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How old is old enough to be home alone?

 
 
Caroline
 
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Reply Sun 8 Aug, 2010 07:09 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:
I certainly was not the only kid in the naborhood with guns.
Thay had more than I did; at the beginning, anyway.
Caroline wrote:
Christ kids with guns, I cant get over it.
OmSigDAVID wrote:
We practiced at the YMCA. Schools had competitive rifle teams.
This shows respect towards guns.
OmSigDAVID wrote:
How ofen do we see photographic news coverage of the Middle East,
wherein Moslems, very little above the age of babies, have AK-47s ?
Yet have u ever read of any Moslems of any age accused of
opening up on EACH OTHER?? Thay appear to be well armed
and safe, at least from one another. Yes ?
Yes. Why have the risk anyway, someone could get killed. I like guns in that it's cool to play the wii using a simulated gun, I thrash those zombies I can tell you. What worries me is when the gun is in the hands of an idiot, an irresponsible div that kills innocent people, like your robber for instance, he could've missed and killed you and some people do kill with guns to rob.
OmSigDAVID wrote:
I understand that there was very prevalent freedom
to keep and bear arms among Englishmen until around 1920,
that a gentleman woud take his revolver along with him before leaving home,
the same as he brought along his pocket watch. Yes ?
I have no idea, your history is better than mine.Smile I know he's a right to arm himself, like I said it's the irresponsible that bothers/scares me.
OmSigDAVID wrote:
Incidentally , my grandfather was from a place called Devonshire, England.
Well that is where I was brought up, I don't live there now. Devon is a county in the south of England and I lived in Plymouth, a city in Devon. Well well well, we could be related!Smile But I doubt it. Do you know which part of Devonshire he was from, what town or city? It's beautiful down there and by the sea which I love and miss.




OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 8 Aug, 2010 08:27 am
@Caroline,
OmSigDAVID wrote:
I certainly was not the only kid in the naborhood with guns.
Thay had more than I did; at the beginning, anyway.
Caroline wrote:
Christ kids with guns, I cant get over it.
OmSigDAVID wrote:
We practiced at the YMCA. Schools had competitive rifle teams.
Caroline wrote:
This shows respect towards guns.
OmSigDAVID wrote:
How ofen do we see photographic news coverage of the Middle East,
wherein Moslems, very little above the age of babies, have AK-47s ?
Yet have u ever read of any Moslems of any age accused of
opening up on EACH OTHER?? Thay appear to be well armed
and safe, at least from one another. Yes ?
Caroline wrote:
Yes. Why have the risk anyway, someone could get killed.
Thay r proud to display a fanatical zeal,
even pulling near babies into their army to fight for their religious beliefs.
Maybe thay think thay 'll get extra credit.





Caroline wrote:
I like guns in that it's cool to play the wii using a simulated gun,
I thrash those zombies I can tell you. What worries me is when
the gun is in the hands of an idiot, an irresponsible div that kills
innocent people, like your robber for instance, he could've missed
and killed you and some people do kill with guns to rob.
If criminals are willing to ignore the laws against ROBBERY;
if criminals are willing to disregard the laws against MURDER,
HOW can we convince them to OBAY "gun control" laws ?





OmSigDAVID wrote:
I understand that there was very prevalent freedom
to keep and bear arms among Englishmen until around 1920,
that a gentleman woud take his revolver along with him before leaving home,
the same as he brought along his pocket watch. Yes ?
Caroline wrote:
I have no idea, your history is better than mine.Smile I know he's a right to arm himself,
like I said it's the irresponsible that bothers/scares me.
Well, Arthur Conan Doyle wrote Sherlock Holmes in the 1800s, including accounts
of Holmes & of Dr. Watson thinking nothing of including their revolvers
among their daily equipment. Maybe that 's indicative.



OmSigDAVID wrote:
Incidentally, my grandfather was from a place called Devonshire, England.
Caroline wrote:
Well that is where I was brought up, I don't live there now.
Devon is a county in the south of England and I lived in Plymouth,
a city in Devon. Well well well, we could be related!Smile
Yes; we must be.







Caroline wrote:
But I doubt it. Do you know which part of Devonshire he was from, what town or city?
It's beautiful down there and by the sea which I love and miss.
No; I did not even know that it HAS towns n cities in it.
Someone said that it has good strawberry shortcake in it.





David
Caroline
 
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Reply Sun 8 Aug, 2010 08:45 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

If criminals are willing to ignore the laws against ROBBERY;
if criminals are willing to disregard the laws against MURDER,
HOW can we convince them to OBAY "gun control" laws ?
Well put, can't argue with that except my point wasn't really about criminals disobeying gun laws, my point is the easy access to guns thus criminals kill innocent people with, your robber is an example, we don't hear of things like that happening everyday in the UK, although there is an underground market for guns and my fear is gun crime will be common as in the US.

OmSigDAVID wrote:
Well, Arthur Conan Doyle wrote Sherlock Holmes in the 1800s, including accounts
of Holmes & of Dr. Watson thinking nothing of including their revolvers
among their daily equipment. Maybe that 's indicative.
Indicative of what? Sherlock Holmes is fictional written about thrilling detective stories. My point is not everyone respects guns and innocent victims die everyday, I don't have a problem with guns themselves, it's some of the looneys behind them that scare me. Please don't say shootings are common in the US?

OmSigDAVID wrote:
Incidentally , my grandfather was from a place called Devonshire, England.
Caroline wrote:
Well that is where I was brought up, I don't live there now.
Devon is a county in the south of England and I lived in Plymouth,
a city in Devon. Well well well, we could be related!Smile
OmSigDAVID wrote:
Yes; we must be.
Ok cous' round yours for chrimbo then. Smile

Caroline wrote:
But I doubt it. Do you know which part of Devonshire he was from, what town or city?
It's beautiful down there and by the sea which I love and miss.
No; I did not even know that it HAS towns n cities in it.
OmSigDAVID wrote:
Someone said that it has good strawberry shortcake in it.
Well Devon is famous for it's clotted cream, it's really thick and is often eaten with jam spread on scones, traditional is that. I love it.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 8 Aug, 2010 09:35 am
@Caroline,
OmSigDAVID wrote:
If criminals are willing to ignore the laws against ROBBERY;
if criminals are willing to disregard the laws against MURDER,
HOW can we convince them to OBAY "gun control" laws ?
Caroline wrote:
Well put, can't argue with that except my point wasn't really about criminals disobeying gun laws, my point is the easy access to guns thus criminals kill innocent people with, your robber is an example, we don't hear of things like that happening everyday in the UK, although there is an underground market for guns and my fear is gun crime will be common as in the US.
Guns are like seatbelts; valuable emergency equipment:
if that is not conveniently easy for potential future victims to use,
then thay will not use it, to their detriment: loss of life.

Criminals will be armed as well as thay want to be,
(even in prison).

In America, we have the U.S. Dept. of Labor,
including its Occupational Safety and Health Administraton
(its called O.S.H.A.) whose mission it is to make workplaces safer.
Gun control (i.e., discriminatory licenusure of the right to defend your life)
is O.S.H.A. for violent criminals, protecting them on-the-job
from the defenses of their victims.











OmSigDAVID wrote:
Well, Arthur Conan Doyle wrote Sherlock Holmes in the 1800s, including accounts
of Holmes & of Dr. Watson thinking nothing of including their revolvers
among their daily equipment. Maybe that 's indicative.
Caroline wrote:
Indicative of what? Sherlock Holmes is fictional written about thrilling detective stories.
Indicative of the norm of how gentlemen dressed and prepared to defend themselves
(if necessary) in public in the 1800s and early 1900s.





Caroline wrote:
My point is not everyone respects guns and innocent victims die everyday, I don't have a problem with guns themselves, it's some of the looneys behind them that scare me. Please don't say shootings are common in the US?
Efforts to disarm criminals are effective only in disarming future victims,
thereby giving criminals a better incentive, a fringe benefit.






OmSigDAVID wrote:
Incidentally , my grandfather was from a place called Devonshire, England.
Caroline wrote:
Well that is where I was brought up, I don't live there now.
Devon is a county in the south of England and I lived in Plymouth,
a city in Devon. Well well well, we could be related!Smile
OmSigDAVID wrote:
Yes; we must be.
Ok cous' round yours for chrimbo then. Smile

Caroline wrote:
But I doubt it. Do you know which part of Devonshire he was from, what town or city?
It's beautiful down there and by the sea which I love and miss.
OmSigDAVID wrote:
No; I did not even know that it HAS towns n cities in it.
Someone said that it has good strawberry shortcake in it.
Caroline wrote:
Well Devon is famous for it's clotted cream,
it's really thick and is often eaten with jam spread on scones,
traditional is that. I love it.
Yes; I recognize the name.
I 've never had it. I don 't believe that we have that in America.





David
Caroline
 
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Reply Sun 8 Aug, 2010 10:26 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

Guns are like seatbelts; valuable emergency equipment:
if that is not conveniently easy for potential future victims to use,
then thay will not use it, to their detriment: loss of life.
So are you saying that if I came to the US that I should pack heat to protect myself and make sure I know how to shoot good, fair enough but what about the bullets you don't see coming, when an innocent bystander gets killed in a drive by or a kid just walking to school. You cant say all gun deaths could be prevented if the victim had a gun to shoot back, how about that bullet that came at you, you rely on the shooter not to kill you in a surprise attack, not something I'm comfortable with. You cant arm toddlers and what kind of world would that be if we did arm our babies. Call me naive but the way I see it if no-one had access to guns then no-one would have to arm themselves out of protection, so why have these killing machines?

OmSigDAVID wrote:
In America, we have the U.S. Dept. of Labor,
including its Occupational Safety and Health Administraton
(its called O.S.H.A.) whose mission it is to make workplaces safer.
Gun control (i.e., discriminatory licenusure of the right to defend your life)
is O.S.H.A. for violent criminals, protecting them on-the-job
from the defenses of their victims.
Does it work or are guns easily available to anyone.

OmSigDAVID wrote:
Indicative of the norm of how gentlemen dressed and prepared to defend themselves
(if necessary) in public in the 1800s and early 1900s.
Quite but that was during the victorian times, times were dangerous, stand and deliver and all that, the eradication of guns was to reduce dangerous crimes, we don't have regular shoot outs or a steady flow of innocent deaths by gunshot but we will see what happens in the future, I think guns are a bad idea where people get hurt and stats show the loss of life. I would like to think I don't need a gun and I wouldn't like to live in a violent time where I needed one to outshoot a criminal. Make it harder somehow for crims to get hold off then we might talk but you will always have a black market because money rules over morals.

Caroline wrote:
My point is not everyone respects guns and innocent victims die everyday, I don't have a problem with guns themselves, it's some of the looneys behind them that scare me. Please don't say shootings are common in the US?
OmSigDAVID wrote:
Efforts to disarm criminals are effective only in disarming future victims,
thereby giving criminals a better incentive, a fringe benefit.
I'm very tired, I'm sorry I'm missing your point would you mind explaining what that means please?

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Yes; I recognize the name.
I 've never had it. I don 't believe that we have that in America.
I would send you some but it'd probably go off by the time it arrived. It's scrummy.
Btw I don't know much about these things I am here to learn.
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chaz2011
 
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Reply Sat 8 Jan, 2011 09:10 am
@OmSigDAVID,
i used to live in plymouth lost all contacts, ne guns 4 sale deadly serious
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jan, 2011 06:41 am
@chaz2011,
chaz2011 wrote:
i used to live in plymouth lost all contacts, ne guns 4 sale deadly serious
Yes, indeed! To be gunless when u need one can be very embarrassing;
lethally embarrassing.
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