@spendius,
Quote:What a silly thing to say that is Frank.
I do not say silly things, Spendius. I leave that sort of thing to you.
Quote:They either chose not to use the natural methods in order to have a baby or they didn't know how to use them. How can they have had a kid if they used them? Are you saying they don't work? If so it is an admission. They do work.
A person can choose not to have intercourse…and no pregnancies will ensue. Any other attempt at what people like you call “natural methods” are problematic at best…and the evidence shows that unwanted pregnancies are more easily avoided using non-“natural method” methods. If you have trouble understanding that, the problem lies with your comprehension, not the methods.
Quote:The fact that you place inverted commas around natural says enough for me.
Really! Thank you for sharing that...whatever it means.
Quote:The Catholic bishops are not trying to impose anything.
Oh? And are we required to take your word for that?
Quote:They are offering a point of view.
They seem to be doing a lot more than just offering a point of view…whether you can see that or not. But I respect your opinion about what they are doing.
Quote:You needn't accept it. Neither does anybody else. They know that.
If they are offering a point of view, of course I do. Have I said otherwise?
Quote:You're giving your ego a little fondling by imagining that people are being imposed upon in ways you are smart enough not to fall for.
Do you make this stuff up on your own…or do you have help? And does your ego get a bit of fondling out of suggesting others are doing that?
Quote:That they are mugs. Dream on.
Not sure what you mean by this, Spendius, but I thought you Brits called them “pints.”