The Giant Door

God Delusion by Richard Dawkins

I don't think that is exactly true because science can be wrong at times. I am surprised to hear Neil say that.

u choose u and ur objective ground, which to me is nonsense, the only absolute certainty to urself cant b chosen

i choose rights and the best which prove a bit that i get a head even if it doesnt sound cool to ur nasal breath

Science like... an apple falls to the earth when not acted upon by another force and the earth is round? Not because some voice in your head told you so or because it is written in the 'holy books' but because careful measurements, analysis and observation are corroborated by many forms of evidence... Whether if you believe it or not... It is the earth's own gravity and not because of some delusional idea that God wills it every time...

Yes these two observations of gravity and the round earth could be wrong but I would not spend much effort trying to prove contrary. Why? Because they have been examined carefully by science and not by blind obedient speculation... And yes, science gave us this understanding while religions hung on stubbornly to their holy books devoid of even simple truths. In hindsight all of these barbaric religions were clearly impotent of truth.

You can travel around the globe hundreds of times and maybe one time it will become flat but don't hold your breath waiting for it happen. History records that because Columbus, though he had many terrible character flaws, doubted the speculators he was led through the giant door to a new world...

Science tries to remain within the realm of what is measurable, what is immeasurable is again merely speculation. People need to recognize when they are relying on speculation and not science and devalue that speculation accordingly... As, speculation, faith, fervent religiosity, fairy tales, myths, dogma, social standards based upon folklore and old wives tales, devotional parables, clerical cogitation, hunches put forth as gospel because they are from the holy book, fervent conjecture etc... And let's not forget God doesn't like it if you tie your camel on a holy day... Just let the camel run off and spend two days finding them later...

Is it too great a thing for God to reveal him/herself to science? We are all eyes and ears...

To err is to equate science with speculation... When speculation usurps science then rampant error built upon error becomes 'truth' and how dare we disagree with God?

What is the foundation of truth? Imagination/revelation and blind obedience or careful and tedious analysis and observation? God supposedly tells a devout servant in their head or a holy person dictates it for them to jump off a cliff so, there they go! The speculation of virgins at the bottom gave them wings? No, they fell like a led balloon, more speculation... How do we know God did not take them to heaven? Well we go down to the bottom and there is their dead body crumbled and broken. Heaven is just another hunch like the one that caused them to jump... And many tales tell of people returning from the grave but where are they now if this is really truth? Would a miracle of the almighty not be everlasting?

Science tosses a stone first... Science puts application before subjugation...

This gives science a creditably that absent from faith...

So a person can pray for a healing when they or loved ones become ill but most people will take their chances with the medical profession... Yet they are quick to subjugate others to their fantasy deity... They are not always right but MUCH more so than relying on solely the miraculous faith healers, hookie pooks and fortune tellers for a magic trick and slight of the mind...

We are eye witnesses of the benefits of science and modern technology but we have only hearsay when it comes to religions. Religion is a fading mirage... It is a matter of perspective and true intelligence is giving weight to the perspective that is more clearly in focus versus the one that is perhaps errant anorexic superstition at best...

Religion and science are not a dichotomy, religion is a parasite that feeds off of science in order to mutate and infest its mental illness upon humanity for another day...

You choose insult, one of the lowest forms of discourse...

How can you prove gravity? What are you going to do "drop an apple or something? You can not prove gravity, "it could be the angles from heaven pushing down on it.
Just kidding Rex, Like always you have a very good reply.

It is called the preponderance of evidence... all physical bodies are subjected to the exact same force in proportion to mass and elemental composition...

If that were not the case the earth would spiral out of orbit and the mars lander would have missed its target... This is why it is called the law of universal gravitation... It even works on Sundays days when God is resting...

Scientific Errors in the Qur'an
http://www.wikiislam.net/wiki/Scientific_Errors_in_the_Qur'an

Qur'an 96:15-16 Let him beware! If he desist not, We will drag him by the forelock. A lying, sinful forehead.

According to the Qur'an people use the forehead to lie...

...and the middle finger to tell people off...

Is this door big enough?

IT SURE IS!

this is the point, ur use of words to increase what u got already, useless presence for perversions pleasures

the point is what choice is always absolute else, u cant choose what is there already nor anything related directly to urself, funny how u talk about gravity and facts

Gravity is truth, evolution is truth, religion is facts perversely twisted to seem like truth...

gravity is not constant while evolution is negative constant results, which prove how u have no idea about words u use but dare call it truth

it is not for nothing that philosophy is exclusively from questionning, u r clearly a religious type while u spit on it

Once again you use distorted facts calling gravity not constant and calling evolution negative. Evolution is not negative, consider all of the medicinal herbs and even mutation has facilitated evolution in positive ways over millions of years and gravity over many billions of years.

All so you can exalt your repressive god who is zero constant, no more real then ESP, fortune tellers, and circus clowns... purely abstract in other words, not true to life... wishful, hopeful but fanciful and unrealistic... And you compare gravity with those farces? Even light is more constant as it travels billions of light years though space... While prayers are only psychological illusions.

Even if you face east and pray till you are blue in the face it does not work... all to placate a wasted life.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/05/15/study-concludes-intercessory-prayer-doesnt-work-christians-twist-the-results/

The only religious constants are the delusions you call truth...

No matter who your God is they are deaf and inept to your whaling, moaning and cries for help. The only help we have is what we do ourselves do to improve our standards of life and care giving. Science and medicine are constants with measurable effects and measurable results but prayers are even less reliable than doing nothing at all.

When prayers don't work the loving religionists say well God must have found fault with you and decided not to help.. How insane and heartless. Doctors persevere while the faithful point fingers and blame sin rather than physical aliments...

Now twist those truths that into another religious fiction...