Has America got it's head up it's ass

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The only president to balance the budget was hounded by the holier than thou republican party over a BJ, it was disgusting to see the holier than thou republican party drag him through dirt on a daily basis. This is the republican party who consistently pander to the lowest common denominator. They will align with anybody to gain power, they will resort to the vilest practices to discredit people, they will embrace the most sickening ideologies to gain power.The worse thing is, they dont hide the fact their a bigoted, right wing, racist party, all for the rich, i'm all right jack, throw the poor a few scraps. And what happens America votes them in. Then their in power for 8 years under the idiot Bush, they've busted the country with their relaxed regulation, "the market will find it's way" yeah!. They've lowered Americas image in the world by breaking international law, torturing people, starting an illegal war in Iraq causing the deaths of thousands of young American soldiers and at least a hundred thousand innocent Iraqis. Now their back with the same argument, less regulation, let business do what it wants, the same xenophobic, racist, hate filled message delivered by airheads like palin and what does America do, rewards them, encourages them by voting for them again. I used to, the world used to look to you America as a beacon of light, a fair, welcoming country, then there was Bush & Co. But then there was obama and we thought, YES, go on America, get back that respect. Then there was yesterday, voting in the same shower that put America on it's knees. So i ask has America got it's head up it's ass ?????
George, an Irish American.

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Fido wrote:

Who said life was fair... The problem is, that while the democrats have their hearts in the right place, they have as much fight in them as a punching bag... The republicans know how to tell the big lie and keep on telling it... The dems act like a guy who is first distracted enough to have his shoe laces tied together, and then after being dusted off and picked up finds he has a kick me, I'm stupid sign on his back...

You have to do more than deny the big lie... You have to cut some balls off and feed them to their former owners... The democrats of this country who are more like human beings than your average americans have got to learn to hold their neighbors responsible for their votes... They have got to learn to talk to those people who have the big republican signs in their yard and say to them: What if I hold you personally responsible for the actions of that particular dumass??? Would you like that??? They won't do it...

People who do not believe in magic or fate will accept the inevitable bad government that grows out of party systems and majority rule as beyond their control... I say: live with it and eat ****, or fight back... Most good hearted democrats will just eat **** because that is something they want to do anyway... They like being victims... They liked being bill clintons victims... He didn't have to be such an asshole and hand the job off to Mr. Bush... If he had been able to beg some off of Hillary, he might have saved us a depression and a war or two... He did not, and that makes him an ass...

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@eurocelticyankee,

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Has America got it's head up it's ass

No, not all of America, just about 51%.

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@Fido,

I hear what your saying, you have to sink to their level to beat them, but then you become them and that defeats the purpose. But i do agree it would be nice to see the Dems get down and dirty, except maybe Hillary.

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@Green Witch,

I know GW. Thats why i'll never give up on USA, you just get a little worried sometimes that the lunatics will get in again.

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@eurocelticyankee,

eurocelticyankee wrote:

I hear what your saying, you have to sink to their level to beat them, but then you become them and that defeats the purpose. But i do agree it would be nice to see the Dems get down and dirty, except maybe Hillary.

Its true; but the mistake is in playing chicken with a madman... We don't need them; but they need us... We pay the taxes that keep the rich rich... We pay the taxes and make the military that defends their wealth... We work for them and they won't even work for themselves, and the majority goes along with them because they say everyhting will be better and our best days a just ahead... They ain't..

We have been bled dry by our rich and are facing absolute slavery... How long before those republican idiots take the example of the weimar republic and decide that the cure for a democracy that does not work is a tyranny that does??? Idiots should not have a place in politics... The religious should stay home and pray, if they believe... I do not expect they will, but they should be forced to take responsibility for the choices they make... They have given the republicans and the rich the power to destroy this society by halves... And the haves are taking it...

Will we just let them continually run us down, tell lies, and demean us... Make them defend what they say... I call them on it... Why can't we all... Because our unwillingness to fight back is seen as an inability to excuse those who claim to act in our behalf... I do not think either, or any party is the answer... I do not think letting others kick you to hell and back is an answer either... Why be civil when the other side is not...

Forget civility, and accept honesty... Be honest and call the other what he is, what he must know he is.. People vote republican because they are assholes, or identify with the assholes because they do not want to see what losers they are... They are not going to be better off, but they will have the knowledge that they did it to themselves...

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@eurocelticyankee,

eurocelticyankee wrote:

I know GW. Thats why i'll never give up on USA, you just get a little worried sometimes that the lunatics will get in again.

Count on it because the only way to get rid of one idiot horse is to saddle up another...

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@eurocelticyankee,

Even from over here on the other side of the world it looks pretty depressing.
I saw your new speaker ( can't remember his name) on the news this morning referring to the US as having had the best health care system in the world... how ignorant can a man in this position be?

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@MonaLeeza,

He's not my new speaker, i live in Ireland which believe me has it's own problems, but i was born in the US, so have a strong affinity to it. Plus i think a lot of Americans dont realise theres another world outside America. Also they seem to confuse socialism with communism, they just dont get the concept of universal health care, like the NHS in britain or the health services in most of europe or even Canada. God Damn Commies !! ha

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@Green Witch,

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No, not all of America, just about 51%

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The 51 percents that vote this time.

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@MonaLeeza,

His name is easy to remember: it's Boehner, sounds like "boner" - which around my neighborhood is slang for an erection. It suits him.

We do have the best health care - if you are fabulously wealthy. Everyone else has to work as indentured servants, beg, battle or go broke. Most Americans aren't smart enough to figure that out.

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Also they seem to confuse socialism with communism

Another thing Americans are clueless about. Maybe we should start spending more on education - oh wait, isn't that communism?

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@eurocelticyankee,

eurocelticyankee wrote:

He's not my new speaker, i live in Ireland which believe me has it's own problems, but i was born in the US, so have a strong affinity to it. Plus i think a lot of Americans dont realise theres another world outside America. Also they seem to confuse socialism with communism, they just dont get the concept of universal health care, like the NHS in britain or the health services in most of europe or even Canada. God Damn Commies !! ha

Many Americans know there is "another world outside America," but really do not care, since the U.S. is a 3,000 mile wide nation, and life can be very pleasant without being rich. That is why so many non-rich Southerners do vote Republican. While the wealthy do vote Republican, since the Republicans are more likely to allow them to keep their wealth, there are many non-wealthy that vote Republican, since they are conservatives, in that maintaining the status quo is often their goal. In other words, let their children inherit the same world they lived in, without liberal progressives turning the U.S. into a "brave new world." It has to do with wanting one's children to value religion, value family, value old-fashioned morality, and be able to live one's life without big government mentoring us to no end.

Also, while you point out your Irish heritage, for much of the country the U.S. is the "end of the road." Nowhere to go back to. And, many cannot even claim one (or two) national heritages. Many start counting the different nationalities that they comprise, to result in their being American in the 21st century.

I do believe any Irishman should be grateful for the U.S. willing to let in all the famine survivors in the nineteenth century. There would have been many more dead, if there was not an open gate in the U.S., at that point in history.

Plus, in so many urban or suburban settings in the U.S. we see Protestants and Catholics living ever so peacefully together. I think that is a positive, compared to the "troubles" that Ireland experienced, not to mention the centuries of British rule.

In other words, when one needs a strong friend, the U.S. is a good friend to have. The old saw comes to mind, do not burn one's bridges.

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@eurocelticyankee,

Your initial statement is false. Andrew Jackson not only balanced the budget, but in 1835, he paid off the national debt. Don't make **** up, Bubba.

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@Foofie,

Like i said at the start, the world including Ireland looked to America as a beacon of hope, a strong ally as you said. Now i'm as much an American as i am an Irishman, my father was American, i was born in Phili, my son attends college in St Louis. I believe in family, morality, religion i've no time for, but i respect the rights of people to believe in what ever they choose. You say a lot of Americans dont care about the rest of the world and just want to get on with their own life, thats fine, off course, thats their right, but you must remember the rest of the world cant afford that luxury. We have to worry what happens in America as it can have devastating effects on the rest of the world. there are so many examples where America has intervened or interfered in the world, good and bad, recent examples, good-Ireland, bad-Iraq. So anyhow you yourself might not care about the world outside America, thats your right, but you certainly cannot say the same for your country

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@Setanta,

I'm talking about in our lifetime. 1835 is irrelevant, different times different world, maybe George Washington got a BJ of his secretary, is that relevant Bubba.

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@eurocelticyankee,

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1835 is irrelevant, different times different world

Nonsense 175 years is not that long ago in the overall history of mankind and the Rome Republic was a 1700 years dead at the time the US founding fathers used it as part of the modal for our own republic.

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maybe George Washington got a BJ of his secretary

LOL all his secretaries was male so that would had been an interesting bit of information to have.

Note the nail that kill the Rome Republic was the unbalance of wealth and power and that sound like todays headlines.

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@BillRM,

Good one Bill, is this a rumour we're starting. ha

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@Setanta,

Setanta wrote:

Your initial statement is false. Andrew Jackson not only balanced the budget, but in 1835, he paid off the national debt. Don't make **** up, Bubba.

No doubt your correction is correct, Set - but it kinda isn't the whole point of the thread, though.

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@Setanta,

Setanta wrote:

Your initial statement is false. Andrew Jackson not only balanced the budget, but in 1835, he paid off the national debt. Don't make **** up, Bubba.

You are a goddamed stupid ass if you don't know, or admit that Jackson balanced the budget by selling a lot of indian land off from under them that was not his to sell, and that the national debt has always been run up exactly for that purpose, to rob the public and the people of all the commonwealth... It does not matter whether the commonwealth is in private or public hands... All the wealth of the people still has to support the population... The so called national debt; which is only run up to carry on business as usual without the necessity of taxing those with the wealth is really a means of funneling the wealth of the people to the rich... Now, the rich have all the public property they can consume, and they have empoverished the public to such an extent that all people are parted with the capital of generations and their rights for a pot of porrage, and the government does not help them, but makes their ruin more certain... It is too bad they cannot figure things out, but they will, or be slaves...

Why people admire Reagan, or Clinton is a mystery of stupidity... These people robbed us... Everytime OUR government gives preference to profit that it will not tax, and taxes flat line wages, and watches as the national capital is exported, and international poverty is imported it is and enemy of the people it controls... If they hate us, and act against us we are justified in hating them and acting against them, and should if we have the will of worms in our mortal frames... So Satanta, if you are going to make an object of truth, then bother to tell it, all...

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@Fido,

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You are a goddamed stupid ass if you don't know [fill in the blank]

Bull's eye! Give that man his choice of any of the teddy bears!

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