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The Republican Nomination For President: The Race For The Race For The White House

 
 
realjohnboy
 
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Reply Tue 22 Feb, 2011 02:36 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Could be Cyclo. I found the states (and their electoral votes) favoring this much more easily then I thought I would.
Hawaii (4), Illinois (20), Mass (11), Maryland (10), New Jersey (14), Washington (12), Vermont (3), D.C. (3)
realjohnboy
 
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Reply Tue 22 Feb, 2011 04:52 pm
@realjohnboy,
Thune by the way was elected to the Senate in 2004 and was reelected in 2010 with no opposition. I suspect he decided to pass on 2012 with an eye on 2016.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 22 Feb, 2011 04:55 pm
@realjohnboy,
realjohnboy wrote:

Thune by the way was elected to the Senate in 2004 and was reelected in 2010 with no opposition. I suspect he decided to pass on 2012 with an eye on 2016.


Josh Marshall had this to say about it today:

Quote:
Thune Not Running

Tell me again why none of the first tier candidates are willing to run in 2012?




Cycloptichorn
realjohnboy
 
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Reply Tue 22 Feb, 2011 05:07 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
There are a couple of fistfuls of potential Repub candidates. But many of them realize it will be tough financially to participate in the race for the nomination, much less in a general election vs Obama. Many of them might decide to wait until 2016.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 22 Feb, 2011 05:25 pm
@cicerone imposter,
A whopping 72% of conservatives do not want Palin to run for president - ever.
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JPB
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2011 04:08 pm
No big surprises here. And, I still like Huntsman.

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*** The six who are running: After spending the last several weeks dipping their toes in the Iowa and New Hampshire waters, after selling their books, after speaking to reporters, and after assembling early campaign teams, we have a pretty good idea of the early 2012 GOP field. This list isn’t exhaustive, but these six Republicans look to be sure bets to get in the race: Haley Barbour (who will announce his decision by April or May), Jon Huntsman (who seems likely to get in after his ambassadorship ends on April 30), Newt Gingrich (who will make up his mind by the end of this month), Tim Pawlenty (who will decide in “the next few weeks”), Mitt Romney (whose team has been laying low), and Rick Santorum (who will decide in the next three months).

*** The six who are sitting on the sidelines: So that’s likely your field by the spring/early summer, along with the Herman Cain, Gary Johnson, and maybe even Donald Trump (gulp). But here’s a story that will likely compete with the GOP six-pack: the Republicans on the sidelines who could jump in the race. That includes the folks who haven’t made up their minds (but who also haven’t really prepped for a run and so are being treated by donors as NON-candidates): Michele Bachmann, Mitch Daniels, Mike Huckabee, and Sarah Palin. And then there are those who maintain they’re not running (but who will remain part of the discussion anyway): Jeb Bush and Chris Christie. Don’t underestimate the impact that the focus and chatter on the Sideline Six -- up until New Hampshire’s filing date -- could have on the GOP race. Even today, the New York Times’ David Brooks devotes his column urging Daniels to get in the race. Expect to see more of this… Source
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2011 05:46 pm
@realjohnboy,
How much does it cost to run in the presidential campaign? Average cost?
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parados
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2011 06:59 pm
@H2O MAN,
Even Obama has noticed you are incompetent squirt.
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JPB
 
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Reply Sun 27 Feb, 2011 04:20 pm
It looks like Newt is in.

Quote:
WASHINGTON — Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich intends to take a formal step toward entering the 2012 presidential race within the next two weeks, Republican officials said Sunday, after he spent months traveling to important primary and caucus states.

These officials declined to say precisely what type of announcement the 67-year-old former Georgia lawmaker would make, but added they expect him to make clear his determination to run.

If so, he would be the first prominent Republican to do so in a slow-to-develop field of potential challengers to President Barack Obama. More
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Sun 27 Feb, 2011 04:45 pm
@realjohnboy,
realjohnboy wrote:

There are a couple of fistfuls of potential Repub candidates. But many of them realize it will be tough financially to participate in the race for the nomination, much less in a general election vs Obama. Many of them might decide to wait until 2016.

I'm only speculating, but I suspect that many potential candidates and Republican supporters may see more to be gained from expanding Republican votes in the Senate than from a very expensive and uncertain effort in unseating an incumbent President. I'm sure there some, like Gingrich, who are eager to run, but personally don't see any of them as formidable candidates.

In addition, I also suspect that some are waiting to see how the pending budget showdown plays out in the public mind.
realjohnboy
 
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Reply Sun 27 Feb, 2011 05:14 pm
@georgeob1,
I think we are on the same page, georgeob. Newt is 67 years old, I believe. 2012 will be his last chance to grab the gold ring. If Obama stumbles, if the economy tanks, perhaps he may have a chance. I don't recall how old Romney is.
I am inclined to believe that there are a bunch of younger Repubs who are quite content to lay low until 2016, bolstering their resumes as Governors or Congressmen and hoping the balance of power in the Senate will turn their way in 2012.
mysteryman
 
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Reply Mon 28 Feb, 2011 11:01 am
There are, right now, 3 possible repub contenders that will NOT get my support if they run.
Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachman will not only not get my support, but I would campaign against them.
Newt, while I would not support him, I would also not oppose him.

Right now, I am leaning towards Gov. Daniels of Indiana.
I live in Ky, right across the river from Evansville In, and much of what he does affects me, because I am so close to his state, and spend a lot of money in Evansville.

With the exception of the 3 potential candidates I mentioned that I wont support, I have not yet made up my mind about who will get my support.
Like most people, I am waiting to see who will run and who wont.

Yes, I am leaning towards Gov Daniels, but only because I know more about him, right now, then I do the other candidates.

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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 28 Feb, 2011 11:06 am
@realjohnboy,
Quote:
Newt is 67 years old, I believe. 2012 will be his last chance to grab the gold ring.


Hell no, you want to wait until Newt gets good and senile, like Reagan. That's what makes a good Repub prez.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 28 Feb, 2011 11:07 am
@realjohnboy,
realjohnboy wrote:

I think we are on the same page, georgeob. Newt is 67 years old, I believe. 2012 will be his last chance to grab the gold ring. If Obama stumbles, if the economy tanks, perhaps he may have a chance. I don't recall how old Romney is.
I am inclined to believe that there are a bunch of younger Repubs who are quite content to lay low until 2016, bolstering their resumes as Governors or Congressmen and hoping the balance of power in the Senate will turn their way in 2012.


It's important to remember that Gingrich makes a ton of money by scamming people. It's one of his primary funding sources - giving out phony 'awards' and tricking people into donating money to him.

I think he probably sees the presidential elections as just one more scam; a pay-day. He's respected enough that he will get donations and funding to put something together that will allow him to keep traveling, speaking and generally staying relevant for another year.

Cycloptichorn
JTT
 
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Reply Mon 28 Feb, 2011 11:07 am
@realjohnboy,
Quote:
Finn to Johnboy: "You pompous little git."


I'm curious RJB, what was it that made you a pompous little git?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 28 Feb, 2011 11:53 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Cyclo, If people are tricked into giving money to Gingrich, that's not his problem that there are stupid people in this world.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 1 Mar, 2011 07:03 am
@cicerone imposter,
CI, people are tricked into giving money to Obama, he has no problem with this because he preys on the stupid people in this world.

Jimmy Carter with a tan is this nations worst president ever.
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JPB
 
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Reply Tue 1 Mar, 2011 03:45 pm
Who are these people?

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Huckabee claims Obama grew up in Kenya

From NBC's Domenico Montanaro and Sarah Blackwill
Mike Huckabee, the former Arkansas governor considering another run for president in 2012, inaccurately claimed on a conservative talk-radio show that President Obama grew up in Kenya.

"[O]ne thing that I do know is his having grown up in Kenya, his view of the Brits, for example, very different than the average American," Huckabee told host Steve Malzberg, the Washington Post reported. (Huckabee is on a multi-state book tour that is taking him to key presidential nominating states.)

Huckabee's claim that President Obama grew up in Kenya is false. President Obama was born in Hawaii and spent part of his youth in Indonesia, not Kenya. The president's biological father was Kenyan, and Obama barely knew him.

Huckabee has said he believes President Obama was born in the United States -- unlike the so-called "Birthers," who believe falsely that the president was born elsewhere. Huckabee reiterated his standard reasoning for that again today.

"The only reason I'm not as confident that there's something about the birth certificate ... is because I know the Clintons well, and believe me they had lots of investigators out on him," Huckabee said, "and I'm convinced if there was anything they could have found on that they would have found it, and I promise they would have used it."

But Huckabee didn't shoot down other conspiracy theories like the president not having health or college records, floated by Malzberg. Here's a partial transcript:

MALZBERG: Don't you think it's fair also to ask him - I know your stance on this - how come we don't have a health record? We don't have a college record? We don't have a birth certif- why Mr. Obama did you spend millions of dollars in courts all over this country to defend against having to present a birth certificate. It's one thing to say, "You've seen it, goodbye. But why go to court and send lawyers to defend against having to show it?" Don't you think we deserve to know more about this man?

HUCKABEE: I would love to know more - what I know is troubling enough. And one thing that I do know is his having grown up in Kenya - his view of the Brits, for example, very different from the average American. When he gave the bust back to [of Winston Churchill] -- of Winston Churchill, yeah. A great insult to the British, but if you think about it - his perspective growing up in Kenya with a Kenyan father and granfather, their view of the Mau Mau Revolution is very different from ours, because he probably grew up hearing that the British were a bunch of imperialists who persecuted his grandfather.

MALZBERG: He despises the West, he despises the Brits, and I think he could take it all out on Israel, and that's why he despises Israel. He's not too thrilled with our history either... Would you say to him or at least ask him in a debate: Why did you go to court and spend millions of dollars on lawyers to prevent from having to show your birth certificate? If you have one, and it's there, why not show it?

HUCKABEE: The only reason I'm not as confident that there's something about the birth certificate, Steve, is because I know the Clintons well, and believe me they had lots of investigators out on him, and I'm convinced if there was anything they could have found on that they would have found it and I promised they would have used it. Source
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 1 Mar, 2011 04:39 pm
@JPB,
It's just mind-boggling that his handlers - presuming he has any - would let him make comments like that on TV.

Cycloptichorn
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 1 Mar, 2011 05:38 pm
@JPB,
Huck is that dumb? He can run with Palin. I don't mean for president; I mean out of the country.
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