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Absolute truth?

 
 
Chights47
 
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Reply Mon 20 Jun, 2011 07:36 am
@JPLosman0711,
According to you I don't see anything. Language is nothing so the nothing that is nothing, is nothing (which would normally read out to: the 'words', that are 'on this page' are nothing). Of course since everything is nothing, then there's no point in you even attempting to do whatever it is you're doing (for us it's called communicating). You say that what you see is what you get and all I see is nothing since that's exactly what you're saying. Generally, in a realistic sense, when someone's talking about "nothing" it's an expression for something that isn't really important and is something that isn't worthy of our attention.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 20 Jun, 2011 10:27 am
@Chights47,
I believe you now have i t>
Chights47
 
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Reply Mon 20 Jun, 2011 11:45 am
@cicerone imposter,
The idea kinda of makes sense with how I rationalize it but he keeps taking it too far and brings it into a very literal sense...which is stupid. You can't convey the idea of nothing without bringing it into the realm of something, which is then interpreted differently by each person. That's just how it is, you can't convey anything without some form of communication whether verbal, body language, gestures, etc...which I don't think that he quite understands, or he does and is just being a dumb troll...either way, it's to be disregarded in it's present state.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 20 Jun, 2011 11:49 am
@Chights47,
The fact that we are able to communicate information through language proves existence is beyond "nothing."
Chights47
 
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Reply Mon 20 Jun, 2011 12:01 pm
@cicerone imposter,
What's the difference between a person that is braindead from a regular household plant from either perspective?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 20 Jun, 2011 12:09 pm
@Chights47,
Now, that's identical! LOL
Chights47
 
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Reply Mon 20 Jun, 2011 02:06 pm
@cicerone imposter,
How is it identical though?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 20 Jun, 2011 02:12 pm
@Chights47,
It's both alive, but lack brains.
Chights47
 
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Reply Mon 20 Jun, 2011 02:40 pm
@cicerone imposter,
The concept I'm aiming for behind all of this which is also along the lines that JPLosman is going on, is that all of our sentience and logic divide us and seperate us from that peace and "oneness". We think that we are different, so we are, but if we don't think that way, then we aren't.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 20 Jun, 2011 04:55 pm
@Chights47,
Sorry; I get lost beyond some simple concepts of what we consider our reality. If we have birth, there will be death. In between those two events, we have what is considered "life." Some die at infancy, and some live to be over 100 years old. All life is different to the extent that we all have different genes and environment that influences how we live our life. We all have different levels of freedom, and how we wish to take advantage of those freedoms. Government and politics has great influence on our lives, but that's more an accident of birth. Otherwise, there isn't much we can do depending on opportunities available to us, and what advantages we take to maximize our life's goals.

All the choices we make are subjective.

Dasein
 
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Reply Mon 20 Jun, 2011 05:49 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
If we have birth, there will be death.
Minor course correction, CI. The moment you were born you were already dead. You just don't know when it's going to happen so you may as well as live your life as if you are going to die in the next instant, because you could.

Get all of your relationships in order. Make sure you tell them that you love them.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 20 Jun, 2011 05:56 pm
@Dasein,
If you're dead, what are you doing posting on a2k? LOL
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Mon 20 Jun, 2011 05:58 pm
@cicerone imposter,
...if whatever is alive is dead, then there´s no need to consider it dead or anything at all...

...anyway "dead" and "alive" are poor words...
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Chights47
 
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Reply Mon 20 Jun, 2011 06:00 pm
@Dasein,
From a technical point of view, you're actually wrong. You are obviously alive now (or at least at the time you were writing the post) and it is, of course, a time after which you were born. No one can predict their death unless they cause it (aka suicide). You can live, of course, live like there's no tomorrow which is more of a philosophy on life rather than the technical aspect of "living". You implied that you should get all of your relationships in order and make sure to tell them that you love them. All of that would have to be done while you are living in a technical sense, they of course would have to be alive in a technical sense as well unless you are going to say it to a deceased loved one just for your own sake.
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Mon 20 Jun, 2011 06:03 pm
@Chights47,
...that was not his point...anyway he still is wrong even considering what he meant you did n´t get to understand...
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 20 Jun, 2011 06:07 pm
@Chights47,
It seems they love to live in the world of nonsense. They're dead - but alive to post their nonsense.
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Mon 20 Jun, 2011 06:14 pm
@cicerone imposter,
was this sentence "alive" in you when you wrote it, when I read it, or only because it makes sense and is able to be read today yesterday or tomorrow by anyone ???

Eternally "alive" or eternally "dead" are perspective bearers...

(that´s why he is wrong but you also not correct)
(...but lets just say that the reason why you don´t have a clue on what he is talking about is the very same reason on why he does n´t have a clue on what I usually am talking about...English aside...life is a bitch...lol)
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 20 Jun, 2011 06:25 pm
@Fil Albuquerque,
You are welcome to play with the English language as much as you please, but most understand the common meaning of alive and dead.
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Mon 20 Jun, 2011 06:30 pm
@cicerone imposter,
ohhhhh...leave the common meaning in the pocket Cic...
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 20 Jun, 2011 06:38 pm
@Fil Albuquerque,
Seems that's what you do; leave it in your pocket, and forget their true meaning.
 

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