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The worlds first riddle!

 
 
TTH
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2008 12:07 am
That is interesting mark, don't know exactly what it means but, it still is interesting.
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2008 08:40 am
TTH:

7,7,3,3=24

I get 3/7= .4286 + 3 = 3.4286 x 7 = 24.00 Cool Very Happy

Yup! 7(3/7 + 3) = 24


Mark:

5, 5, 5, 1

5 * (5 - 1/5) Cool

Looking good!


RESISTANCE
I'll take a shot at the simplest case. I get 1/2 for the tetrahedron. Cool Cool

RESISTANCE (2)
I did a little Googling and found this:

tet: 1/2
cube: 7/12
oct: 5/12
dod: 19/30
ico: 11/30

The tet is its own dual. The cube and oct are duals. The dod and ico are duals. Cool

Interestingly, if you add the resistances of duals, you get 1. Cool


You are right; at first glance the question seems near impossible. However, when taken a step at a timeĀ…not so difficult! Rolling Eyes

They can be derived as follows. For any graph the resistance between two points, S and T, can be computed as follows. Set the potential of S to 1, T to 0. Solve a set of linear equations to find the potential of the remaining vertices. Compute the current flow out of S (which will necessarily equal the current flow into T). Invert the current flow to determine the resistance.

For our case for each graph let n be the number of vertices and d be the degree of each vertex. Specify adjacent vertices S and T. Setting the potential of S to 1 and T to 0 will determine the potential values on the other vertices. Consider rotating the solid around S (so T coincides with each of the neighbors of S).

Average the rotated potential values at each vertex. The average at S is clearly 1 (since S remains fixed). The average potential value at each neighbor of S is clearly the same by symmetry. Let this value be x. We claim the average potential at every remaining vertex is also x. This follows because there is no current flow into or out of any of the remaining vertices in any of the rotated states.

So what is x? By symmetry the average potential over all the vertices is .5. So since the potential at S is 1 we have x=(n/2 - 1)/(n-1). So the average current out S (which will be the same for each rotation) is d*(1-x)=d*(n/2)/(n-1). So the total resistance between S and T is the inverse of this or (2*n-2)/(d*n) = (2/d)*(1-1/n). Using the values of n and d for each solid we find the answers above.

This method should work for any sufficiently symmetric graph.


TTH thought, "That is interesting".

It is not known what Miss mi thought! My own thought is centripetal.



In a certain sequence, the first term is 2 and each succeeding term is 1 less than the square of the previous term. What is the forth term in this sequence Question



1000=W that a P is W Question

1001 = A N Question
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Stormwatch
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2008 08:50 am
1000=W that a P is W = 1000 words that a picture is worth

1001 = A N = 1001 Arabian Nights
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TTH
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2008 01:29 pm
When using decimal notation is STEPHENS< STEVENS Question
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TTH
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2008 03:51 pm
Tryagain wrote:
In a certain sequence, the first term is 2 and each succeeding term is 1 less than the square of the previous term. What is the forth term in this sequence Question :
I don't even know if I understand the question Confused

If the first term is......
2 then the next is (2x2) - 1 = 4-1=3
3 then the next is (3x3) - 1 = 9-1=8
8 then the last is (8x8) - 1 = 64-1=63
63 is the fourth term?
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thoh13
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2008 04:15 pm
Tryagain wrote:

Your mission, should you choose to accept; is to obtain 24 using the four numbers 3, 3, 7, and 7. It is possible, using only *, +, -, and / to do this Question
Use each number exactly once.

If that seems impossible; try 5,5,5,1. With the same limitations Question


i was thinking
3+3+7+7=20 which in base 8 equals 24
5+5+5+1=16 which in base 6 equals 24
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2008 06:19 pm
Stormy:

1000=W that a P is W = 1000 words that a picture is worth Cool

1001 = A N = 1001 Arabian Nights Cool


TTH:

If the first term is......
2 then the next is (2x2) - 1 = 4-1=3
3 then the next is (3x3) - 1 = 9-1=8
8 then the last is (8x8) - 1 = 64-1=63
63 is the fourth term Cool

Confidence is all you need! Very Happy


Thoh:

I was thinking
3+3+7+7=20 which in base 8 equals 24 Cool
5+5+5+1=16 which in base 6 equals 24 Cool

That is good thinking. Why didn't I think of that?



Lost in the city, you finally happen upon a rickety old bridge that leads to a shortcut. You need to know if the bridge is safe. As luck would have it, you recognize that on the other side of the bridge is the A2K office.

Everyone who works there either ALWAYS tells the truth or ALWAYS lies. You see three men on the other side of the bridge; Mark Twisted Evil , Try Evil or Very Mad and Thoh Razz .


You shout out: "Are you truth tellers?"

Mark says something, but you can't hear what he said.
Try shouts, "He said he was a truth-teller."
Thoh shouts out, "No, he didn't. He said he was a liar."

Which man do you ask to find out whether or not the bridge is safe Question




Walk on the living, they don't even mumble
Walk on the dead they mutter and grumble

I am Question
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TehMeh
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2008 08:06 pm
Tryagain wrote:
Lost in the city, you finally happen upon a rickety old bridge that leads to a shortcut. You need to know if the bridge is safe. As luck would have it, you recognize that on the other side of the bridge is the A2K office.

Everyone who works there either ALWAYS tells the truth or ALWAYS lies. You see three men on the other side of the bridge; Mark Twisted Evil , Try Evil or Very Mad and Thoh Razz .


You shout out: "Are you truth tellers?"

Mark says something, but you can't hear what he said.
Try shouts, "He said he was a truth-teller."
Thoh shouts out, "No, he didn't. He said he was a liar."

Which man do you ask to find out whether or not the bridge is safe Question


I think that:

Thoh is a liar! This is because Mark would never call himself a liar!
Try is telling the truth if Thoh is lying!
Mark needs to speak up!

I would ask Try Wink

Tryagain wrote:


Walk on the living, they don't even mumble
Walk on the dead they mutter and grumble

I am Question


Leaves!

(Tolkein Very Happy)
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markr
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jan, 2008 12:13 am
OK - I'll speak up...

THOH: ARE YOU GOING TO LET TEHMEH CALL YOU A LIAR?

That was convenient of Try to make himself out to be the good guy...
And you're right; I would never call myself a liar.
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thoh13
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jan, 2008 03:44 am
markr wrote:

THOH: ARE YOU GOING TO LET TEHMEH CALL YOU A LIAR?


no i am not
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TTH
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jan, 2008 05:44 am
thoh13 wrote:
markr wrote:

THOH: ARE YOU GOING TO LET TEHMEH CALL YOU A LIAR?


no i am not
Well, that sure showed him Laughing Laughing
mark since you know computers and all, this one was for you:
TTH wrote:
When using decimal notation is STEPHENS< STEVENS Question
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jan, 2008 08:50 am
TehMeh:


Thoh is a liar! This is because Mark would never call himself a liar!
Try is telling the truth if Thoh is lying!
Mark needs to speak up!

I would ask Try Cool

You rock at teh Intarweb. Laughing


The first man would always say he is a truth-teller:
If he is a truth-teller, of course he would say so.
If he is a liar he would lie and still say he is a truth-teller.

This means that the second man told the truth.
(Of course, you could always ask Thoh; as long as you realize he is lying.)

Leaves! Cool

(Tolkein)

Omg u b0rk t3h intarw3b!!1!!11!shift+one !1!! Laughing


Mark:

That was convenient of Try to make himself out to be the good guy...
And you're right; I would never call myself a liar.

Which means that you too could be a truth teller. Very Happy




If 3x+4y=10 and 2x+7y=11, then x is Question




10001000 = O in a M = Question

31536000 = S in a Y = Question

8549176320 = D in AO = Question

9192631770 = OPS in a CA = Question
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TTH
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jan, 2008 09:39 am
No one is even going to try and attempt this one?

When using decimal notation is STEPHENS< STEVENS Question
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TTH
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jan, 2008 09:41 am
Tryagain wrote:
31536000 = S in a Y = Question
I didn't do the math so I will guess....seconds in a year?

Edit to add:
Tryagain wrote:
If 3x+4y=10 and 2x+7y=11, then x is Question
2?
Tryagain wrote:
10001000 = O in a M = Question
One in a million?
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thoh13
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jan, 2008 11:40 am
31536000 = S in a Y = seconds in a year
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TTH
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jan, 2008 01:18 pm
Tryagain wrote:
8549176320 = D in AO = Question
digits in alphabetical order?
Tryagain wrote:
9192631770 = OPS in a CA = Question
No idea, not even a guess Laughing
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TehMeh
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jan, 2008 02:07 pm
Tryagain wrote:
9192631770 = OPS in a CA = Question


Oscillations Per Second in a Cesium Atom Laughing

Atomic clock Smile
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mismi
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jan, 2008 02:29 pm
TTH wrote:
No one is even going to try and attempt this one?

When using decimal notation is STEPHENS< STEVENS Question



Razz I thought that was the answer to something....how embarrassing!

Even Stephens? - shot in the dark once again... :wink:
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TTH
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jan, 2008 02:33 pm
mismi40 wrote:
Razz I thought that was the answer to something....how embarrassing!
Even Stephens? - shot in the dark once again... :wink:
Sorry mismi40 Embarrassed
Good guess, but not what I was looking for.
I thought mark might get it. It has to do with computer programs.

TehMeh
I would never have gotten that answer.
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mismi
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jan, 2008 02:39 pm
Oh...no way would I get that - I only know how to turn my computer on and off! Just gave it a shot for you! Laughing
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