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How Hitler Lost the War

 
 
Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 23 Sep, 2010 04:42 am
@BillRM,
Listen, Bubba, the V-1s hit London, which was a much smaller target than the invasion fleet and the beaches. Suppose the Ninth Army Air Force and RAF fighter command did go after the V-1s had they attacked the invasion area? That would have been a significant diversion of resoruce which otherwise would be providing close air support to the infantry or attempting interdiction on reinforcements trying to reach the German line in Normandy. And that would still have been militarily more useful than attempting to spread terror among the civilian population of London--something at which Hitler had already failed. You really have no sense of what is being discussed herre, as well as lacking a sense of proportion.

Your understanding of military matters is even more simplistic and shallow than Hitler's was. You're indulging a straw man argument. I didn't say or even suggest that the V-1s could have "stopped the invasion." I was pointing out that they could have had a legitimate military use, but throwing them at London was not a legitimate military use.
BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 23 Sep, 2010 04:57 am
@Setanta,
Quote:
Your understanding of military matters is even more simplistic and shallow than Hitler's was. You're indulging a straw man argument. I didn't say or even suggest that the V-1s could have "stopped the invasion." I was pointing out that they could have had a legitimate military use, but throwing them at London was not a legitimate military use.


So all the cities areas bombings in WW2 had no military use is that you opinion?

Side note you did indeed stated that V-1 could not be stop.
Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 23 Sep, 2010 05:10 am
@BillRM,
You're addicted to straw men. At no time did i state or imply that the bombing of cities had no use. I pointed out that terror bombing did not acheive its goal. Try to pay attention, and learn to understand plain English.

You really can't see the forest for the trees. Your obsessed with irrelevant technical details about the V weapons, instead of understanding the issue of military relevance of the use of the weapons. Yeah, i made a comment about the V-1, and i provided my source for that comment. Take it up with him.

In the meantime, make an effort to understand the central issue, which is that Hitler routinely squandered military resources attempting to attain goals which were not only unattainable (such as knocking England out of the war by the use of terror weapons), or at which he had already failed (such as knocking Englad out of the war by the use of terror weapons). My remarks were a part of a whole, too, Bill. Hitler delayed the deployment of the jet fighter because he wanted it turned into a bomber. He insisted that major resources be expended on bombers to prosecute a failed campaign of terror against his enemies.

Bill . . . forest . . . trees. Learn to tell them apart.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 23 Sep, 2010 05:41 am
For anyone interested in an excellent policy study on strategic bombing, and capable of understanding what they read, i recommend Decision over Schweinfurt: The U. S. 8th Air Force Battle for Daylight Bombing, Thomas Coffey, David McKay Company, 1977. For a look at the fighters attempting to defend Germany, i recommend The First and the Last, Adolf Galland, which is available in English from the Cerebrus Press, 1998.

Essentially, the area bombing of London at night, as well as the area bombing of Hamburg and Dusseldorf at night, were, whatever the alleged intent, terror attacks and retaliatory attacks. They contributed very little to either nation's war effort for the huge amounts of resources used. The daylight bombing by the Eighth United States Army Air Force, especially after the P51 was available to escort the bombers, was a very effective use of military resources. Kesselring's daylight attacks on the airfields of southern England and the Supermarine and Hawker factories in the late summer of 1940 were an intelligent and effective use of the Luftwaffe resources available to him.
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hitler
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jan, 2011 12:17 am
@Setanta,
Hitler's ideology represents some incontrovertible facts- the great nation binding spirit,the true essence of nationalism and socialism.He accomplished his duty by achieving the pride of the fatherland which it lost in the first world war.

ACCEPT THE ETERNAL TRUTH,FUNDAMENTALS OF NATURE,EARTH AND HEAVEN THROUGH HITLER'S SUPREMACY.
Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jan, 2011 04:05 am
@hitler,
Idiot.

Nazi idiot.
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talk72000
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jan, 2011 02:18 pm
@hitler,
Did someone resurrect you? Maybe Charlie Chaoplin is next.
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snj
 
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Reply Tue 2 Jul, 2013 12:02 am
@talk72000,
Hitler lost the war because of the shooting of the u boats.
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