Absolute truth?

You mean: I feel certain that there is no "absolute" truth?
I personally feel that there is no absolute anything. All is relative.

A repeat from the thread on nihilism:
I feel that everything we come up with as explanations of Reality is delusional--insofar as it is "human knowledge", not absolutely objective truth that could exist in our absence. But we can describe human experience, or human reality, and come up with explanations that WORK, at least for a duration--and then, hopefullly, they will be replaced with other effective explanations for human needs (applied science) and answers to human questions (basic science and philosophy).

We all live with subjective truth. Our subjective judgements about what we perceive cannot be established as absolute truth, but we make our best guess as to what we believe to be true.

I believe the sun will rise tomorrow morning. I can believe that with high confidence, but that's because I'm relying on what I have observed in my past.

I believe that science describes my environment as is humanly possible to be accurate, and it's the only human endeavor that continues to correct itself with more knowledge.

It's a matter of our perception on what we deem to be close to the truth based on our learning and observations, but they are still subjective.

With that consideration in mind, I have sometimes thought of classical physics as a science of human reality. It is the study of reality as we percieve it.

Yes, Cryacuz. Everything we do is ultimately "human". Justification for radical humanism.
C.I. you seem to conflate certainty with absolute truth. I think of certainty as a state of mind. There are, of course, "objective" standards by which we support our feeling of certitude: logic, levels of P, experimental rules. But our confidence in such "rules" of truth or canons of evidence are also little more than publically shared feelings of certainty.

I had to throw in the idea of absolute truth, because it's the topic of this thread. My attempts to explain it is the failure.

Admirable insight.

I do not think that your attempts to explain it is the failure, but rather the best job so far!

As we talked about earlier, failure is the road to success. You are more likely to get it right if you are not afraid to try and maybe fail

Yes, I've had experience with that! I did something that pleased my boss in Chicago, but it was not exactly the smartest thing I've ever done. It took a bit of naive guts to do what I did, but it turned out well for me. Don't ask me what it was, because I'll never spill the beans on such a personal embarrassment.

I learned a great lesson early in my career; think out of the box.

Hehe, I'll take your word for it.

But I find that "the box" is alot like the universe. If you try to think outside it, it expands to fit your thoughs...

Thinking out of the box means to be creative in how you work. Find ways to be more productive.

Early in my work career, I worked very long hours to show my productivity was above average. It got me promotions and higher pay. After I worked in management positions for many years, I learned that being productive gave me more leisure time to enjoy life.

I used that in my consulting business, and earned good money by creating ways to produce more with less hours of work.

The money was good, and was able to buy income property.

It worked well for me, but I think the work environment has changed a great deal since I retired in 1998.

What I mean to say is that if you solve a problem once by thinking new, you are thinking outside the box. But if you use that same line of thinking over again you are not thinking outside the box. Your box just got bigger..

I don't disagree with that; some people like Steve Jobs has that ability, and look at where its taken him.

If you say that "there is no absolute truth," then you are saying that this very assertion is not absolutely true, which falsifies it. On the other hand, if you say that "every truth is relative," then this happens to be an absolute truth, which again falsifies your assertion.

Yes. Also, most artists who have succesful careers seem to have the ability to constantly renew themselves.

correct...
...to be, is to be absolute ! (does n´t matter what "to be" stands for)

Yes, and in a sense when you expand your mind you expand the world, because in that sense you are the world.

I live by the sea, and there is a place I like to visit where I can see the horizon to the west. I like looking towards it, and sometimes I think about how that is my horizon.

Cyracuz, Do you know how far into the sea you can really see from ground level to the horizon?

The view may be beautiful, but don't expect too much in the way of distance.

Just teasing.