paid more, are more likely to be 'good' teachers than lowly-paid ones.
That certainly was my experience. My honors and advanced classes throughout school were all taught by grizzled veterans who were very, very good at what they do.
Quote:If our personal experience was that there are more good teachers than bad, no party could play on our resentment and disgust.
As the quote I posted on the last page said, somewhere around half the country doesn't have the ability to properly judge whether or not a teacher was good or bad. So their opinion on the matter isn't really all that interesting.
Quote:No one in Wisconsin is messing with teacher salaries, and they are not even messing with their ability to collectively bargain for salaries.
Wrong and wrong again. I mean, you couldn't be more wrong.
In fact, the gov is asking them to immediately start paying 5.8% of their salary towards their pension - with no rise in the pension. Most currently pay nothing out of their salary directly to the pension. He's effectively asking them to take a 6% pay cut immediately.
Not only that, but Walker is
directly limiting their ability to negotiate on salary issues by putting an upper bound on how much they can even ask for - they won't be allowed to have salary increases which exceed increases in the CPI.
Did you read anything about the bill in question before posting this? At all? I did.
Quote:You're the Fact Man...I'm surprised you're so off the mark on this one.
This looks pretty funny now, doesn't it?
I'm going to recommend once again that you do EVEN THE SMALLEST BIT OF RESEARCH before posting, Finny.
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