Absolute truth?

@guigus,

Thanks. As for rational, rigorous framework, we have to say that such a thing doesn't exist for life totally. There is no such certainty about it. It is a mix of both, in physical and metaphysical sense. If we try to bring life into such a rigorous framework, it will no longer be life. That is the reason we see a changing truth in physical sphere. Please have a nice day!!

Vijay

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@Vijay Karippil,

Vijay Karippil wrote:

Thanks. As for rational, rigorous framework, we have to say that such a thing doesn't exist for life totally. There is no such certainty about it. It is a mix of both, in physical and metaphysical sense. If we try to bring life into such a rigorous framework, it will no longer be life. That is the reason we see a changing truth in physical sphere. Please have a nice day!!

Vijay

Can you rigorously prove what you are saying?

I guess you cannot (given the lack of a rigorous framework allowing you to), so where does your certainty come from?

(In other words, you assert there is no rigorous framework as if you had one vouching for what you say---and since you have none, I will not take whatever you say that seriously.)

By the way, have a nice day too.

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a theory that cant be proven otherwise is true, by default.
if it cant be proven true, then it is not necessarily false.

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@hamilton,

Are you saying that anything that I can imagine is true by default if it can not be proven otherwise?

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@hamilton,

That's honestly stupid, if something can't be proven either right or wrong is only plausible.

For the purpose of this example, I will assume that your statement is true so that you may see the foolishness of the statement. I could claim that I've come into contact with a great and powerful beast that told me that it had created the entire universe. It looked like a combination of a rainbow, mixed with a dragon, a griffon, a snake, and a zebra. The mystical beast both transparent and solid at the same time and spoke within my mind and it's voice was like a choir of angels. It told me that I had to show everyone the truth behind it's words. The proof that he gave me was magical pee, that you could only see, if you truly believe...and you're saying that it's all true because there's nothing that can disprove that claim.

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@Chights47,

Only if the pee is yellow would I believe it. LOL

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@cicerone imposter,

It's a rainbow...so it has yellow in it?

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@Chights47,

And the pot of gold at one end?

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@cicerone imposter,

There is, but just at one end, and it's not the front end... (sorry for the late response).

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@Chights47,

Since you're such a cute dog, I can forgive you. Mr. Green

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@cicerone imposter,

uhhh...stranger danger? The pup in this pic is just a little girl mister.

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@Chights47,

My apologies.

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@cicerone imposter,

It's ok, I updated it to my gay son...he likes the attention. Wink

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@Chights47,

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That's honestly stupid, if something can't be proven either right or wrong is only plausible.

Wrong. You look for 'proof' when you want to flee in the face of your potentiality-for-being-a-whole and then 'arrest' whoever could not provide it to you and conceptualize the remainder 'plausible'.

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For the purpose of this example, I will assume that your statement is true so that you may see the foolishness of the statement. I could claim that I've come into contact with a great and powerful beast that told me that it had created the entire universe. It looked like a combination of a rainbow, mixed with a dragon, a griffon, a snake, and a zebra. The mystical beast both transparent and solid at the same time and spoke within my mind and it's voice was like a choir of angels. It told me that I had to show everyone the truth behind it's words. The proof that he gave me was magical pee, that you could only see, if you truly believe...and you're saying that it's all true because there's nothing that can disprove that claim.

This is a whole bunch of confusion and 'arresting' of someone else to hide that fact that you don't know what you're talking about.

'Foolishness' is a concept you use to put down someone else to hide your lack-of-knowing. Hypathetical situations are not only a waste of time but also have nothing to do with 'living', interesting how the word 'pathetic' is located somewhere in there.

Instead of looking outside of you and 'grabbing' certain impossibilities that 'could' play out to be a possibility in order to prove a point. Why not look inside of 'you' and see what's there? Why not take a look at what shows itself in itself?

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@JPLosman0711,

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This is a whole bunch of confusion and 'arresting' of someone else to hide that fact that you don't know what you're talking about.

Not trying to put you down or poke fun at other people but I was not confused in what he said and I see it somewhat the same way he does!

I find value in Hypothetical situations because they are not always a waste of time when they have something to do with 'living' when used to illustrate logic.

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@reasoning logic,

You see it the way you see it, you can't see 'it somewhat the same way he does.'

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I find value in Hypothetical situations because they are not always a waste of time when they have something to do with 'living' when used to illustrate logic.

'Logic' is a concept that came from living, most importantly, it is NOT living. It is merely a representation, a safe haven for all who believe and accept it.

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@JPLosman0711,

Good point! Most do not live with "logic" as their guiding principle for living.

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@cicerone imposter,

There really is no 'logic', nor is there anyway to 'live with it as a guiding principle for living'.

You are already whole and perfect, living as who you are without these phony definitions.

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@JPLosman0711,

When I use the words somewhat like he sees it, I am meaning closely or similar to how he sees it!
Why do I suspect that you knew what I meant but are not happy with my reply?

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Logic' is a concept that came from living, most importantly, it is NOT living. It is merely a representation, a safe haven for all who believe and accept it.

Do you accept or reject this safe haven you call logic?
Is there anything better than logic when you do not know the empirical answer to the question at hand?

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@JPLosman0711,

I disagree; there is logic in how sentences and ideas are constructed. It is the science of correct reasoning.

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