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The worlds first riddle!

 
 
butterfly
 
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Reply Thu 18 May, 2006 09:03 pm
Tryagain wrote:
Damn! I mean congratulations Li'l Owl, you are good. Razz
However, this one should slow you down a bit.

Question:

1/6 of a sheep =



Due to circumstances beyond my control Butterfly is excluded form giving an answer. (Again) Laughing


Bummer, and just when I knew the answer to this one! Laughing
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markr
 
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Reply Thu 18 May, 2006 10:03 pm
[size=8]SHEEP
1/6 of "a sheep" = "a"
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Fri 19 May, 2006 08:01 am
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markr
 
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Reply Fri 19 May, 2006 09:16 am
Could you show an invalid example? I'm not sure what you're asking for.

Also, I saw the sheep answer in another thread, but I'll remain silent. It would be helpful to know the context (where the puzzle came from) of the question.
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Fri 19 May, 2006 10:05 am
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markr
 
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Reply Sat 20 May, 2006 02:16 am
[size=8]Ah, so we're not substituting numbers for letters. We're just rearranging letters to make a new sum.

ONE + TWELVE = TWO + ELEVEN = 13

FIVE NUMBERS
I can get to 3.2, but I don't know that it is optimal.
1.2, 1.2, 1.2, 1.2, 3.2
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Sat 20 May, 2006 10:28 am
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markr
 
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Reply Sat 20 May, 2006 12:42 pm
[size=8]MAPS
The four color map theorem was proved in the late seventies or early eighties, so the answer is 4.

ALL DIGITS EQUAL 4
Do you want an expression using all digits that equals four?
10 + 2 + 3 - 4 - 5 + 6 - 7 + 8 - 9 = 4
or
(3 - 2 - 1) * (any combination of 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 0) + 4 = 4
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Sun 21 May, 2006 07:16 am
Mark:

MAPS
The four color map theorem was proved in the late seventies or early eighties, so the answer is 4.


ALL DIGITS EQUAL 4
Do you want an expression using all digits that equals four?
10 + 2 + 3 - 4 - 5 + 6 - 7 + 8 - 9 = 4 Cool
or
(3 - 2 - 1) * (any combination of 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 0) + 4 = 4 Cool Cool


(That is clever, I only had a simple: 15,768 / 03,942 = 4)



I will give you a big surprise if you can answer this, she whispered:

Using only ten 1's and (),+, -, /, x. Can you make an equation that = 5 Question
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markr
 
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Reply Sun 21 May, 2006 11:42 am
[size=8]TEN ONES
11+1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1=5
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Sun 21 May, 2006 05:08 pm
There I was sitting in the back yard sipping on a cold beer whilst reading the Sunday papers when Shari calls over:

Hey, if I subtract the sum of its digits, I get a perfect square.

And if I add the product of its digits, I get another perfect square, ain't that cute?

I was somewhat surprised she should get outta the pool to tell me that, but what the heck is that number Question
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markr
 
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Reply Sun 21 May, 2006 08:11 pm
[size=8]SQUARES
0, 2, and 8 work for single-digit numbers
13 and 91 work for two-digit numbers
337 and 456 work for three-digit numbers
I didn't find any four-digit solutions, and I didn't look beyond that.
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Mon 22 May, 2006 08:42 am
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Mon 22 May, 2006 03:01 pm
Mark decided to walk down the escalator of a tube station. He found that if he walks down 26 steps, he requires 30 seconds to reach the bottom. However, if he steps down 34 stairs he would only require 18 seconds to get to the bottom.

If the time is measured from the moment the top step begins to descend to the time he steps off the last step at the bottom, what is the height of the stair way in; number of steps Question
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markr
 
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Reply Mon 22 May, 2006 09:35 pm
[size=8]MAPS
Yes.
Simple constrained version: The orientation of the small map is the same as the large map.
Let (0,0) be the lower left corner of the large map.
Let S (0 < S < 1) be the scale factor of the smaller map.
Let (Tx,Ty) be the lower left corner of the small map.
Let (x,y) and (X,Y) be coordinates of the small and large maps repectively.
Then,
x = S*X + Tx
y = S*Y + Ty
We want x=X and y=Y, so we have
x = S*x + Tx
y = S*y + Ty
x = Tx / (1-S)
y = Ty / (1-S)

Note that S could be negative (flip the map upside down), and different scale factors could be used in the X and Y directions.

If the small map is rotated, then the equations must be modified to include rotation (trig functions), but there will still be two equations and two unknowns. It might get a bit messy making sure the small map is completely contained within the large map.

Also: The small map could be crumpled up and placed over the large map, and the situation would still apply.

Seems to me that this is a two-dimensional analog of the one-dimensional problem that asks:
If a person hikes up a mountain from 12:00 to 4:00, then hikes down the same path the next day from 12:00 to 4:00, prove that there must be a point on the trail that the person occupied at the same time each day.
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markr
 
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Reply Mon 22 May, 2006 09:47 pm
[size=8]STEPS
34 + 18e = s
26 + 30e = s
e = 2/3 steps per second (escalator speed)
s = 46 steps
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Tue 23 May, 2006 05:20 am
Mark:

MAPS
Yes. Cool

Simple constrained version: The orientation of the small map is the same as the large map.
Let (0,0) be the lower left corner of the large map.
Let S (0 < S < 1) be the scale factor of the smaller map.
Let (Tx,Ty) be the lower left corner of the small map.
Let (x,y) and (X,Y) be coordinates of the small and large maps repectively.
Then,
x = S*X + Tx
y = S*Y + Ty
We want x=X and y=Y, so we have
x = S*x + Tx
y = S*y + Ty
x = Tx / (1-S)
y = Ty / (1-S)

Note that S could be negative (flip the map upside down), and different scale factors could be used in the X and Y directions. Cool

If the small map is rotated, then the equations must be modified to include rotation (trig functions), but there will still be two equations and two unknowns. It might get a bit messy making sure the small map is completely contained within the large map. Cool

Also: The small map could be crumpled up and placed over the large map, and the situation would still apply. Cool Cool


That, if I may say; is a beautifully crafted answer. Razz


Seems to me that this is a two-dimensional analog of the one-dimensional problem that asks:
If a person hikes up a mountain from 12:00 to 4:00, then hikes down the same path the next day from 12:00 to 4:00, prove that there must be a point on the trail that the person occupied at the same time each day. Cool (True)


A slightly different take:
The point is obviously unique, because the two maps have different scales (but if P and Q where two fixed points the distance between them would be the same on both maps).

Let the small map square be A'B'C'D' and the large be ABCD, where X and X' are corresponding points. We deal first with the special case where A'B' is parallel to AB. In this case let AA' and BB' meet at O. Then triangles OAB and OA'B' are similar, so O must represent the same point. So assume A'B' is not parallel to AB.

Let the lines A'B' and AB meet at W, the lines B'C' and BC meet at X, the lines C'D' and CD meet at Y, and the lines D'A' and DA meet at Z. We claim that the segments WY and XZ meet at a point O inside the smaller square. W cannot lie between A' and B' (or one of the vertices A', B' of the smaller square would lie outside the larger square). If it lies on the opposite side of A' to B', then Y must lie on the opposite side of C' to D'. Thus the segment WY must cut the side A'D' at some point Z' and the side B'C' at some point X'. The same conclusion holds if W lies on the opposite side of B' to A', because then Y must lie on the opposite side of D' to C'. Similarly, the segment XZ must cut the side A'B' at some point W' and the side C'D' at some point Y'. But now the segments X'Z' and W'Y' join pairs of points on opposite sides of the small square and so they must meet at some point O inside the small square.

Now the triangles WOW' and YOY' are similar (WW' and YY' are parallel). Hence OW/OY = OW'/OY'. So if we set up coordinate systems with AB as the x-axis and AD as the y-axis (for the large square) and A'B' as the x'-axis and A'D' as the y'-axis (for the small square) so that corresponding points have the same coordinates, then the y coordinate of O equals the y' coordinate of O. Similarly, XOX' and ZOZ' are similar, so OX/OZ = OX'/OZ', so the x-coordinate of O equals its x'-coordinate. In other words, O represents the same point on both maps.


STEPS
34 + 18e = s
26 + 30e = s
e = 2/3 steps per second (escalator speed)
s = 46 steps Cool

Congratulations, that is the same number as Butterfly came up with, so it must be right. Laughing




It was getting near bedtime and I had just finished a glass of wine. Shari was reading the last sentence of War and Peace. I thought this was the perfect time to make my move. However, she pre-empted my suggestion with a; no we are not subscribing to the pay to view channels unless you can tell me:

What is the smallest number of integer-sided rectangles that tile a rectangle so that no two rectangles share a common length Question


Needless to say I didn't know what she was talking about. However, with the whole future of broadcasting hanging in the balance, can anyone assist?
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Tue 23 May, 2006 01:48 pm
The average age of 10 members of a committee is the same as it was 4 years ago, because an old member has been replaced by a young member.

How much younger is the new member Question
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markr
 
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Reply Tue 23 May, 2006 09:49 pm
[size=8]RECTANGLE TILING
five
This is not to scale, but the rectangles are arranged like this:
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Code:AAAABBBB
AAAACCDD
EEEEEEDD
EEEEEEDD


[size=8]COMMITTEE MEMBERS
40 years younger than the old member is now.
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Fruitbat
 
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Reply Wed 24 May, 2006 02:22 am
Quote:
[size=8]COMMITTEE MEMBERS
40 years younger than the old member is now.
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I think it's...
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36 years younger than the old member is now.
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