NEW ART PROJECTS GOIN ON?

oh definately,but you know those works. I dont think that someone like Kinkade knows that he gets his little churches and cabins perspective incorrect. Hes just a sloppy artist.

Someone like Tom Benton would purposely screw with perspective and shape, he was trying to make a point with his foreshortening and oversized characters.
I think we know when someones messing with perspective and shape purposely.
You have to be a good draftsman first to know when to violate the rules and how. Our man 400 used to talk about how great a draftsman Picasso was, and this is true, thus his real gift was in abstract interpretation, not slavish rule following.

Hi Farmer....I saw a Kinkade teapot at an auction
I went to today......His net worth must be
astounding!!

aw, thats it, when they start putting artists transfers on teapots, thats the end.
tee shirts are actually a better surface.
His net worth is reportedly in the 10s of millions and I find that particularly disappointing , when the guy has no measurable talent or ability.

truth
...except in marketing.

every time we bring his name up , I start whining. I dont wish him ill. I wish him anonymity

Yep, maybe we could have a moratorium.

So, whadya think about Leroy Nieman. He was the one to scoff at years ago, but I think he may have come under reconsideration..

truth
Really? Who's next, Warhol?

Ah, art as process, the early stages...

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Or art as expressionles "factory" production.

hi all - I've made a small start on something that has been brewing for a while - a series of flower based paintings.

They are in the very early working-out stages at the moment. I've been working on the computer (images shown) and today in watercolour, sloshing about and thinking through the ideas. Eventually they will be large canvasses.

Any feedback? advice? helpful comments? they will hopefully arrive in the gallery tomorrow (upoloaded today) so will post them here then

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Have you seen anything of Fritz Scholder's new series of flower paintings? I've seen only a couple, very interesting, abstract, reminiscent of Braque's late bird in flight figures.

No JL - I'd never heard of him. I tried doing a search and came up with lots of paintings by him but no flowers.it is interesting to hear about American artists as we don't hear about many of them here, obviously we see more British/European work.



these are only preliminary ideas on the computer - the canvasses will evolve.

truth
Vivien, his flower series is just beginning, so it under exposed.
Your flowers are already lovely. Promising beginning.

thanks

I've posted another one to the gallery but it won't probably appear until tomorrow.

I've done a watercolour and a collage based on some of these and hope to find some corner of time to start working on some canvasses in various sizes, up to pretty big.

I try nowadays to limit 'big' to what will fit in the car! 5ft long and 3ft 6in wide will fit with the seats down so i can do squares up 3ft 6in but after that they have to travel on the roofrack- which gives me nightmares.

The first time i ever carried a large (and as yet unpainted) canvas on the roof i couldn't find my proper elasticated cords (i call them my bunjee cords) so i used string. Well, there was a gale blowing and rain lashing down and

.... yes 'ping' went the string and the canvas went sailing

... i couldn't see it anywhere and had to go round the block and come back to look for it - it was across on the other side of the road - 4 lanes across with a huge lorry driving over it - it must have been well made though as it was barely damaged!

I got soaked to the skin tying it back on and had to drive the rest of the way at 5miles and hour, with one hand out the window in the freezing rain to check that it wasn't lifting off again.

Oh the joys of being an artist

I have been paranoid about how many cords i tie paintings on with since!

I went to a good show of the late Braque's in London a few years ago. They had a few of his late bird ones. there was some great work, including his billiard tables - I prefer him to Picasso. Whilst i can appreciate Picasso he doesn't appeal to me greatly.

I think JL may have been referring to Brancusi .
About 10 years ago I had made a bigplywood box of a paper carrier and a stretcher that i made to fit in the bed of a short bed truck. It was great, It was painted and covered with a plastic water shield.It weighed about 50 lbs or maybe more. one day I was sailing North up the PA turnpike trying to get to some slate mines and do some paintings of slate crushers and the old cog railroad slab lifters. I was up around LaNSDALE pA WHEN the entire box just caught some wind and got sucked right out of my truck bed and then flew in the air . I could see it fly in the air like a great box kite. it too, landed way across the lanes in the southbound direction. It smashed like a coffin dropped from the 10th floor. **** was all over the place . AND to make matters really painful. I hadtherein a whole quire of De Arches 300 lb paper. It got wet, run over, stuck onto fences and otherwise destroyed. Now, after I rebuilt my box, I have a "Conestoga wagon" tonnaue cover over the bed of my new truck.
and my box has got a screw jack that keeps the box all wedged into the truck bed.
oh yeh, and I lost most of my good brushes and watercolors

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No, Farmerman, I was referring to the bird pictures painted by Braque from 1952 to 1961 (he died in 1963). I am referring to pictures shown (there were more) in the Abbeville, Modern Masters publication, authored by Karen Wilkin. Wonderful reproductions.
Vivien, I hold Picasso up there with Beethoven (well almost), but I see Braque's work as a little bit more pensive and "spiritual."

JLoh. from your post, when you said figures, i thought you meant the bird In Flight 'sculptures" , which, as you know probably were brancusis most famous series. Didnt realize the series name was so popularly used. Im not familiar with braques Bird in flight paintings. Ill go look. now that Askart.com is pay as you go, I no longer have access to one of the greate st sources on the web

you mean some of these?
http://images.allposters.com/images/mer/BRA007_a.jpg

I have to look Jl and farmer's refs up and in the meantime I howl in pain for farmerman's episode with the flying art work, not to mention the paper.... the paper... ohhhhhh.

And Vivien, I can't remember now if I have gone on and on about my pleasure with your work but you constantly amaze me with beauty in the sense I was talking about elsewhere, re fit.

Paper, I once had some expensive sheets of the wrong arches, a very absorbant one. I had this idea, see, which was to run a print of a landscape plan on arches and then paint it in, not in the usual way, but so as to reproduce what I've always loved, the BACK of a blueprint that has been marker'd in fast as a selling tool for a landscape project. I have always loved those bleary backs.

Unfortunately, when I had the blueprint/photocopy company xerox onto the paper, it was sponge city. I did a few and gave up, the usual fund problem. That was a long time ago, can't remember if I threw them out.
This was all pre-Hockney's play with landscape, though maybe at the same time.

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Farmerman, I've not seen that one, but the shapes are similar to those I have seen of Braque. This one has a different, lighter, look about it, almost like a Matisse "wallpaper" design.