Gun Control: Bill to Ban Clips Over 10 Rounds

Of course, I also realize that had the killer in Arizona wanted a high death count, limiting him to a 10 round clip would have done little good. He could easily have carried several weapons. And popping in a new clip would not take all that long either.

Of course, I also realize that had the killer in Arizona wanted a high death count, limiting him to a 10 round clip would have done little good. He could easily have carried several weapons. And popping in a new clip would not take all that long either.

This is where many of my fellow conservatives and I diverge on our views on firearms. I have no problem with limiting clips to 10 rounds. I don't see how this infringes on anyone's right to own a firearm or to use it to defend one's person or family. If it takes me more than 10 rounds to hit an intruder, then maybe I shouldn't have had the gun in the first place.

Of course, I also realize that had the killer in Arizona wanted a high death count, limiting him to a 10 round clip would have done little good. He could easily have carried several weapons. And popping in a new clip would not take all that long either.

Now if one or two others in the crowd had been carrying, then maybe he would never have gotten off so many rounds before someone pulled out their own weapon and popped him and saved us the expense of a trial. But I guess that is an argument for another thread.

CoastalRat wrote:

Of course, I also realize that had the killer in Arizona wanted a high death count, limiting him to a 10 round clip would have done little good. He could easily have carried several weapons. And popping in a new clip would not take all that long either.

So you weren't watching the news this week, huh? The shooter had at least three magazines. One of the women he had already shot took his second clip away from him as he attempted to reload. As he pulled out yet another clip, the two men who didn't run away, but ran toward the shooter, tackled him. If he had only had a ten-round clip, it's likely he would never have done so much damage.

You don't understand "social density"?

I think JoeN was quite clear in his comment.

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Cycloptichorn

unlikely, dave.

fertilizer is much more regulated than guns in Arizona...

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Granted Cy, changing clips did help lead to stopping him. So in this case we had a guy who had a single weapon and changed clips. My point was the even IF there had been a 10 round limit to clips, he could easily have carried several weapons with him, thus avoiding having to reload until he had exhausted each clip. Trust me, people bent on killing others will find a way around laws such as a 10 round per clip law. But again, while I think the law would be mostly a waste of time, I certainly would not lose any sleep over it being passed. It would not in the least hinder my ability to protect my family unless I was faced with more than 10 assailants at one time.

As an aside, though not germane to this discussion, is that had there been others at the event carrying weapons, he may well have been dropped before emptying his first clip, which also would have limited the killing. Just saying, ya know.

Yep, one shot, one kill. Of course, it would help if they were to stand still. Out in the open. With a bullseye painted on their chest.

Actually, after dropping one or two of them, I would expect the others to turn tail and run thus saving me from having to reload. But I digress.

And yes, Cy, carrying clips for reloading is easier than carrying multiple weapons and thus a law such as suggested would make things tougher. But as you say, someone determined to kill as many as possible will find a way. As an aside, though not germane to this discussion, is that had there been others at the event carrying weapons, he may well have been dropped before emptying his first clip, which also would have limited the killing. Just saying, ya know.