Nancy Pelosi -- Should she maintain a leadership position for the dems?

Reply Sun 2 Dec, 2018 03:14 am
Pelosi knows how to create an appearance of sharing power while maintaining control.

Such an adept politician.

That is not a compliment.
Reply Sun 2 Dec, 2018 09:03 am

Such an adept politician.

That is not a compliment.

It should be. We need adept politicians like we need adept scientists and lawyers and electricians and factory workers if we want to progress as a country.
Reply Sun 2 Dec, 2018 09:05 am
I think we should fire the politicians and hire honest representatives.

The regular people are suffering, and they shouldn’t be.
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Reply Sun 2 Dec, 2018 07:20 pm

Reply Sun 2 Dec, 2018 08:14 pm
Had to go back 30 years to find something useful Pelosi did.

Did she make her first million as a public servant? Maybe her second million?

You know what she said in 2016? That me and my countrymen would never get universal healthcare and that $15. would never happen.

I guess as long as SHE has a way to get medical care, that’s really all that matters.
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Reply Sun 2 Dec, 2018 09:41 pm
Pelosi pledges to pass Dream Act with Democratic House majority

Published December 2, 2018
WASHINGTON — Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi vowed to pass legislation that would put so-called Dreamers — young undocumented immigrants who came to the U.S. as children — on a pathway to citizenship when her party retakes control of Congress' lower chamber in January.

"America draws strength from our long, proud heritage as a nation of immigrants. In the Majority, Democrats will work to reverse the Republicans' destructive anti-immigrant agenda," Pelosi said in a statement Saturday, responding to a letter sent Thursday by the Congressional Hispanic Caucus. "Our House Democratic Majority will once again pass the Dream Act to end the uncertainty and fear inflicted on patriotic young men and women across the country."

Lawmakers in the Caucus urged Pelosi — who is vying to secure her second spell as speaker of the House during the upcoming congressional session — to schedule votes on legislation to codify protections for recipients of the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program and for immigrants with Temporary Protected Status (TPS) within the first 100 days of the 116th Congress.

"We will protect TPS recipients and those fleeing unimaginable violence," Pelosi added in her statement.

Rep. Adriano Espaillat, D-New York, one of the members of Congress who signed the letter to Pelosi, told CBS News that Democrats should move ahead "expeditiously" in January to pass bills that shield Dreamers and TPS holders from deportation, without providing any funding for a wall on the southern border — which President Trump and many Republicans have said needs to be included in any bipartisan immigration proposal.

"I think the Dream Act should be taken on alone, with no poison pills attached to it," Espaillat said.

The congressman from New York added House Democrats should try to pass the bills within the first 100 days of the next session — something Pelosi did not promise in her statement.

"These young people are still in limbo," Espaillat said. "Had it not been for the courts, they would probably be underground, they would be in the shadows."

The Trump administration tried to dismantle DACA, which covers approximately 800,000 undocumented immigrants, in the fall of 2017 — but a prolonged court battle has kept the program alive. The Department of Homeland Security also announced the eventual termination of TPS programs for El Salvador, Honduras, Sudan and Haiti, but a federal judge blocked the decision in early October.

The government has appealed the TPS court ruling and urged the Supreme Court to hear the DACA case.

In her statement, Pelosi also suggested Democratic-controlled committees in the House will probe the White House's controversial practice of forcibly separating migrant children from their parents near the U.S.-Mexico border — which President Trump was forced to rescind by way of an executive order after a massive uproar.

"We will hold the Trump Administration accountable for their inhuman policy of separating families, and the trauma and anguish they have inflicted on vulnerable children and families at our border," she said.

The Congressional Hispanic Caucus also stressed in their letter to Pelosi that passing comprehensive immigration reform should be a priority when Democrats take control of the House for the first time since 2011. The Latino lawmakers said the bill should include provisions to allow deported U.S. military veterans to come back to the country, end "the militarization" of the southern border, reunify still-separated migrant families and provide a pathway to citizenship for the approximately 11 million undocumented immigrants residing in the U.S.

"These hardworking, taxpaying undocumented workers have enriched our country, while contributing their knowledge, traditions, and intellect to the fabric of our culture. They are part of America's economic engine," they wrote in their letter.

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Reply Sun 2 Dec, 2018 11:46 pm
georgeob1 wrote:

It's a bit odd to read of Democrats complaining about supposed "assaults on the character" of their political leaders.

George, you try my patience.
Reply Mon 3 Dec, 2018 11:44 am
You started my day with a laugh.
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Reply Mon 3 Dec, 2018 10:10 pm
Democrats should learn from history, Pelosi’s leadership is needed

Published December 3, 2018
In 1981, Tip O'Neill was Speaker when President Jimmy Carter lost to Ronald Reagan. The Democrats lost the Senate and a score of seats in the House. A group of insurgent Democrats decided it was time for a change of leadership and launched an attack on O'Neill to dethrone him as Speaker. He had been depicted by the Republicans as too old, too Massachusetts and from a bygone era of Democratic politics - some of the same arguments being used against Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.).
But O'Neill summoned his skills honed over 40 years laboring in the legislative vineyards to advance the Democratic agenda and beat back the insurgents. The rest, as they say is history. Over the next two years O'Neill galvanized the Democratic House as the loyal opposition as a redoubt against the Reagan revolution. He stood firm to protect social security and other safety net social programs. He became the foil to a popular president and when he retired in 1986, his popularity was on a par with Reagan's. In 1982, he led the Democrats to capture 26 seats in the midterms.

O'Neill's leadership in the House preserved Democratic programs and values - exactly what Nancy Pelosi has done in her years in the House, both as the first woman Speaker and then as minority leader. The next two years will require the same skill, dexterity and political perspicacity in the current split government that was required of O'Neill in 1981. There is another parallel between O'Neill and Pelosi that will serve her ability to manage an unprecedently diverse Democratic Caucus.

O'Neill hailed from the liberal academic enclave of Cambridge but brought a working class sensibility to office (his father was superintendent of sewers). Although Pelosi has resided in San Francisco for decades, she too hails from the working class precincts of Baltimore. O'Neill used the instincts honed in representing diverse districts to bridge a divide in a Caucus that ranged from Southern Democrats (William Jennings Bryan Dorn of North Carolina - who voted with liberals a mere 16 percent of the time - seconded his nomination for majority leader) to Northeast liberals - something Pelosi will also need to do to preserve her majority.

It is not a time to throw over the sure hand and experience of Pelosi for the fleeting sound bite and superficial appeal of a new face. Leaders with the intestinal fortitude to lead in difficult times aren't born overnight - they are forged in the crucible of adversity and combat that renders them tested for the rigors of a contest with a Republican president and Senate that await the next Speaker. It is no time for unsure hands who have never lived through the legislative battles that Pelosi has successfully navigated. Just as O'Neill was the man for his time in the House, Pelosi is the woman for her time in the same way. The Democrats should read history and follow the proven path shown over 37 years ago.

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Reply Tue 4 Dec, 2018 08:11 am
I love this picture of Elizabeth Taylor. It was before I really started paying too much attention to politics. I don't think I ever saw a picture of Nancy Pelosi looking so young. (I know kind of frivolous.)

However, it does show how Pelosi was progressive when progressiveness wasn't cool.

Reply Tue 4 Dec, 2018 05:06 pm
It showed most of her constituents were gay.

Now, the gays would like universal healthcare.
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