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The Republican Nomination For President: The Race For The Race For The White House

 
 
realjohnboy
 
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Reply Mon 20 Jun, 2011 06:46 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Oh, yeah, Tak. The life expectancy of a fluorescent bulb is not based on when it burns out. Rather, they get ever so gradually dimmer. Kind of like people.
I think the cut off point for bulbs is around 50% of capacity. Jim the Light Bulb Guy lectures me on the need to clean the plastic cover under the bulbs.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 20 Jun, 2011 06:54 pm
@realjohnboy,
How often do you clean your plastic lenses?
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 20 Jun, 2011 07:02 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Is this anything like Obama telling America how to inflate your tires?
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Mon 20 Jun, 2011 07:03 pm
@cicerone imposter,
We should do it twice a year because we often open the doors and we are on the corner or Main and 11th and get street grit.
For you, if you gave up smoking cigars and pot, once a year would be more than sufficient, I would think.
roger
 
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Reply Mon 20 Jun, 2011 07:23 pm
@realjohnboy,
I've had the same general idea of 50% capacity. They seem darken on the inside long before they actually fail. My question is whether they are using 50% of the rated electricity when we perceive they are putting out 50% of the rated light. This may not be the bargain in electricity it seems to be.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 20 Jun, 2011 09:23 pm
@realjohnboy,
The last time I smoked a cigar was in Havana; as a matter of fact, I smoked several of them, because my roommate "treated" me to a couple. I bought one of the most expensive and best, the Cohiba, and really enjoyed smoking it. Here's a review of the Cohiba.

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Review #199: By far my favourite cigar in the world. The sweet aroma as it burns, the smoothness of the smoke, even my wife loves the smell! All in all the standard by which all Robustos are measured. - Submitted by luap on March 23, 2011
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 21 Jun, 2011 07:55 am



Herman Cain: The Dreams of our Founding Fathers are ‘Under Attack’

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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 21 Jun, 2011 08:01 am



Obama Fails
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revelette
 
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Reply Tue 21 Jun, 2011 08:44 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
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It begins when a judge can personally benefit from a ruling he or she makes.

A possible event that was, presumably, very important to Judge Walker was directly and favorably affected by the way he ruled.

I feel certain you would have little trouble understanding the concept if you disagreed with Walker's ruling. If a judge with considerable shares in Microsoft issues a ruling in a case against Microsoft; which preserved or increased the value of those share, I've no doubt you would be arguing he should have recused himself because of his obvious personal interest in the case.


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n 2001, a conservative, corporate-aligned think tank called the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) gave Justice Clarence Thomas the gift of a $15,000 bust of Abraham Lincoln. At the ceremony presenting Thomas with this very expensive gift, AEI president Christopher DeMuth explained that the bust was “cast in 1914 by the great neo-classical sculptor Adolph Alexander Weinman.”

hiser on Jun 21, 2011 at 10:04 am

In 2001, a conservative, corporate-aligned think tank called the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) gave Justice Clarence Thomas the gift of a $15,000 bust of Abraham Lincoln. At the ceremony presenting Thomas with this very expensive gift, AEI president Christopher DeMuth explained that the bust was “cast in 1914 by the great neo-classical sculptor Adolph Alexander Weinman.” Watch it:

AEI, however, is not simply in the business of giving luxurious gifts to Supreme Court justices — it is also in the business of litigating before the United States Supreme Court. ThinkProgress uncovered three briefs that AEI filed in Thomas’ Court after Thomas received their $15,000 gift. Thomas recused from none of these three cases, and he either voted in favor of the result AEI favored or took a stance that was even further to the right in each case:

Riley v. Kennedy: AEI filed a brief asking the Supreme Court to reverse a lower court decision preventing a change in Alabama’s voting law from going into effect. Justice Thomas did not recuse, and he joined the Supreme Court’s decision reversing the lower court.

Parents Involved in Community Schools v. Seattle School District No. 1: AEI filed a brief asking the Supreme Court to reverse a lower court decisionupholding a local school district’s desegregation plan. Thomas joined the majority opinion reversing the lower court’s decision, and he filed a lengthy concurrence defending that result.

Whitman v. American Trucking Association: AEI joined a brief asking the Supreme Court to allow the EPA to consider the costs of implementing new air quality standards before it issued them. Thomas’ concurring opinion went much further than AEI asked him to go, suggesting that the law authorizing EPA to issue these standards is unconstitutional.

Although there is no evidence that AEI gave Thomas the $15,000 gift specifically to buy his vote in a particular case, Thomas’ decision to sit on cases where his benefactor has a demonstrated interest creates a very serious appearance of impropriety. No one would trust a judge to hear their case if they learned that someone on the other side of the case had given that judge a rare and expensive gift.


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JPB
 
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Reply Tue 21 Jun, 2011 10:44 am
Huntsman is officially in the race. He also came in a surprising second place in last weekend's Republican leadership conference straw poll.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 21 Jun, 2011 11:37 am


WHOM SHOULD THE DEMOCRATS SELECT TO REPLACE OBAMA IN 2012?
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Tue 21 Jun, 2011 05:21 pm
@parados,
Finally, a sensible argument.

If Walker actually had no serious desire or intent to marry his partner when he ruled on the case, there would be no reason for him to have recused himself.

If there is no evidence that Walker had such serious desire or intent, then I would agree with Judge Ware's ruling.

Since this is the first time someone challenged whether or not such desire or intent could be proven, I have to assume that those that went before you didn't believe that "minor issue" to be of significance. Of course it is.

Do you believe it is?

If the intent/desire could be proven would you agree Walker should have recused himself?
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Tue 21 Jun, 2011 05:29 pm
@revelette,
Your point is...?

Whether or not Thomas should have recused himself from cases involving AEI is totally immaterial in terms of the Walker matter.

Yours is a classic Liberal response: "I can't offer a rational argument why the actions of a liberal judge or politician were not wrong, so I will trot out an example of a conservative judge or politician whom I believe to be guilty of the same transgression."

revelette
 
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Reply Tue 21 Jun, 2011 06:30 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Perhaps you are correct, however, I am interested in whether you think Clarence Thomas should have recused himself since he received a gift worth so much from the AEI and whether an investigation should be conducted to see whether there was any impropriety in Justice Thomas ruling three times in their favor after receiving a gift from them.

For the record I don't think there is anything wrong with a gay judge judging in a case involving a gay marriage any more than I would a woman judge judging in a civil rights matter involving a woman even if at some point down the road that law could affect that judge in question. I mean where would such a rational end?

I don't think a rational argument is required since the judge did nothing wrong in the first place. Unlike the Clarence Thomas matter. So no it is not the same transgression since the first isn't a transgression at all.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Tue 21 Jun, 2011 08:20 pm
@revelette,
I think Thomas should not have accepted the gift.

I don't think, however, that AEI bought his rulings with a $15,000 bust of Lincoln.

The cases involving AEI didn't have a clear impact on the personal interests of Justice Thomas. It is preposterous to suggest that Thomas ruled in the favor of AEI because he was afraid that otherwise they would take the bust back.

You can argue that the bust constituted a bribe, but I think that is pretty far fetched, and so I would not support an investigation.

If you can demonstrate that Thomas' interests were potentially (realistically) impacted by his rulings on the AEI cases, then I might agree he should have recused himself, but the gift of a $15,000 bust doesn't fit the bill.

"For the record," I don't think there is anything wrong with a gay judge ruling on the legality of gay marriages...if the ruling doesn't grease the skids for his own desired/intended gay marriage.

It's not a question of whether or not the ruling will "sometime down the road" benefit the judge.

It's absurd to suggest that a gay judge who wants to get married to his gay partner is an equivalent situation to a woman judge who is happily married or single, but might benefit from her ruling ten years from now when she seeks a divorce or gets married and then seeks a divorce.

If you cannot discern the clear distinction between these two situations, there is no point in continuing this discussion.

The flaw of your arguing that Thomas is a bad guy, in the context of this subject, is not obviated by your belief that the Liberal guy did nothing wrong.
parados
 
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Reply Tue 21 Jun, 2011 08:25 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
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Finally, a sensible argument.

If Walker actually had no serious desire or intent to marry his partner when he ruled on the case, there would be no reason for him to have recused himself.

A sensible argument but you wanted to deride it when Judge Ware used it?

Just because Walker is in a same sex relationship doesn't support a presumption that he wanted to get married. That is what Ware told the homophobes that brought the case and what you tried to ignore. There is NO EVIDENCE that Walker wanted to get married. NONE. NADA. Absolutely no evidence at all. Your argument is based on nothing Finn and you were told that early on but simply ignored it.

Asking the court to PRESUME that someone has a bias is ridiculous. It is incumbent on the person claiming bias exists to show some evidence that will stand up in court. Arguing that someone MIGHT want to do something is NOT evidence. It is beyond stupid.

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If the intent/desire could be proven would you agree Walker should have recused himself?
Since the case has already been decided because there was NO EVIDENCE to support that statement, no. You are arguing that evidence exists that couldn't be presented. It's a fool's game you are playing Finn. No court will listen to any "evidence" at this point. The court has ruled and there was nothing there for evidence.

Are you really this much of an idiot Finn? You want to believe so bad that you don't care that the people that argued bias had NO EVIDENCE.
gungasnake
 
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Reply Tue 21 Jun, 2011 08:37 pm
@realjohnboy,
Polls are now showing a generic pubbie wiping Obunga in 2012. That means Donald Duck could beat him.

http://cache2.allpostersimages.com/p/LRG/22/2220/5MUAD00Z/posters/donald-duck.jpg
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 23 Jun, 2011 08:37 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
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It's absurd to suggest that a gay judge who wants to get married to his gay partner is an equivalent situation to a woman judge who is happily married or single, but might benefit from her ruling ten years from now when she seeks a divorce or gets married and then seeks a divorce.


It is not at all absurd, because both rely upon your mistaken presumption that you know the motives and inner desires of the judge.

Not that any of this 'analysis' you are presenting matters. You disagree with the ruling on moral grounds, not on logical ones.

Cycloptichorn
revelette
 
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Reply Thu 23 Jun, 2011 10:34 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
I don't think Clarence Thomas was afraid they would take the bust back. What it shows however is a favorable relationship between AEI and Clarence Thomas thereby making him appear biased in a ruling, which he proved when he ruled in their favor. It was an expensive bust.

I think it is biased on your part to assume the judge in the Walker case would rule in favor of gays simply because he is gay. You assume he only made the judgement because he has intentions of getting married to his partner. You assume this with no evidence other than he is gay and has been living with his partner for over a decade.

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The hearing today took place in the courtroom of Chief Judge James Ware, who took over the Prop 8 case after Walker's retirement. Both were George H.W. Bush appointees. Ethics experts were quick and nearly unanimous in opining that this effort to overturn Walker's decision on the basis of his relationship is specious as well as desperate. No claim that a federal judge should have been barred from hearing a case because of race, gender, or religion has ever succeeded, a point made by California Attorney General Kamala Harris in her brief opposing the motion to vacate this ruling: "Just as every single one of the attempts to disqualify judges on the basis of their race, gender, or religious affiliation has been rejected by other courts, this Court should similarly reject Defendant-Intervenors' effort to disqualify Judge Walker based on his sexual orientation."

Still, just because a legal argument is degrading and futile doesn't mean nobody will make it. For as long as there have been bigots in America, litigants have tried to argue that women are too womanly to decide gender cases and that Jews are too Jewish to hear cases involving the first attacks on the World Trade Center. Like ProtectMarriage, these litigants also have tried to dress up their claims as something other than pure bigotry. They never prevail.

The federal recusal statutes provide that judges should be disqualified in cases in which they are actually biased, and also in cases in which their impartiality might reasonably be questioned. As Sherrilyn Ifill wrote in The Root, the effort to besmirch Judge Walker's integrity is eerily similar to earlier campaigns against black and female judges:

In the late 1970s and early 1980s—as a bumper crop of minority federal district judges appointed by President Jimmy Carter presided over employment-discrimination cases brought under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964—recusal motions were filed by defendants seeking to remove black judges from hearing these cases. Black judges pushed back firmly against attempts to question their impartiality and framed what has become the universally accepted understanding among the bench and bar: that judicial bias cannot be assumed based on the racial, gender or other status of the judge.

In one of the most pathetic such efforts, cited by Ifill, litigants in 1975, representing the law firm of Sullivan & Cromwell, attempted to bounce federal district judge Constance Baker Motley off a suit brought by female lawyers at the firm alleging gender discrimination. The firm argued that Motley would be biased as a woman, an African-American, and a former civil rights litigator. Motley's response is as true for Walker today as it was for herself in 1975: "If background or sex or race of each judge were, by definition, sufficient grounds for removal, no judge on this court could hear this case, or many others, by virtue of the fact that all of them were attorneys, of a sex, often with distinguished law firm or public service backgrounds."

Federal District Judge Leon Higginbotham was faced at about the same time with a motion demanding that he too recuse himself from a case involving African-American plaintiffs claiming discrimination. He replied that "[white] litigants are going to have to accept the new day where the judiciary will not be entirely white and where some black judges will adjudicate cases involving race relations." Opponents of gay marriage will similarly have to accept the reality that gay judges are no more "biased" than heterosexual ones.


More at the source

Personally I am disappointed in this line of argument from you finn.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 23 Jun, 2011 11:11 am
@revelette,
Your last sentence said it best, and it also reflects my understanding of bias.

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Opponents of gay marriage will similarly have to accept the reality that gay judges are no more "biased" than heterosexual ones.
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