IS THE "TEA PARTY" REALLY A POPULIST MOVEMENT?

They will therefore, apparently, lack the organization to effectively push an agenda in politics.

Cool!

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@hawkeye10,

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The Tea Party runs off the grid, and it runs by people linking to other people with out any top down organization, which is why it is difficult to either attack it, control it, or monitor it.

But, you've overlooked the fact that Murdoch, via Fox News, has given what would most likely have remained a small, ineffectual crank wing of the Republican Party, massive exposure. Say nothing of a "legitimacy" which I seriously doubt would have existed otherwise. I have to ask myself what, exactly, is in this for Murdoch? Why would he think destabilizing Obama (say nothing of the more moderate elements of the Republican Party) be in his interests? He generally has his own reasons, when his powerful, world-wide networks do such things. This is nothing new. Wink

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birthers.

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@dyslexia,

Could you expand a bit on that, dys? (For someone who is far, far way from the US? Wink

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@msolga,

birthers, the wing-nuts and significant element of the tea party crowd. birthers= Obama is not a citizen, was not born in the USA.

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@msolga,

I'll take that one. There is a pesistent online myth to the effect that Mr. Obama's birth certificate from Hawaii is a fake, and that therefore, not being native to the United States, he is not eligible for the office of President.

The loons who adhere to this fantasy are known as "birthers."

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@dyslexia,

Oh those people!
Are they still at it?
I would have thought they would have run out of puff & lost all credibility by now? Not so?

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@Setanta,

Thanks,too, Setanta.

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Never underestimate the power of willful self-deception. We have not had a truly liberal President since Carter left office in January, 1981. Slick Willy Clinton doesn't count because he was essentially a conservative Democrat. So these jokers are howling. Those under 30 have never known anyone remotely liberal in the White House. In their desparation, i guess they dream that the "birther" legend will be proven, and Mr. Obama removed from office.

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@Setanta,

Right. I see.
They are still at it, then.
They're responding to the socialist take-over! Wink

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I went to dinner last week with Mr B, a friend, and a friend of the friend. FotF was a bit animated about his disdain for the current political reality of the United States. He stated that he was active in the Tea Party Movement and that "heads were going to roll, and change was going to come" to Washington. He was the kind of person who sucked all of the oxygen out of the room, if you know what I mean. Our friend went one-on-one with him most of the night, arguing his point, but mostly just trying to change the subject away from politics. FotF wasn't having it - he was in full passion and he had plenty to say.

I don't remember exactly what triggered it, but all of a sudden he was ranting about Obama being unqualified for office because he couldn't produce a valid birth certificate. I hadn't said much all evening (shocking, I know), but I blurted out, "You're a Birther!?!?!?" By this time we were in a bar for a nightcap and the bartender got involved in the conversation too. It was pretty hilarious. The short answer is, yes, they're still at it.

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@JPB,

Very frightening times you folk live in, JPB.
I mean that. This is very scary stuff indeed. How do you fight back against such willful ignorance? (Assuming such beliefs are wide-spread)
I'm not asking for an answer. Just commenting.

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@msolga,

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Right. I see.
They are still at it, then.
They're responding to the socialist take-over!

wells yes that's an element but in my opinion the "birther" thing is simple racism camouflaged.

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@msolga,

That's the spirit, Miss Olga . . . the wolf is at the door and the Commies have taken over the White House ! ! !

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@dyslexia,

I agree . . . they cast slurs at his father and his Kenyan grandmother, and they play up the middle name, too. They get to hate him for being Africa and being (as they see it) a crypto-Muslim.

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@Setanta,

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. . . the wolf is at the door and the Commies have taken over the White House ! ! !

But a black commie president & secret Muslim at that!
My god, all the evils imaginable present in just one person! Smile

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They could hardly ask for more, eh?

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@JPB,

BREAKING NEWS IN DELAWARE

Chris O'Donnell, the teaparty GOP Candidate , has already begun to erode her support base by being caught in several baldface lies about her finances, her schooling (she claims an education from OXFORD) It turns out that, while she was at Farleigh Dickinson, she applied for a self funded trip to take a seminar at an Oxford College. This, while she was already being dunned for her failure to pay her school bills at FD.

Shes also come out defending her view on teaching ID in science classes at public school.(Meanwhile, she is an avowed Creationist-which has kinda pissed off the Science teachers of the state of Delaware)

Turns out that Mike CAstle has decided to run as a write in candidate,seems he was drafted by the GOP and several of the "BlueDOG DEMS"

May we live in interesting times.

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@hawkeye10,

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2. I hear alot of you attacking the mainstream media. Isn't Fox News a mainstream media outlet? I mean, they're the most trusted name in news, aren't they? So tell me, what do you mean by "mainstream media"?

I am not a teapartyer but I will take this one...Mainstream media is ANY corporate owned and controlled media, to include Fox. The Tea Party relies on the internet, mostly Blogs and email push, for much of its news. There has been a couple of studies on what the tea party crowd is using, but I dont know where they are on the net off hand.

The Tea Party runs off the grid, and it runs by people linking to other people with out any top down organization, which is why it is difficult to either attack it, control it, or monitor it.

Wow. You're really trying to tell us that people in the tea party movement don't watch Fox News? I guess Sarah Palin is telling the tea party candidates to campaign through Fox News just for fun then. And I guess the fact that the original tea parties which were not only reported on but actively promoted by Fox News is just a silly coincidence.

Maybe you should stop spreading misinformation. But look who I'm talking to. It's like asking the rain not to be so wet.

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@kickycan,

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Wow. You're really trying to tell us that people in the tea party movement don't watch Fox News?

No, that was not your question, you asked what is considered mainstream media. When they are watching mainstream media it is a good bet that they are watching Fox, but the internet is increasingly the place to go for news, for all demographics but the elderly. I for instance spent many years as a cable news junkie, but now I pretty much only watch Mad Men.

The Tea Party is an internet social network based political group, once you grasp that you will find the rest easier to understand.

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