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The Republican Nomination For President: The Race For The Race For The White House

 
 
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 15 Feb, 2012 12:09 pm
Holy crap:

http://m.static.newsvine.com/servista/imagesizer?file=steve-benen1B37B2FB-B33A-5B6C-9EB2-F07153F7C25E.jpg&width=600

That is an ugly graph for Romney. Ugly.

Cycloptichorn
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 15 Feb, 2012 12:33 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
That essentially explains why Willard doesn't have a "prayer" on the national stage.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 15 Feb, 2012 12:50 pm


It's Obama that doesn't have a prayer on the national stage.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 15 Feb, 2012 03:03 pm
http://dailykos.com/story/2012/02/15/1065052/-Announcing-Operation-Hilarity-Let-s-keep-the-GOP-clown-show-going-?via=blog_1

Quote:
Wed Feb 15, 2012 at 12:30 PM PST
Announcing Operation Hilarity: Let's keep the GOP clown show going!

by kos

It's time for us to take an active role in the GOP nomination process. That's right, it's time for those of us who live in open primary and caucus states—Michigan, North Dakota, Vermont and Tennessee in the next three weeks—to head out and cast a vote for Rick Santorum.

Why would we do such a crazy thing? Lots of great reasons!

Republican turnout has sucked, and appears to be getting worse by the contest. Unlike the 2008 Democratic primaries, which helped President Barack Obama and the Democrats to build a national organization, the GOP is an organizational disaster, with waning voter interest. That means that it takes fewer votes to have an impact than if Republican turnout was maxed out.

Several of the contests have produced razor-thin margins of victory. Rick Santorum won Iowa by 34 votes, Mitt Romney "won" Maine by 194 votes. It won't take many of us to swing contests the way we want them to swing.

The longer this GOP primary drags on, the better the numbers for Team Blue. Not only is President Barack Obama rising in comparison to the clowns in the GOP field, but GOP intensity is down—which would have repercussions all the way down the ballot.

The longer this thing drags out, the more unpopular the Republican presidential pretenders become. Just look at Mitt Romney's trajectory, which followed Herman Cain's trajectory, and Newt Gingrich's trajectory, and Michelle Bachmann's trajectory, and so on.

Rick Santorum will inevitably follow the same path once he gets properly vetted. Mitt Romney has been unable to stem the bleeding despite his tens of millions. Just imagine Santorum, with the far more radical record and a continued inability to raise real money.

It's a no-brainer! The following states have completely open contests coming up:
2/28: Michigan (Primary)
3/6: North Dakota (caucus)
3/6: Tennessee (primary)
3/6: Vermont (primary)

If you live in one of those states, pledge to participate in Operation Hilarity by voting or caucusing for Rick Santorum. Click here for Michigan, here for North Dakota, here for Tennessee and here for Vermont.

If you live anywhere else, please contribute $5 to our Facebook ad effort to turn Democrats out in those elections. You can see a sample ad at the top right of this post.

And if you're squeamish about this, just remember what's at stake—not just the White House, but Nancy Pelosi's gavel and a Senate run by Mitch McConnell. The weaker the GOP standard bearer, the better our chances in November. Rush Limbaugh and his ilk have had no problem meddling in our own contests. And if there's one thing Daily Kos is about, it's about fighting fire with fire.

And in any case, it's freaking hilarious. I mean, Rick Santorum? Really? The Republicans have offered up this big, slow, juicy softball. Let's have fun whacking the heck out of it.

Please, contribute $5 to help us turn out Democrats in open Republican primaries and caucuses.


I strongly encourage any fellow Dems of mine to vote Santorum in the upcoming caucuses.

Cycloptichorn
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 15 Feb, 2012 04:14 pm


http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/DrillHereDrillNow.jpg
farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 15 Feb, 2012 04:26 pm
@H2O MAN,
That aint how the world works douche bag. When Bush had gas up to over 4$ a gallon we were blaming him and the president is the last guy in charge of any gas price policy. The fact is, the drillers and the companies DONT WANT A LOT OF GASOLINE ON THE MARKET . Why do you think that is the case genius?

In Pa , right now, nat gas prices are lower than theyve been for 20 years, so the drillers have begun capping gas wells and are curtailing any new drilling until the present GLUT is worn off and the porice stabilizes and rises. Thats not any govt officials fault, we have a GOP governor in PA and I dont blame him. He doesnt control the gas companies. ALL he can do is give them a big OPA welcome and make thibgs easy on them while they are here.

blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Wed 15 Feb, 2012 04:30 pm
@farmerman,
CH3-CHOOH and H2O Man Laughing
farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 15 Feb, 2012 04:36 pm
@blueveinedthrobber,
absofuckin lootely.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 15 Feb, 2012 04:43 pm


Laughing I knew the left wing fringe would react to that... irrational as expected
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hingehead
 
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Reply Wed 15 Feb, 2012 04:57 pm
I saw the author of 'The Dictator's Handbook' on a Daily Show ep last night. The guy uses game theory and apparently predicted the fall of the USSR and a bunch of other stuff and the CIA use him as a consultant.

Anyway he said that Newt would win the Repub nom - but lose the election. Hope I remember to check how right he was as the year unfolds....
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 15 Feb, 2012 05:00 pm
@hingehead,
hingehead wrote:



Anyway he said that Newt would win the Repub nom - but lose the election.



Lets hope he's only half right
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 15 Feb, 2012 05:23 pm
Just heard on the tube; the republicans are pushing "personhood" legislation in 12 states to make all abortions illegal. They've already gone off the deep end with contraceptives, and now they're calling ObamaCare "rape."

How can any thinking conservative support this shite?

Don't forget; this is the party that wants less government intrusion into private lives.

Come again?
realjohnboy
 
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Reply Wed 15 Feb, 2012 05:39 pm
A Brokered Convention
I commented on that notion a couple of months ago, when the possibility was "very remote." We are now at "remote" with some pundits inching towards "possible."
The Republican establishment set up a prolonged preconvention process to, I think, keep the Tea Party people. The Repubs did not anticipate that their remaining declared candidates at this point would have such high unfavorable ratings.
It seems to me that their best option at this point is to hope that none of the candidates gets to 1144 delegates and someone new - or not so new - will come in.
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spendius
 
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Reply Wed 15 Feb, 2012 05:45 pm
@cicerone imposter,
What's up with that? Do you want more intrusion?

We all recognise that there has to be some government intrusion. It is a question of how little or how much. Private lives intrude on the public purse. They are not little isolated entities.
realjohnboy
 
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Reply Wed 15 Feb, 2012 06:29 pm
Arizona and Michigan will hold their primaries on Feb 28th. Romney has a solid lead in the former and something like 30% of the expected turnout have already voted.
Santorum has a surprising lead in Michigan but Romney has almost two weeks to spend a zillion dollars on advertising. He will have to do that as MI is one of his home states and a loss there would be pretty devastating.
A week later, on March 6th, is Super Tuesday when some 10 states hold contests. The results will probably decide the race.
Or perhaps not. A Repub candidate needs 1144 delegates to nail down the nomination on the 1st round.
California will not select its 172 delegates until June 6th. And tonight comes word that Texas will likely delay its primary with 155 delegates until late in May.
Something like 14% of delegates are allocated to those two states.
Texas, after the census, gained a bunch of people. Redistricting is a messy battle down there. They could go ahead with the Repub presidential primary earlier and come back later to other races but that would be expensive.
Gingrich perhaps has a lead in TX so the late date might allow him to hang on.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 15 Feb, 2012 06:30 pm
@realjohnboy,
realjohnboy wrote:

Arizona and Michigan will hold their primaries on Feb 28th. Romney has a solid lead in the former and something like 30% of the expected turnout have already voted.
Santorum has a surprising lead in Michigan but Romney has almost two weeks to spend a zillion dollars on advertising. He will have to do that as MI is one of his home states and a loss there would be pretty devastating.
A week later, on March 6th, is Super Tuesday when some 10 states hold contests. The results will probably decide the race.
Or perhaps not. A Repub candidate needs 1144 delegates to nail down the nomination on the 1st round.
California will not select its 172 delegates until June 6th. And tonight comes word that Texas will likely delay its primary with 155 delegates until late in May.
Something like 14% of delegates are allocated to those two states.
Texas, after the census, gained a bunch of people. Redistricting is a messy battle down there. They could go ahead with the Repub presidential primary earlier and come back later to other races but that would be expensive.
Gingrich perhaps has a lead in TX so the late date might allow him to hang on.


Perry has to be just absolutely kicking himself for dropping out.

Getting exciting, isn't it!

Cycloptichorn
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 15 Feb, 2012 06:34 pm
@spendius,
Do you not understand simple English?
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 15 Feb, 2012 06:40 pm
@realjohnboy,
If Gingrich can hold off the double barreled attack aimed at him and win Georgia he will stand a good chance at winning Texas and somehow become the nominee.
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Wed 15 Feb, 2012 06:48 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:


Perry has to be just absolutely kicking himself for dropping out.
Getting exciting, isn't it!
Cycloptichorn


In my mind, a brokered convention would mean that none of the four candidates would get 1144 votes on the 1st round. The delegates are then released to vote for whomever they please. You might see Gingrich and Santorum unite. More likely, I think, is the possibility that another candidate who "suspended" a campaign (Bachmann, Cain, Perry etc) will decide to come back, along with others (Christie, Huckabee, Rubio etc). That kind of wide open convention has happened in my lifetime.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 15 Feb, 2012 06:54 pm
@realjohnboy,
The real question is, will the conservatives come out and vote for the final contender? Looks like they're all carrying some heavy baggage now, and none seem too promising.

The pundits are saying Willard has the best chance against Obama, but I doubt that very much! The Tea Party and evangelicals aren't about to vote for Williard.
 

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