Dems looking for way to get rid of Obunga?

When you insult an elected official you insult all who voted for him, or her; but if that is your aim, insult without reason, then why should I try to detain you???

The American people voted against John the "Maverick(TM)" McCain last time out. How many people you figure actually voted FOR Bork Obunga? Five? Six??

None of us are happy with the situation... The government does not work for us, but for money... If we have all taken up the Southern habit of using the vote against to destroy those we hate; who can fault us??? People voted for change and got short changed... The republicans voted for no change and got way more than they voted for; but not nearly enough...All we are doing on both sides is getting the long way around accepting that only revolution is going to make anything about our government and economy work...

If there was a revolutionwhat would we put in place of what we've got?

as i stated in another thread

the revelation will not be televised

the revolution will just go 'round and 'round

the restitution will be an IOU*



* redeemable for a pound of government cheese

The biggest changes would have to involve the nature of money and banking.


http://www.webofdebt.com

Easy... We would replace what we do not want and does not work with what works and is wanted... People do not mind paying for what they get... The problem is paying for what they get not, or get badly... Look at the preamble of the Constitution... Are those goals not worth the sacrifice of life??? But to sacrifice all the life we have for goals not met is a crime, and it is the living who have betrayed our noble dead, who have robbed their survivors of their due, and who have short changed them... All we have to do is look around at who is rich, who owns the country, who can pervert the course of good government with their money, and who robs the meaning out of nation, divided us, and turned all into cash... The commonwealth should be returned to the common wealth, and taxes are the fairest and most equitable way for that to happen, but even the rich should get the good they pay for from government so long as they do not buy evil for us... Equal rights do not include property rights which destroy political equality and puts justice beyond the reach of government... The thing exists for justice, and almost every other good... The impediments to government going after good, and securing it for us should be removed... We should get the notion from our minds that any nation can achieve good with the support of evil, and if our economy is evil, and if it survives on injustice, then it will destroy the good of the people... And that is what you are seeing, and that is what you are feeling... It is your own corrupted spirit and your own immorality out of which you rebel...

You will easier change human nature than change the nature of money... We have faith in our forms, like governemnt and money... What one values, and finds meaning in, simply because like money it is a symbol of something other; others still will rob meaning out of to turn to wealth... We say the gasoline costs more... Does it??? Is the Gasoline worth more, or is the money worth less... How efficient as a medium of trade will paper dollars be if we have to force foreign people to take them out of the barrel of our guns??? What if they don't want what we are selling and don't want the money to buy it with??? We are attacking the biggest market in the world at the same time that we must buy our oil from them... What sense does that make??? It is losing meaning with those folks by the minute, but they do the same with us...

What meaning will money have when the rich have it all??? What meaning will country have when the rich own it all??? What meaning will government have when the rich own it all??? What meaning will nation have when we are divided so that we can be controled, defeated by the rich in detail, so we can see in our neighbors our enemies, and hate them to the final fiber of our being???

History is the story of changing forms, and forms like money, and even religion are changed at times when robbed of meaning, and even that is natural and inevitable, that people turn every situation tot heir advantage, and after generation the advantage all in private hands with the benefits of the form means that people lose faith, and without faith the social form crumbles and people start over... To form new relationships outside of government and religion and economy are all revolutionary actions...

It's cool for Obama democrats to hate the rich... idiots.

How many of you have gotten a job from a poor person?

i've got no problem with rich folks, if i was one i'd gladly pay the taxes asked of me

Right up until you're the only one paying taxes to support lazy liberals that vote in such a way as to dictate how you can prosper or not.

Figure it out ... The richest two percent own 90% of the country... The whole people must defend their rights and their property which they will not even pay to have done for themselves... I know they can convince fools that all their money goes to support the poor... This is a commonwealth... It does not matter how much of the commonwealth is put in private hands or for what reason... The country must still support its population, and now the population that is allowed to work must support itself, the poor, the government and the rich... So yes; the rich should support the country, and that was the terms under which the constitution was first accepted... Even the income tax was sold as a way to get the rich to pay their share, and they have loaded it onto the backs of labor... Let them pay up or get the hell out...There are no free rides no more

As if the minimum, bullshit imitation democracy we have now is not our right, and a whole bunch more...

A special thanks goes to Obama and his democrats.

How many drinks did you have for lunch?

Faith in our system of money is misplaced and it is a staggeringly costly misplacement of faith. You might want to actually read that book i linked to. There's actually a free version of the thing in html format online somewhere or other.

Another good one is "The Creature from Jekyll Island" by G. Edward Griffin.

And btw, Fido... the income tax was illegally established considering a majority of the states who supposedly ratified it had either edited the legislation or did not follow their own State Constitution to vote upon it, therefore making their vote null and void.

Wouldn't it be great if that were true... Extraconstitutional changes like parties and limits on the number of US representatives to a fraction of what they should be have nearly wrecked the democracy... Wealth was supposed to pay its share to defend its privilages... Taxing those without wealth is only a redistribution of wealth to the rich...

My point is that it's easy to state in theory what you want, but it not easy in reality to define a system that gets you (and everyone else) what you want.

The system we have now was a carefully defined set of rules intended to give most people what they wanted, but it evolved into what we have now.