Who's evil: The gunman or politician?

My vote is for everyone being unconscious... If a person does what they do knowing what they do, and aware of the consequences of their actions, the pain they cause, and the good they choose not to do; then that person would be evil... Too many are simply careless and self centered... Very few are actually evil..

The worst of the bunch are the so called news people who spew the lies and prejudice that hurt so many; and deny the whole country true knowledge, truth, and invite the defeat and bondage of the whole country... They should be conscious, but are only money and power grubbing...

You should know that simplifying the whole situation to the point of stupidity does not help... If something does not happen, the burden of health care which is a legitimate public concern, and is one that is loaded on to those who are insdured, or onto the government debt is serving to break the government...People denied fair wages and civil rights will naturally think they can let health care slip, but if they slip into a hospital they find they cannot pay for their care, and that some one must anyway, and that is some one other than themselves...Those young people who feel forced to buy insurance when young will find that if they do not buy now, that the price will be forever beyond their reach... They will also find hospitals few and far between and the quality of medicine inevitably reduced... It would be easy to say: Serves them right for being stupid, but some one is helping them into that conditition... Some one, or more correctly, and entire class does not want to see the majority of people covered because that would require more of a fair wage... The mentally impared, such as the shooter in this instance, will recieve more appropriate treatment in prison than out because services essential to the health of the whole society are denied across the board... Public health is a public problem, but as long as it can be made a private problem for private profit, we will never have good public health care... With the democratic health care bill the good guys lost... The people lost in order to gather republican support which was scarce... It is meaningless... Like most solutions now adays it was all appearance and no solution... It is time for revolution...

You are incorrect. The politician did not force anything as the politician was elected. People voted for that politician. If the politician is "evil" then the politician can be voted out of office.

He should have shot himself

The politician forced her opinion and legislation on everyone. Supporters and non-supporters. She voted. That's individual responsibility. Don't forget in America we are individuals-regardless of post. A politician is an individual and is responsible for their own actions without regard to their supporters. The politician is elected, but you may have noticed they do alot of things without even informing the populus, or considering the rights of people who do not support them. They also make decisions before and after elections. That doesn't give their districts many options. Impeachment is too slow to stop a politician's actions.

Not if he believed in his actions.

Tell that to the 9 year old that he viciously murdered.

This is America. Your problems are not my problems. My problems are not your problems. No one should have the right to force public interest onto any individual. In America there are no public interests, or at least there aren't suppose to be. This is suppose to be Darwin's country( according to liberals). Every individual is responsible for themselves. Remember if you are obligated to people you have not chosen to be, YOU ARE NOT FREE. I am still probably considered "young", but I still know that socialism and insurance is the path to slavery. By the way, do some research into insurance, it is a form of socialism. Therfore it cannot( and will not) be the solution to capitialist healthcare.

My sympathies go to the family of the 9 year old girl. But she has nothing to do with his beliefs.

Again you are incorrect, my problem may very well be your problem, your problem may also very well be my problem. It is called a society. To each their own is a naive philosophy. It doesn't work.

Also, a politician does not "force" opinions and legislastion on everyone. They run on platforms and get elected. When the individual politician votes they are not voting as an individual, they are voting as a collective. It is not an individual act. If they fail to vote on behalf of their supporters they lessen the chance they will get re-elected. Those non-supporters may not like how the politician voted and they have a course of action, they can vote for an alternate politician or they can run for office.

A man of action... seriously? He was delusional. He shot a bunch of people who had NOTHING to do with politics.

She (the 9 year old) may not have factored into his beliefs, but he shot her anyway, IS THERE ANYTHING MORE EVIL THAN KILLING INNOCENT CHILDREN, I might anti government but I'm very much anti child abuse as well (that includes senseless murders)

Really? You consider voting for a law favored by approximately half the population to be a greater evil than shooting a group of total strangers? Actually, you sound as though you think it somekind of desireable, even noble act.

I'm open to hearing more on your value systems. I hope they are not as predictable as it sounds.

From my point of view that makes them murdering bastards and terrorists who deserved the noose. And considering how Bostonians supported and paid for the IRA terrorist campaign in Ireland more recently, they have not changed much.

So is evolution an error? How can I or anyone evolve if we are held back by others of our species. If your a god fan, how can man justify forcing the will of god (help your neighbor) on other people? The Judeo-Christian tradition makes it clear individuals have the right to disobey the will of god. I am not against helping people I know and chose to help. I oppose third parties forcing me to help people I don't know or who I have never even met. Whether or not we have have the same problem is irrelevent. In a free "society" you don't have the right to make me address your problem.

It's action. Bad action. But he acted. I agree he's delusional. By calling him a man of action I simply mean he did something about his complaints. The wrong thing, but he acted. I not trying to give him approval, but simply point that the main characters were both evil. One directly-one indirectly. I don't know why innocents were involved, and I am sorry for their loses.

I agree with you.(sort of) But yes there is something more evil: People forcing their beliefs, polices, or wills onto other people. (including future adults). Which would you consider to be worse: A dead child or a child who's life will dictated by the government.---no disrespect to any of the victims or victims of child abuse. Its a real question.

not at all. I am not praising the gunman in this situation. I abhor the fact that innocent people, including a child, were killed but I do consider voting for a law that will affect the entire population, by forcing them to buy something to be more evil. Here's why: The gunman affected at most 150 lives. Relatives, friends, witnesses and so forth. The politician affected the entire population. Heartless..maybe. But reality. I would rather be dead than at the mercy of my government. Do I support shooting politicans? Depends. Remember our country was founded by men who fired a shot heard round the world.

A dead child or a child who's life will dictated by the government. this was your last question--- I'd rather have the government TRY and dictate me, for one thing I don't have to listen to them they can't force me to listen and escape from their dictation comes to mind, and only weak minded people get dictated to, the rest of do our own thing, I got to ask has anyone forced their beliefs on you and you fell for it? people do it to me all the time, I still don't share their beliefs, like god people have tried to force that one on me for years, and I still think that god is nothing more than a fairy tail like Santa, and you do realize that we both at this time on this very page are guilty of trying to force their beliefs, polices, or wills onto other people, and each other.