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Absolute truth?

 
 
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 05:38 pm
@north,
Yes
north
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 05:43 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:

Yes


thank you common sense still reins

hence an absolute truth is proven
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 05:46 pm
@north,
...what what ? Wink
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 05:47 pm
@north,
You may be correct but I do have a question for you though!

Do you think that there could possibly be something that you consider to be an absolute truth now that could be proven to be incorrect 10,000 years from now?
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 05:49 pm
@reasoning logic,
...your hypothesizing does n´t have anything to do with it...besides nowadays you could well reduce the number to 5 years...
north
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 05:51 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:

You may be correct but I do have a question for you though!

Do you think that there could possibly be something that you consider to be an absolute truth now that could be proven to be incorrect 10,000 years from now?


such as ?
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 05:51 pm
@Fil Albuquerque,
Are we not all hypothesizing or do we know empirical truth when we see it?
north
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 05:53 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:

Are we not all hypothesizing or do we know empirical truth when we see it?


there is NO hypothesizing about the sun's importance to life , it is an absolute truth
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 05:54 pm
@north,
How about any and all things that you think are empirical {absolutes} Could there be possibly any that may be wrong?
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 05:58 pm
@north,
Again I agree! { importance } is the only word that I would step out into a leap of faith for
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Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 05:58 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:

Are we not all hypothesizing or do we know empirical truth when we see it?


Yes but our hypothesizing does n´t make any truth less or more truthful then it already is...the classic distinction between knowing and being ! That which is still is even if you don´t know nothing about it !
north
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 05:58 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:

How about any and all things that you think are empirical {absolutes} Could there be possibly any that may be wrong?


such as ?
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 06:01 pm
@Fil Albuquerque,
That seems logical! I just think that there could be a possibility of me getting it wrong at times!

Does this possibility exist with either of you?
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 06:04 pm
@reasoning logic,
I mostly get it wrong always...I just try to not be so bluntly wrong as most ! Wink
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 06:04 pm
@north,
Do you really think that I would know all things that you think are empirical? Really?

Why would you ask such a question?
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 06:05 pm
@Fil Albuquerque,
That is fair enough!
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guigus
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 07:40 pm
@north,
north wrote:

reasoning logic wrote:

Are we not all hypothesizing or do we know empirical truth when we see it?


there is NO hypothesizing about the sun's importance to life , it is an absolute truth


Modern philosophy begins with Descartes doubting everything, beginning with what we see -- Cartesian hyperbolic doubt. Did you ever read Descartes?
JLNobody
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 09:49 pm
@guigus,
Decartes did not doubt everything. He retained a major tacit presupposition of his culture: i.e., that there is a SELF or agent of thought, perception and action, that self who, because HE (the self) thought, ergo necessarily exists (cogito ergo sum). Actually he only saw--in the sense of radical empiricism--thinking, not a self who was thinking. He THOUGHT there was a self/agent/ or subject of thought.
When I look I see thinking, seeing, therefore there is only thinking or seeing, not an agent of thought and perception--despite the fact that my grammar compels me to say to you here that "When 'I" look....
I AM experience, not the recepient of experience.
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 10:44 pm
@JLNobody,
The very experience itself is a receptacle...it takes shape and pattern !
The way you said it you correct a mistake with another one...
JLNobody
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 11:01 pm
@Fil Albuquerque,
And you add a third?
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